Lucas or Ness?

[Finding Waldo]

Concerning the two children from EarthBound, who do you prefer, and why?

I am going to go ahead and say that I am a Lucas fan, due to his U-Smash and the ability for his PK Thunder to pass through opponents, and his PSI Magnet having a strong attack strength with it. I find it humorous to hold out his PSI Magnet and have people run through it expecting a free hit, only to be sent flying off the screen.

 

[smashbro29]

Well it all depends on playstyle I suppose but I gotta be honest I only play those 2 in SSE so Lucas is better for that

 

[Levitas]

Lucas has cooler ATs.

 

[The Real Inferno]

I like Lucas, but I am lightyears better at the game with Ness. I just find Ness so familiar I guess after playing him since 64. Still, if I were to pick which one is -better- I would definitely say it is Lucas.

 

[Sosuke]

Idk they both have their own cheap methods. Lucas I guess.

 

[peeup]

Lucas has wavebouncing, PK Jumping, a better PKThunder2, a tether grab a better neutral B, better upsmash, nair, dair, tilts, and he doesn't make your ears bleed whenever he uses a special...

Even so, I like Ness better, I like his fair, bair, and PKFire better.

 

[Zenthewanderer]

Gotta go with Lucas. I like his specials much more and his personality. Ness is a little too generic in terms of personality- not a big deal, but he's just sort of a little hero without much to make him unique. It was the same in Earthbound, yep I own it for the Snes.

For what its worth, I also prefer the attributes of Lucas's Final Smash. Ness's may go faster, but they're too few of them to work with.

 

[Negi-Kun]

Ness .

 

[JacobWins]

pk fire to fsmash XD

he has and ''easy to hit with'' spike and VERY useful aerials

Bair is like CF's knee
Fair is good dmg buildup
Uair has good knockback
Dair is a spike

 

[hippochinfat!!]

Pretty close but I like Lucas' ATs more.

 

[Zench]

I don't like any of them, I'm so tired of their shouting.
But I hold a button on Lucas.

 

[SirKibble]

Bat > Twig
Pillar of Flaming Death > Fire Puff
Yo-Yo > Ultra Lag Blast o' Lagarrific Psychic Doom and Lag
PK Kaboom > PK Snowflake

Yeah, I'm a Ness fan...

 

[mantlecore77]

Lucas for sure.

 

[Deleted member]

Ness, due to that awesome red hat.

 

[Finding Waldo]

I do like the bumblebee costume of Ness and his PK Fire, but Lucas is better for most other things. One thing in particular... have you ever followed a recovering Ness off the edge and intercepted his PK Thunder?

 

[JacobWins]

I do like the bumblebee costume of Ness and his PK Fire, but Lucas is better for most other things. One thing in particular... have you ever followed a recovering Ness off the edge and intercepted his PK Thunder?

sometimes when they try that, they end up being too slow and getting nailed by the rocket

 

[Diddy King]

Let this end the lucas-ness debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ybob6J_xQ

 

[Sosuke]

Let this end the lucas-ness debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ybob6J_xQ

That was so bad.

 

[PKSkyler]

Why does everyone make these topics? the two MOTHER kids would rather be friends then fight.

But Ness.

 

[awlccl123]

I am better as Lucas, but i like Ness better.

 

[Giga Wario]

Lucas is better than Ness in almost every way:
Speed (running)
Attack Power
GRAB Range
Grab Power
Recovery
Control
Actual personality
Non Laggy Kill Moves (sidesmash, PSI magnet etc)
Voice Actress

Heck, the only two areas that Ness is better than Lucas in gameplay wise are comboing ability and sise of PSI Magnet.

Personally, I like Ness better though, as he IS one of the original 12...

 

[orochijes]

Lucas is all around a better character.
So of course I choose to play as Ness. "Okay"

 

[Sosuke]

Lucas is all around a better character.
So of course I choose to play as Ness. "Okay"

You just had to ruin the simple discussion.
Here comes the arguing.
*unsubscribes from this thread*

 

[Bowser King]

I play better with Lucas but I like Ness far more.

 

[the Lexx]

Ness actually has approaches that work and a decent air game. He's not better by much though, Lucas has his strengths.

 

[PKSkyler]

Lucas is better than Ness in almost every way:
Speed (running)=Woo hoo. Its such a small advantage
Attack Power= how about Attack speed?
GRAB Range=And Grab lag
Grab Power=ARE you kidding? Ness`Bthrow is the strongest throw in the game. Dthrow combos well, uthrow pops in the air for pkt comboing/aerial chase, and fthrow can help lead to spikes.
Recovery=Yeah, Lucas` is better, but Ness` PKT2 is a better move as an attack
Control=Dont understand what you mean. They both have a learning curve, I guess, but I control Ness well.Lucas is wayy easier to learn though
Actual personality=Lucas is a wimp.He saves the world though. Ness saves the world and faces his inner demons. I guess this is debatable since Lucas lost his mother and brother.
Non Laggy Kill Moves (sidesmash, PSI magnet etc)=Side smash and PKF is it. PSIM can be lag cancelled, and Lucas` upsmash and won smash have bad lag, much more than Ness`. Lucas` aerials get beat out by Ness`
Voice Actress="Okay?"

