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Falco Matchup Thread

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The Falco Matchup Thread
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2011-present

Note: Each character (and discussion of the matchup) has its own thread. You are free to contribute at any point to the matchups as long as they remain productive, and at least a little more beneficial to the community than harmful.

I did not summarize them, because who am I to tell you what is important in a matchup? We all gain different things from it, so absorb whatever you want from the conversation. Reading a few pages and gaining useful tools beats being lazy.

We have enough bad Falcos...
 
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Discussion Threads.

1 Ganondorf http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=302409
2 Zelda http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=302439
3 Link http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=302830
4 Jigglypuff http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=303106
5 Samus http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=303255
6 Captain Falcon http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=303458
7 Bowser http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=303626
8 Mario http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=304145
9 Lucas http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=304790
10 Yoshi http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=304791
11 Pokemon Trainer http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306421
12 Ness http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=307558
13 Sheik http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=308404
14 Toon Link http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=292258
15 Luigi http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=308986
16 Ike http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=308987
17 Sonic http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309470
18 Pit http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=310646
19 ROB http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=311134
20 Kirby http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=311135
21 Donkey Kong http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=311652
22 Peach http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=311653
23 Wolf http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=312037
24 Fox http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=312477
25 Toon Link http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=312961
26 Mr. Game & Watch http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=312962
27 Zero Suit Samus http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=314292
28 King Dedede http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=314968
29 Lucario http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=316575
30 Pikachu http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317176
31 Olimar http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317486
32 Ice Climbers http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317839
33 Wario http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319069
34 Marth http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319478
35 Falco http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319610
36 Snake http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319611
37 Diddy http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=322153
38 Meta Knight http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=322154
 

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You guys choose the first character. Just keep in mind that low tier characters have not been discussed at all in the past and Meta Knight, although there is much to talk about, has been discussed frequently.
 

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Start with the bottom and work our way up so. Easier matchups will be dealt with quickly, and several may be done in a single week due to easily agreeable **** matchups on characters like falcon or ganon.
 

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I be okay with starting on Ganon but how long would it take to complete that MU discussion?
 

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I agreed with Swordsaint's idea as soon as I saw it, but wanted other input.

Made the thread.

Also, a cool name for this wouldn't hurt. ;D
 

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iirc I still have the PSD for the other matchup chart graphic, so if you want me to recolor it / change the numbers or something, I could pretty easily do that at some point.
 

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iirc I still have the PSD for the other matchup chart graphic, so if you want me to recolor it / change the numbers or something, I could pretty easily do that at some point.
Post what you have and I'll let you know what you could do to fix it.
 

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Are we still going with the arbitrary percentage-ratios or shouldn't we just start doing what the BBR did with the mu chart? (+1 for advantage, +2 for good counterpick etc). It seems to make more sense and the percentages can get misleading.

Not that it makes much difference; I just think it would look better in the overview.
 

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Are we still going with the arbitrary percentage-ratios or shouldn't we just start doing what the BBR did with the mu chart? (+1 for advantage, +2 for good counterpick etc). It seems to make more sense and the percentages can get misleading.

Not that it makes much difference; I just think it would look better in the overview.
i agree we should use the same scale as the BBR
 

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If we use the BBR scale I probably won't discuss, matchups are more than just advantage/disadvantage etc.

The BBR has no idea what they're talking about half the time, especially given how much respect was lost when they showed us their stage lists. I have absolutely no desire to do anything that the BBR 'recommends'.

Ratios work as long as the matchups are summarised, which hasn't been done in the past. I'm more than happy to supply summaries on what's been posted in the matchup discussions.
 

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Brawl Back Room charts are not necessary to keep up the independent flow of the Falco boards going. We are fine on our own, so let's just do our own thing, and keep it simple.

Ratios work as long as the matchups are summarised, which hasn't been done in the past. I'm more than happy to supply summaries on what's been posted in the matchup discussions.
That would be very much appreciated!
 

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I am glad you are back on the falco boards MMM. Ever since you got into the BBR you have posted much less on the falco boards.
 

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I am glad you are back on the falco boards MMM. Ever since you got into the BBR you have posted much less on the falco boards.
Thanks man. Gamegenie has been bugging the crap out of me to post here more often :p Honestly I've just been really busy with projects in the BBR, designing Vibrant, real life, etc. I just haven't had as much time :(

I still don't have enough time to be super active here again yet, but I'm all for lending a hand with the matchup chart since that's important and I know it's hard to get someone to make the graphic. I'll try to put in my two cents on matchups when I can though.

Hopefully after I finish some things I will be able to post more again :p
 

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This is a true story I have been bugging the crap out him about it despite the fact he's a better Falco than I am:laugh: but no matter I will try to help these boards flourish more and strengthen our boards with gathering info if necessary.
 

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someone else should do the matchup summaries.

It seems i dont have the time to go through every post and summarise it all just now.
 

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I might be able to find time sometime soon. No promises though.

I posted the Link thread since discussion pretty much ceased. We gotta keep it moving.
 

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Should be moving a little faster, Ganon and Zelda are pretty much decided, so chuck up Jigglypuff as well. And if you're really looking to get things going, Samus.
 

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If anyone mind, I can help with starting on the Jiggs MU thread if anyone cares? I just want to get input on this before I make a move also we should get 2-3 MU's out of the way each week till we are done?
 

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If anyone mind, I can help with starting on the Jiggs MU thread if anyone cares? I just want to get input on this before I make a move also we should get 2-3 MU's out of the way each week till we are done?
Go ahead I really don't care.
 

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I am going to be using quotes, points, and basic tips to summarize matchups. Informative but easy-to-read. Hope you guys are okay with that. Also, if you have any problems with the summaries please let me know on here, the individual threads, or private message me.

Sorry for the delay - these will be done soon. Promise.
 

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Ok then, I can still do MU threads in your absence or if you are busy and can't get to them right?
 
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