Marth's Grab Release Combo's *Still adding*

[_Kadaj_]

Since no one has made the thread yet I decided to do so lol

Here I will list the possible grab release follow ups on all the characters that it can be done on.

Some of these you guys may not know, sorry for not telling people earlier?

***Note done correctly these will all tipper



Metaknight

Normal Dash
* Fair
* Dancing Blade
* Dash Attack
* Short Hop Dolphin Slash

Buffered Dash
* Dair
* Up Air
* Nair (not really effective due to it easily being able to be DI'd out of, at higher damages it's even easier)

On a moving platform going towards you
*Running Up Smash
*Studder Step Foward Smash
* All Aerials

Rainbow Cruise Only
*Studder Step Forward Smash ( Only on the moving parts of the stage, where the stage is moving towards the direction you are facing)

Wario
Assuming that you don't move anywhere
* Up air
* Up Tilt
* F tilt
* Foward Smash
* Reverse Studder Step Foward Smash
* Fair
* Dair
* Bair
* Retreating Bair (For Tipper)
* Jab
* Up Smash
* Nair
* Short Hop or Full Hop Dolphin Slash
* Turn Around Dair (if you want to hit with the back side of the Dair, still tippers and spikes)


On a moving platform going away from you
* Turn around Uptilt
* All aerials (you have to chase them with it though)
* Turn around FTilt

Under a platform
*Up tilt

Under Shorter Platforms like Battefield
* Up tilt
* Ftilt
* Reverse Studder Step Forward Smash
* Forward Smash
* Fair
* Nair
* UpAir
* Full Hop Reverse UpB

Pokemon Trainer

Squirtle
* Studder Step Forward Smash
* Dash and Re-grab
* Dash Attack
* Dair
* Dancing Blade

Ivysuar
* Full Hop Up Air

Ice Climbers

Obviously only when Sopo is present
* Up Air
* Fair

On a moving platform going towards you
* Fair
* Up Air
* Running Up Smash
* Nair
* Dair

Lucas
Aerial Release
* Fair
* Up Air
* Dair

Grounded Release
* Dolphin Slash
* Dancing Blade
* Re-grab
* Down Smash
* Foward Smash
* Jab
* F Tilt
* D tilt

Ness

Aerial Release
* Full Hop Retreating Dair (Kinda Diffcult to do but VERY possible)
* Fair
* Up Air

Grounded Release
*See 's Grounded Releases

Falco
If you land a grab in front of the ledge
*Run off Fair

Game&Watch
Normal Dash
* Fair
* Up Air

Struggled list coming soon..

 

[Remzi]

kadaj you are a ****ing BOSS, lol

 

[_Kadaj_]

Thanks Bengals, I'll go back and do the characters who have to struggle so that you can get and Aerial Release on them a little later. I'm at school right now

 

[Freezewish]

GnW:
Gr to fair

These characters have to struggle for it to work:

DK:
gr to uair

D3:
gr to tipper'd dash attack (timing's weird on this one but not difficult at all)

EDIT: get outta here with that gr to dair on ness kadaj lmao. ****'s impossible >_>

 

[Foodies]

Yay, thanks for making this. I look forward to the other parts :D

 

[_Kadaj_]

LOL Freeze I can do it, so it can't be THAT hard right
And yeah I'll add the releases from struggles a little later today

 

[gallax]

cant u GR diddy to dash attack?

 

[Freezewish]

Yes GR to tipper'd dash attack and tipper'd fair both work on diddy.

 

[_Kadaj_]

They have to struggle for it to work Gallax.

Again I'll put the list up for those later

 

[Saybr]

Kadaj, you are my hero.

 

[makoforce]

really cant do MK's i always take off to late

 

[6Mizu]

I'm proud of you Kadaj! Gooood ****!
I really like this thread.

And question.
Are you sure thts all you can do to Lucas?

 

[GimR]

tip:

If you want to spike wario,

it's easier to just buffer backward on the control stick after pummeling him.

