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I'm not straight-edge because I drink, but my alcohol consumption is probably significantly lower than many other 21 year olds, so there's that.
Dr. James Rustles
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I abstain from all drugs; however, I do not abstain from casual sex. I don't know if you can consider me straight-edge or not.
xOPTIMUSxChadx
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if u drink and have casual sex i would say yea u arent but sex really isnt part of the edge thing
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Reyairia
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In that case I'm one too then.
Waste of money and health, I don't see what's the point.
MASAHIROx
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i fail.
miserably.
LOL college
miserably.
LOL college
Straight edgers are also, sorry if this is a wrong stereotype, extremely badass about being drug free. Tattoos, black hair, etc. At least the ones I know are. Though the ones around here are ********. They're all hypocritical. They all have casual sex, but they don't drink or do drugs, and beat up those that do. They're also against homosexuality. The ones around here sort of started their own thing.
xOPTIMUSxChadx
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well my hair isn't black, I don't hate homosexuals my brothers is gay and I don't have causal sex. But sex is not part of the straight edge life style thats more of a religous choice then anything else. But some kids do take it to far. My best friend who is like a brother to me isn't straight edge but he is one of the best people I know. It's personal choice and shouldn't be forced.
MarthIsMyHero
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It should go both ways, unfortunately it doesn't here. I get crap for not ever drinking. People are like "YOU'RE MISSING OUT MAN! YOU ARE GOING OUT ONE NIGHT WITH ME TO DRINK!" I'm 18. Stfu, and go away. I don't care about sex either. In fact, what the hell is the point of porn? I can't even watch it, it makes me feel awkward (not intimate or horny, just really really awkward. Think watching two ugly lesbians/gays (no offence to you guys, it's uncomfortable to watch) making out. I'm not gay or anything, it's just really... ugh. Does that make me like... super straight-edge or something? Never tried any of that stuff. :-\
xOPTIMUSxChadx
Smash Cadet
Well there is nothing wrong with porn.... lol thats not causal sex....cuz its with your own hand. Anyhow i use to get **** all the time from people I worked with. they couldn't understand how I can go 21 years and strong with out a drink or done any drugs. It's easy I have no desire. I think it's wrong and it makes people weak.
here is what you say next time someone say "hey you are missing out"
say " i don't need to be shot in the foot to know it's going to hurt"
and you might wanna through a **** you in there too lol.
Amen. You can't fully appreciate Smash unless you've played it stoned with ten friends.
Send the hate train.
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The few times I drank = totally overrated. Plus, expensive as all hell. Probably why I drink at most once a month. It's not worth it.
MASAHIROx
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Maybe for you its not.
lightweight.
lightweight.
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I've never had a drink or smoked. I intend to keep it that way.
everlasting yayuhzz
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I'm pretty straight edge, if you call it that. 
I don't see a point behind doing it.
I don't see a point behind doing it.
Grandeza
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I'm 12 so I am straight-edge and intend to stay that way.
Sporkman
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Is exactly why I don't drink so much myself. If I had a job I may feel more inclined too, but whilst out I certaintly won't order much from the bar. It's so much cheaper to just buy from stores.
On topic, the straight edge person I know makes a big thing out of being straight edge. Even though she drinks and thus, is not straight edge.
I'm straight edge yo
I don't much see the point either. There just seems to be a name for everything, doesn't there?
M.K
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I'm straight-edge.
Drinking: Maybe a sip from my parents/sister's cup. When I am 21, I will definetly not overdo it
Sex: Utterly disgusting at my age (15). Way too early, I'm enjoying my childhood.
Drugs: Absolutely sickening. Disgusting. Ruining your life through drugs is the most disgusting thing EVER!
Drinking: Maybe a sip from my parents/sister's cup. When I am 21, I will definetly not overdo it
Sex: Utterly disgusting at my age (15). Way too early, I'm enjoying my childhood.
Drugs: Absolutely sickening. Disgusting. Ruining your life through drugs is the most disgusting thing EVER!
Mugquomp
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Well, the concept of adopting it as a lifestyle goes back to the DC hardcore punk scene in the 80's. Minor Threat (a tremendous band, I highly recommend giving them a listen) wrote a couple of songs about it. One is called Straight Edge, hence the name Straight Edge for the movement. Another is Out of Step (With the World), with lyrics about how they don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or have casual sex, leading to a better quality of life.
Although I would argue that the idea has since morphed into something slightly different. A lot of people throw around the term without knowing the history of it. But that's the case with lots of other social movements, especially ones rooted in music.
