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Sinz

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need some key-binding tips

when i started the game, i rebinded the items to 1-6 like league of legends. and put select hero/courier on f1/f2

but i'm realizing i need control groups lol, i could unbind my item keybinds but idk where else to put them. i think i could squeeze them in on mousebuttons/other random keys but i'm not too sure
My personal set up is a mimic of HoN

f1, f2 for hero / courier like yours.

qwerdf for spells

mouse 3 for voice

items are
alt + a/s/d/q/w/e for me. I like this set up a lot just because I'm used to it.

c for center

b for buying/shop

edit:

Amazing games between CLG and PB going on right now

http://www.absolutelegends.net/streams/763797/joinDOTA-with-TobiWan
 

JTB

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Alt-q alt-w alt-e
Alt-a alt-s alt-d

Is what I use

:phone:
 

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I use spells on E, R, T, B (I position my pinky on A which is my attack-command and my thumb on B which usually is my most important spell with high cooldown or is my less used spell).

My items are on D, F, G, 4, 5, 6 (they are just below and above my ring finger, middle finger and pointer. I put my most active items on G and F as they are optimally close to my pointer and middle finger).

My control groups are 1, 2 and 3. (1 for Hero + summons if it has any, 2 for summons only, 3 for hero only).

MY shop is on spacebar (so I can access it easily with my thumb).

Last pinged location-alert is Y (again, for easy access close to my pointer xD).

And yes, every single match that I play, I customize my hero spells, setting whatever is the most active ability to be used with my pointer, 2nd most used spell on middle finger and etc). If a hero has an extra 2 special abilities, I then set them to F and G (and then my most used items I put on 4 and 5).

For heroes that require me micro'ing all the time to use my summons spells (like Chen, Visage, Enchantress and soon Meepo) I use Q, W , E, S, D. I find it more comfortable to tab through units in longer games if my fingers are close to the tab key.

Invoker is the only hero I play using Q, W ,E, D, F, R. :)
 

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Got disconnected 3 times due to router/ISP issues and put in the **** queue. First game i pick TA and get this:

 

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^ truth!

I just played another game as TA. . . first blood double kill at lvl 1 with illusions before the first creep wave (yeah...). Double killed them again later, leshrac from solo mid came to kill me and i got him too, so i was 5-0 ~lvl 6. Tinker solo mid gets pissed at me for being **** and proceeds to harass me and refuse to play with the team. Zeus leaves halfway through and despite being 24-10 @ lvl 25 with manta, butterfly, bkb and buyback bank while the other team is barely pushing 20, we lose the game because the team won't work with me at all. :mad:
 

Sinz

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Ryker post your steam profile and whatnot
 

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I have more betakeys if anyone needs them
 

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hero's pretty simple

skillbuild usually goes like this

1/2/3/3/3/4/3, then can take points in 2/1 as needed, while taking 4 whenever available

only time i would deviate from this is if you're soloing long lane and need the early point in 4 for vision so u dont get ****ed (but if they have smoke u still die but that's not too bad)

build for utility items such as mek/manaboots/jango/pipe/fs depending on the situation

if team needs dps you can go manta + dps items as needed

wards are insane for both pushing and defending against pushes, and poison sting lets you freely trade hits with other heros in the laning phase provided you don't get completely outpositioned/kited due to ur ****ty range

and thats the hero in a nutshell
 

Sinz

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hero's pretty simple

skillbuild usually goes like this

1/2/3/3/3/4/3, then can take points in 2/1 as needed, while taking 4 whenever available

only time i would deviate from this is if you're soloing long lane and need the early point in 4 for vision so u dont get ****ed (but if they have smoke u still die but that's not too bad)

build for utility items such as mek/manaboots/jango/pipe/fs depending on the situation

if team needs dps you can go manta + dps items as needed

wards are insane for both pushing and defending against pushes, and poison sting lets you freely trade hits with other heros in the laning phase provided you don't get completely outpositioned/kited due to ur ****ty range

and thats the hero in a nutshell
This is pretty good except for one thing.