When he releases just full hop D-air, Marth will automatically turn around and the spike will be easy

 

[Mr-R]

I actually spike wario with the front side of my down air, it's easier for me

 

[GimR]

I actually spike wario with the front side of my down air, it's easier for me

To each his own I guess. The timing is pretty lenient that's why I said its easier

 

[6Mizu]

I actually spike wario with the front side of my down air, it's easier for me

I don't really get play wario's but yea i tried it in training and its easier with the front.

 

[Nike.]

Add uair to G&W.

 

[_Kadaj_]

I thought I did lol, guess I forgot

 

[Orion*]

you can grab release to tipper uair on mk???? O_____O

fuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[GimR]

you can grab release to tipper uair on mk???? O_____O

fuuuuuuuuuuu

don't worry, at low percentages you have a 4 frame advantage meaning you can d-air Marth before he finished landing on the ground

 

[Orion*]

okay nvm, LOL i was so mad XD

 

[GimR]

okay nvm, LOL i was so mad XD

unless he spaces away from you :D

 

[C.J.]

Wait, that doesn't make sense. Aren't air releases ALWAYS 50 (or however many) frames, percent irrelevant? Just like ground releases on both sides are ALWAYS 30 frames (squirtle, Ness, Lucas, and Bowser aside)

There's no reason we can do it at high percents but not low percents...

 

[Nike.]

The one's with the smiley face on them? I made that exact face when I read them.

 

[LooftWaffles]

Wait, that doesn't make sense. Aren't air releases ALWAYS 50 (or however many) frames, percent irrelevant? Just like ground releases on both sides are ALWAYS 30 frames (squirtle, Ness, Lucas, and Bowser aside)

There's no reason we can do it at high percents but not low percents...

He means frame advantage after the hit, I believe. Uair is hella laggy in the air, I think he means MK can ffdair before you can act. Obviously only at low percents

 

[_Kadaj_]

Well Orion fresh tipper up air out of a GR will be killing around 136 fresh LOL

Really no need to do it a low percents similar to up tilt because they can hit you because of low knockback and stun

lol Nike most of the ones with beside it I found on my own

 

[Anaky]

Ness and Lucas vs Marth is just LOL

 

[_Kadaj_]

Yeah it's just not fair at all hahahahaha

 

[Orion*]

unless he spaces away from you :D

wouldnt you assume this fml.

i hate marth , but tippers are mad cute

 

[Orion*]

sorry for double posting but what is *around* 136

probably the most precise approximation ever LOOL

 

[_Kadaj_]

lol I know, didn't think of it until you pointed it out xD

 

[Raziek]

I wonder, is it possible to combine this thread's list with an updated list of our other true combos? (Takeurlife2's old thread)

If we can keep this completely up to date, it would be an AMAZING resource.

Amazing post Kadaj, only error I foudn was that you have U-Smash listed twice under Wario. xD

 

[_Kadaj_]

Thanks Razeik.

About to do some updating for characters that struggle, which is only a few but yeah.

 

[mikeHAZE]

AIM me next time you're on, i'll contribute to you.

 

[Shaya]

btw kadaj,

you can use fair,nair,uair, ds to hit wario if you're underneath a platform.

(not Smashville's one, but battlefields/ps1s/etc)

full hop reverse dolphin slash fresh I believe is the earliest we can kill wario vertically.

 

[Pierce7d]

Utilt and Usmash don't have more vertical knockback than RDS?

 

[Remzi]

I think he is only including the ones that are usable under a BF height platform.

 

[Shaya]

Utilt and Usmash don't have more vertical knockback than RDS?

I seem to see that both utilt and usmash have a lot more ability to DI...

when I see someone get RDS they go... straight up.
take into consideration also being slighter "higher" too (yeah that distance makes a difference).

but the knockback o RDS vertically is the same as horizontally... forgot the list of kill power of marth moves unfortunately (lol).

but perhaps reverse utilt is still stronger, but I'd say its more likely to kill than usmash.

 

[Pierce7d]

Typically, people only go straight up because they are anticipating horizontal knockback, and hence DI up. This isn't reliable out of a GR.

 

[6Mizu]

Utilt and Usmash don't have more vertical knockback than RDS?

Prolly kind of a dumb question but what's "RDS" stand for?
I prolly already know, but I just don't recognize the abbreviation.