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I'm gonna compare 'cause why not? I feel like rambling today :3
The ergo decedo argument doesn't really hold up given Nintendo are using a predatory seasons' pass system.
I mean, Sakurai literally said "Only buy the pass unless you're SUPER confident."
Sakurai's comments about the fighters passes were in passing and only in that one direct - the warning was likely given less screen time than even Wii Fit's eyes and would be easy to forget or get drowned out by hype for a sugar-rushed Nintendo fan who just saw "5 newcomers!". If Nintendo (not Sakurai, Nintendo) didn't intend the fighters' passes as a way of pushing new IPs and tricking people into buying more than they want, the warning would've been much more major in the marketing. FP2's eShop description does not have a disclaimer for example.
I'm not saying you have no right to dislike the characters, because by all means, you do you, everyone's open to their own opinion.
Considering I just happen to like Smash and don't really care what new characters end up in the game as long as they are fun (and yes, I think every dlc fighter thus far is fun) it doesn't seem that bad to me. Also, are we forgetting that Sakurai explicitly stated "don't buy the whole pass unless you're sure you're going to like everyone?"
I never even implied I actually brought the passes, though I did do so, so your argument is valid in this case - however, I was 16 when the first fighters' pass rolled out, I've matured since then. This was pre-3D All-Stars and pre-Doug Bowser so Nintendo were way better at hiding their capitalistic evil and were much more trusted. Also, as I said, Sakurai said his comments about trusting that you'll like everyone in passing. There was 16 seconds of screentime given to the warning, immediately after the reveal of 5 new fighters (you know, something that will result in Smash fans or the streamers they watch screaming in banshees) and the wording has very vague - "Only those who are confident in its value" could mean anything - price, quality, so on.
But again, you bought the pass.
are good in concept, but they leave a bit to be desired, just enough that, for me, I'm content playing Cloud and spending nothing. introduced a perfect comeback mechanic, but everything else feels like overkill, and if I'm not willing to use the tech he was designed around, then I probably shouldn't bother getting him and should stick to learning how to use Ryu and Ken in the first place. is just not a character for me. If I ever want to play a FE character, I can try one that's already in. I'm sure there's more than enough for me to choose from. because they feel like genuinely un-explored territory for a Smash fighter, and because I love his games. I would buy too, but I'll wait until the Pass ends and maybe it'll be worth the deal.
you literally could just have.... waited until they revealed all the characters? Don’t buy something, and then ask questions later.
This is the exact thing I'm trying to preach. I was an idiot 16 year old at the time and got scammed into a bad deal - publishers are taking advantage of said pubsecent idiocy to get people to buy content they don't want. You can't write off criticisms of corporations with "just use common sense", because a lot of people don't have common sense, especially in the audience for a megapopular, flashy and action-heavy E10+ rated video game that uses hype as a marketing tactic.
Yes, we get it, Capitalism bad, tell us something we don't know already.
"You can't blame people. They're stupid!" is a line I really can't buy into.
Blaming Nintendo for the consumer jumping the gun is like blaming a restaurant for having food with nuts when the consumer doesn't read the disclaimer for it.
- I remember a while back someone posted a png of Waluigi with a Piranha Plant in his hand saying this was the character they wanted. I made a snarky remark that Sakurai would definitely ad in Piranha Plant... a time later that became reality. Found it so hilarious that I could never dislike plant's inclusion - No Complaints. Perfect surprise 3rd party character from an excellent series - I'm still surprised by how much hate the western audience gave this. It really opened my eyes on how many people today dislike jrpgs and the "anime aesthetic". I loved this reveal; been a DQ fan since DQ8.- My most wanted character... though a bit underwhelmed by his move set especially compared to everybody else in pass 1- A character and franchise I only knew in passing. Wasn't my thing but other people loved him. - Since Three Houses is my 2nd most played Switch game behind Ultimate... got no problem. Sure its another FE character but the moveset differences give them variety compared to all the other FE characters already included. I don't get the mob mentality where they welcome Marth Clones with open arms but when a FE character does something different they want to burn them at the stake.- A fine choice (even though I dont like ARMS or playing this particular character)... I think that each smash game should be able to represent its generation of Nintendo. I was underwhelmed by the base newcomers not including more current generation Nintendo characters ( I loved the Nintendo characters they included dont get me wrong.)- Not my thing and has become the character I hate fighting the most... Never played Minecraft more than an hour either so doesn't hold any place in my heart. Only character I'd find smash more enjoyable if they were never included. Still, glad someone enjoys him.-The fact that the One Winged Angel track is in the game is enough reason for me to love this. Also a nice balanced character, despite how much his neutral B screwed me over especially online where dropped inputs and lag exist.- Honestly, my most played character in the DLC pack. Rex and Pyra were my most wanted character to represent current Nintendo and were afraid they'd be left behind like Elma. XC2, Splatoon 2 and BotW were my triforce of switch games that gave me entertainment on my switch while I waited for Smash Ultimate to come out.
Agreed, I was hoping for wave 2 to be focused more on 1st party characters, but looking at how much people throw around the phrase "shill picks" don't think they would have appreciated it. Meanwhile, characters like the Howard twins, Hades, Bandana Dee, Elma and a ton of pokemon have to take a back seat and probably would have had people up in arms even if they were picked.