Did i just discover a potential defense against Marth's edge gaurd? (on FD)

[Shack]

Tired of making it back the to edge agasint Marth, only to be struck back out by his sword? Well on FD i found something that works if they get too close.

1)Drop down and wall jump
2)Hold the direction of the edge
3)Do a bair

If you dropped low enough before the wall jump, you should be able to hit with the tip of your bair through the stage and hopefully avoid another marth slash. If not, you might actually make it out of his swords range and maybe get a hit OR you'll just trade hits (risking your KO, but potential damage/KO if he's at high enough percent). Fair trade if you were going to die anyway :/

So basically when they see you drop, they should try to attack as you wall jump, putting them in range for the bair. It's only on FD right now cuz not all of the stages will let you drop low enough and wall jump while being close enough to still hit the person on the edge. I havnt tried other stages yet.

I know this wont work if they are spacing the edge, but if they do, it might make it easier to get back to the stage.

I'll see if I can get a vid of it. I cant practice on anyone right now, but when i do, ill post back to let you know if this def works.


EDIT: If they do space and are too far to hit, start doing slow edge hops to draw them in close enough.

 

[CopyCat]

Ill also see how this works on the stage but, the only thing that may hurt this move is if the Marth CC

 

[Nihonjin]

I've done it a couple of times, its nothing new really (not for me atleast).
But yeah, It works...but if you use it too much it'll become predictable and punishable.

 

[Shack]

k cool, its just that I've never seen it in a vid or heard anyone mention it when fighting against marth. Do you haveto worry about getting hit by the tip?

 

[NC-Echo]

I have found its just like any other tactic you have to use when the other person is not expecting it.

 

[Rock Lobsta]

trust me, you didnt invent anything. People use this all the time with fox, falco etc. I do myself all the time.

 

[Shack]

trust me, you didnt invent anything. People use this all the time with fox, falco etc. I do myself all the time.

Don't their bairs have less reach? Unless their walljumps leave them close enough to the edge. And does doing it with other charcters allow a safe attack like sheik's might?(hitting with the tip from under the stage)

 

[Banks]

lol wall kicks

purrty kewl

 

[soap]

ive seen drephen do it on yoshis story when recovering to get them off the edge

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

why not just do that ledgehop nair, trade hits while knocking him away? seems easier and more reliable, and possible on all ledges.