Anyway, even though I admire a lot of the ideas regarding lifestyle choices present in the straight edge movement, I'm in no way straight edge. I don't smoke cigarettes, but that's about as close as I come. I see it as kind of like Communism. Sure, it looks great on paper, but in real life it's just not very practical.
xOPTIMUSxChadx
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what is wrong with labels? Is it so bad I want to be able to relate to the few people out there that are straight edge? Labels sometimes can be harmful but in this case they are helpful. When 80% of the world isn't straight edge I would say I enjoy the label.
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Might I add, I have a rather high alcohol tolerance, which makes drinking to get drunk A LOT more expensive. Doesn't help that I just like vodka.
Yeah, 12 - you aren't straight-edge. You just don't drink or do drugs because it's illegal. You really can't be straight-edge unless you are at least 16 when drinking becomes the thing.
lol. I had that happen, but not with drinks; a few people wanted me to go to a strip club. Uhh, no. One even mentioned tying me up and forcing me to go. I stopped talking to him after that.
Drinking: I went to a bar once - last year, St. Patrick's Day. What a waste of time. For anyone wondering, I had soda. Can't stand the smell of alcohol.
Sex: Well, yeah, when you're 15. lol. I recall two stories from my senior year of HS. One was a senior and an 8th grader (don't remember/know the outcome of this one), the other was another senior and his g/f. I last saw him in August 2004.
Your attitude will definitely change after high school. I had no thoughts about it 4 years ago. It's a regular occurrence now.
Drugs: Meh. I have no sympathy. The person made their choice.
xOPTIMUSxChadx
Smash Cadet
Ummm you can't really tell someone they aren't straight edge because they are a kid. at my old school kids started drinking at 12. And incase you didn't know the law really doesn't stop people from doing what they want. So to the 12 year old you rule dude don't let anyone else tell you diffrent.
xOPTIMUSxChadx
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Just one last thing. What I hate most about the who straight edge label is everyone who isn't thinks they know what it's all about. Well you don't. Unless you wrap yourself up in in the culture I don't really see how you could. I laugh when someone who isn't straight edge tries to tell me what it is and what qualifes you to be edge. I have heard the dumbest things like : "you can only be straight edge until 21", or "you have to drink and do drugs before becoming straight edge", or "you can't have sex before marriage".
The 3 X's are this and only this NO DRINKING, NO DRUGS, NO SMOKING. So stop adding **** to the list and tell people if they are or aren't straight edge if you aren't yourself. It would be like me point out who is a light weight and who can hold their booze. I have no ****ing clue! Cuz I don't drink!
The 3 X's are this and only this NO DRINKING, NO DRUGS, NO SMOKING. So stop adding **** to the list and tell people if they are or aren't straight edge if you aren't yourself. It would be like me point out who is a light weight and who can hold their booze. I have no ****ing clue! Cuz I don't drink!
Crystallion
Smash Ace
I was never drunk, I only drink cocktails sometimes and only one at the time, basically it's impossible to get drunk...maybe a bit "happier", but otherwise nothing ... and I don't smoke nor do drugs (and I never will). So yeah, I am straight edge.
... and I don't smoke nor do drugs (and I never will). So yeah, I am straight edge.xOPTIMUSxChadx
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I was never drunk, I only drink cocktails sometimes and only one at the time, basically it's impossible to get drunk...maybe a bit "happier", but otherwise nothing
dude....if you drink you aren't straight edge.........
My edges are so faded and wobbly you'd think I'm a Dodongo.
Oh god what's... what's happening to my face... ARGGGHHHH MY CHEEKS... THEY'RE SUCKING INTO MY FFFAAAAAACEEE
EDIT: Fun Fact I plan to be a cop.
Oh god what's... what's happening to my face... ARGGGHHHH MY CHEEKS... THEY'RE SUCKING INTO MY FFFAAAAAACEEE
EDIT: Fun Fact I plan to be a cop.
Mugquomp
Smash Ace
First of all, you didn't have to double post there. That's just poor etiquette.
Secondly, I think the whole culture is a pretty silly thing. It just smacks of adolescence and the desire to fit in with a crowd outside the mainstream and thus define yourself as a unique entity. If people disagree with me, fine. But I'm not just talking out of my *** here. I had many close friends in high school who defined themselves as straight edge for a time, and while I myself have never considered myself straight edge, I did enjoy many local "straight edge" bands and their concerts during high school. But with that said, it's really no different than any other counter culture ever. Disgruntled adolescents decide they want to be different, and so they align themselves with some marginalized social group in order to be nonconformists. It just so happens that this particular social group tends to devalue drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, and casual sex. But by conforming to being straight edge, the whole idea of being nonconformists melts away as everyone in the group is more or less conforming to the same ideals.