Don't get your ult til you finish your mana boots. You don't have the mana pool to sustain the ward spam that you need to have + gale + ult
 

Sinz

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my personal level build for veno is qweeewe(then r when iget mana boots)
 

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I also would like to add that you should be constantly spamming your wards. If not for pushing, defending, fighting or ganking then you should be setting them around to give your team vision. His wards are way too good for scouting the woods and helps you not to get ganked by an uncommon route.

If your Plague Wards are not on cooldown, then it's like you must be doing something wrong. :p

Basically, his 3rd skill is the best normal skill of the game by that mana requirement and cooldown. So learn to abuse it. :)

Edit: Also, even though you are an utility/pusher hero, it's better if you don't bring a carry to your lane. You will be pushing the lanes with your 3rd skill, and optimally you will be last-hitting a lot. If you can bring an aggressive support your lane then it's pretty much guaranteed kills, and a fast tower.

You don't need to be bound to pushing your lane only, you can go gank as early as level 1. It will always depend on the situation and self-judgement.
 

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Yeah i love to give my team vision. I really like veno, i just need to learn to survive better



edit- another story brought to you by the low priority queue! (good story this time)


I got a game and was thinking about the things i liked about veno and vengeful spirit (who i had played since she could semi-carry since thats necessary when i play with pubs). Next to them on the select was Viper and I thought "ok carry with orb walk, slows and poison dmg. Sounds fun".

I planned to go top cause I don't tend to fight with pubs about mid, but i ended up getting it over VS. Also to note, there are two people with english accents on mics who eventually tell us are from aus. I'm not sure whether they knew each other or not by how they bickered, but both were pretty outspoken. But all in all they were pretty nice and fun to team with. One was bot and the other was top.

Anyways, back to my lane. I'm against Invoker. He was going heavy E but really had no idea what he was doing. I got firstblood on him relatively early and a repeat kill when I hit lvl 6. Top (the cheerier of the two aussies) asked for a gank so i grabbed haste and went up and we killed bloodseeker.

By this point, i'm pretty fed since invoker was doing nothing to stop my last hitting at all (i dont think he understood what that is). I don't remember my timings exactly but I had phase boots and a full vanguard by ~16 min and manta finished by 23 min. I think I was already 11-1 when I had manta (invoker started spamming sun bolt [w/e they're called] and got me when i was low).

From there we had the game 100% and me and the cheery aussie started goofing around. As I was finishing my manta he told me to get rapier instead. I spent the rest of the game farming for rapier and soloing the other team. I got at least one ultra kill and we wiped their team completely a few times.

The best part of the game was the aussies going at it. The cheerful one was playing VS and being a really helpful support. The other one was playing AM and *****ing about not getting a farm/dying. Half the time I was listening to them talk and cracking up; does everyone with a british accent sound like monty python 24/7?

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Hey, there's me!

Since it's there, any great tps for DK? I usually do okay, but always end up feeling like I didn't really do much.
 

Sinz

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Hey, there's me!

Since it's there, any great tps for DK? I usually do okay, but always end up feeling like I didn't really do much.
What parts do you have trouble with him? Early game? Midgame? Mid late? Lategame?
 

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I dunno, mid to late I guess. Like I said, I don't do bad, but I don't do amazing either and feel like I should be doing more. If you feel up to it, the replay id for my last DK game was 31360508.
 

Sinz

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O_O a thousand?
Can I get one?
Steam profile: drigers5
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I'll send you in a bit. Gotta wait for aL to receive all of them. All I know is today at the meeting I got told I have a thousand betakeys.
 

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If you really have a thousand, can I have a couple? There are a few friends that just havent gotten a key and play LoL cause its free.
 

Sinz

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I'm waiting for them to be delivered but Valve told us we get a thousand keys. I think its because the game is coming out in 4 weeks.
 

JTB

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Anyone going to the international? I'm going to be up there for PAX, so I might stop by for a while.

:phone:
 
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