Heck, the only two areas that Ness is better than Lucas in gameplay wise are comboing ability and sise of PSI Magnet.
Wrong
Personally, I like Ness better though, as he IS one of the original 12...Agreed

my responses in red.

 

[Zevox]

Lucas for me. I main him, but I've never played Ness much. I just don't like how Ness works, particularly with his PK Fire changing angles when he's in the air. Liking Lucas came as a complete surprise to me as a result - he has all the (few) things I did like about Ness, and replaces nearly all the things I didn't like with ones I do. The psi-hexagon based attacks seem to synch with me so much better than Ness' more basic physical attacks and few psi-sphere attacks ever did. I also love the changes to PK Thunder - more easily controlled, can pass through foes, and PK Thunder Missile is longer-range - and Psi Magnet being usable as an attack is quite the blessing, especially since it sacrifices nothing in exchange for that ability. And of course, his PK Fire is much more intuitive of a projectile than Ness' version.

So, yeah, I like Lucas.

Zevox

 

[SirKibble]

Let this end the lucas-ness debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ybob6J_xQ

"From what I understand, that move is called the Mother-Earthbound."

Um... Yeah... Originality FTW? No, man, that was PK Body Slam...

Why does everyone make these topics? the two MOTHER kids would rather be friends then fight.

Yes, very true.

 

[Iron Thorn]

Lucas. You can't go wrong with a stick, a pet snake, and that hair. Gotta love the hair.

 

[prescot222]

I prefer Lucas over Ness..
Almost all of Lucas's attacks have a lightening charge involved and seem to do more damage than Ness's plain melee attacks..

But that's just my opinion

 

[Veggi]

I like Ness more, I just sort of like his Yo-yo and he's less annoying than Lucas, as well as having a PK PH1R3 I like more, I don't like either of the characters alot though.

 

[KoJ]

Lucas is better than Ness in almost every way:
Speed (running)

Not important for Ness. Ness uses aerials, Hyphen Smash, and dash attack to approach without getting too close.

Attack Power

Yeah.

GRAB Range

Yeah. Too bad Ness wins in the throw department.

Grab Power

Hell no. Ness's backthrow is the strongest in the game.

Recovery

Yes.

Control

Opinion.

Actual personality

Neither of them can claim this.

Non Laggy Kill Moves (sidesmash, PSI magnet etc)

Laughable. Bair can easily KO. PSI magnet? No.

Voice Actress

Opinion. I find "PK PIYAH!" hilarious. Same with "PK STAAAAH-STOOOOOOOM!!!"

Heck, the only two areas that Ness is better than Lucas in gameplay wise are comboing ability and sise of PSI Magnet.

Did you just ignore spiking ability, superior air game in general, Yoyo charge up, and the back throw? Shame on you.

 

[Sygmus]

I'm better with Ness because I've been playing him since 64. Plus I much prefer the yo-yo over Lucas's laggy moves. If I wanted a slow powerful character I'd rather choose Ike. Also, I like all of Ness's arials better.

 

[Finding Waldo]

Of course, I have also played as Ness since the 64, and initially liked him better, but I am not a fan of the yo-yo. I cannot use that thing efficiently. I am not sure where the hexagons came from with Lucas, since I never played the original game, but I like them for the most part.

Laughable. Bair can easily KO. PSI magnet? No.

I actually find the PSI magnet quite useful as an attack. It has much more strength than I thought it would, and makes the same sound effect as Zelda and Ness's B-air. It is one of my KO moves for Lucas.

As for his U-smash, true, it is laggy, sometimes you can make someone run into it, and then they are Toasty Oats.

However, those "Extendy Grabs" seem to hinder more than help, and I would prefer to have a normal one over those.

 

[Brinzy]

I was going back and forward between the two for a while.

One day, I woke up and kicked Lucas out of my life.

Ness.

 

[~Peachy~]

I really like Lucas better. But some days, I say I like Ness more.

 

[deepseadiva]

There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

Yes I'm Still Holding Grudges

 

[PKSkyler]

Yes I'm Still Holding Grudges

What, you WANTED Ness to not be in brawl? I was seriously discouraged that he said that (since Ness is just sooo awesome, earthbounds my fav RPG, etc. etc.) but hes in....so I guess I can forgive Sakurai for all that time making me think "Brawls gonna suck, if only for the fact they kicked out Ness...."

 

[OmegaXXII]

neither, but I do have to say Ness is better overall, at least in SBB64 he was.

 

[DivineBlade]

I like how ness' PK fire shoots diagonal and spikes with his Dair but Lucas is by far better