At least, this is how the scene was where I grew up. I admire a lot of the ascetic aspects of the culture. To this day I don't use painkillers, caffeine, or most other stimulants/depressants, but the kids who made up the scene, all aspiring nonconformists, were just flirting with a different label that made them feel like they were subverting society, while simultaneously fulfilling the universal human need of belonging to a larger social group.
But you don't get this kind of perspective from within the culture. It only comes in hindsight, from a vantage point situated significantly outside the straight edge culture.
But my main problem with the whole thing is people who define themselves as straight edge simply because they don't drink, smoke, etc. merely because of a lack of opportunity. One cannot truly decide to be straight edge unless they have the ability to go out and drink, buy cigarettes, purchase drugs easily, etc., yet refuse to do so. If one is not enabled to do these things (such as someone who is 12 or 14 or even 17 perhaps, depending on where you live), then you cannot truly define yourself as straight edge. It's merely a coincidence that you conform to this set of rules, not that you consciously chose to abide by them for your own mental and physical well being.
Crystallion
Smash Ace
Well, just saying, y'know?
I wouldn't care if I were straight edge anyway. ;P I don't even know exactly what it is. And by the way, I drink a lil' alcohol once a month, does this really classify as "drinking" like a teenager would use the word "drinking"? Either way, nice chatting with ya xD
Well, just saying, y'know?
That's the precise point I was getting at, really.
What's the inherent value in swearing off things like alcohol? Health, sure, but that doesn't sound like the reason most go "straight edge", especially when they wave it over your nose like a VIP pass to God's poker table.
Is there any morality inherent in it? Not at all. Showing the responsibility by taking a cab home after a night of drinking, now that's moral. Moreso than just not drinking at all, I think, as you're just taking a big sidestep around a potential problem in that case. And drunk/stoned driving is the lone thing about vices that can harm others. Beyond that, it's your own choice about what you're doing with your own body.
I drink a lot, smoke a lot, and yeah, I dabble in more illicit things. But I don't do it in horrifying excess, and you know what? I consider myself a moral person. I've got a few vices, but I don't force them on other people or use them in a fashion that endangers or harms other people. Hell, I don't even smoke indoors unless everyone there is okay with it.
To top it off I want to spend my career years dedicating my life to trawling around the dirtiest areas of the city to protect the taxpayers from addicts and criminals (and the latter from themselves, if they will accept the aid). Are you more moral than me, just because I go out on Friday? Do a few habits that only harm myself really make me a worse person than you, really negate all the good I plan to do with my life?
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xOPTIMUSxChadx
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well you say you aren't talking out of your *** but you really are. There is nothing "silly" about a bunch of people who think it's weak to do drugs, drink or smoke. You don't have to have hindsight in order to know it's wrong and shouldn't be done. And yes so kids do it to fit in but some don't it's just like everything else in the world. there are some posers. Kids if they want it bad enough can get all of the above so dont tell them they aren't straight edge cuz you can type all you want but you can't decided that and if you think making postive choices in life is silly then who are you to matter to me or anyone else who is straight edge?
Crystallion
Smash Ace
I agree with you wholeheartedly. And guess what? You said it so well that I haven't got any words left xD Really, I don't care if I were straight edge, if I'm not, that's fine by me. I like to drink once in a while, to swear it off completely... it's your thing, but why? Because it's evil? Only excessively, what could harm others in the process. I do not condone smoking, but it's a matter of personal choice. If you wish to do so, then do so, nobody can force you to stop. If you want to do drugs, then do so, but don't pull others with you. If we could all live like that and not come with the stupid "morality" issue, then we'd be getting along much better...
Oops, seems like I had a few words left, lol xD
xOPTIMUSxChadx
Smash Cadet
straight edge is just to big of a promise for most people to keep
Crystallion
Smash Ace
Why should it? Someone who doesn't want to drink, doesn't want to smoke and doesn't want to do drugs... those people are far more common. Things that might make it hard are social influences like close friends who enjoy drinking or also complete strangers in some cases. But for some people, it's just easy to say "no". Still, that does not ensure they want to take part in being straight edge, it just gives this feel of labeling that some don't like. I don't like it either to be honest.
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