Marth's Stabbing Shield Breaker returns from Brawl

[Shudouken]

Same Motion, purple lines behind Marth.

I can live with it if it comes out faster this time, maybe the power boost makes it worthwhile too

 

[Frostwraith]

Interesting observation, but this is the wrong place to post.

I'll move it to the Marth sub-forum on the character discussion boards.

 

[Commander]

Marth is lunging forward even more so now. We already knew Falchion was at its Melee length but, so this must reach really far out. This Shield Breaker seems like it is going to be a lot of fun.

 

[Awaji66]

It's neat that they use the stabbing one again also nice to see it in action. Hmm... you can see some clipping in the pic. Marth's scabbard goes right into his leg.

 

[Shaya]

Marth is lunging forward even more so now. We already knew Falchion was at its Melee length but, so this must reach really far out. This Shield Breaker seems like it is going to be a lot of fun.

Marth lunges pretty far forward in Brawl, the comparison picture isn't necessarily the same 'point' in the animation. We won't really know until we see it in game if its stretching more forward or anything like that.

Also where has this whole 'melee falchion length' thing even come from? Speculation based off of pictures? I'm hyped for the possibility of him having longer reach comparatively than he did in Brawl, but I'm not willing to state any of it as matter-of-fact.

 

[Commander]

The image of him using Dancing Blade on Arena Ferox made it look very long and the image wasn't angled at all. Also there was the white board image where Falchion goes off screen.

 

[NonSequtur]

Maybe it'll actually be used to break shields now. Power buff + (maybe) increased range? Sounds like shielding is a really scary prospect against him now. Like a 'time your roll/sidestep perfectly or you are getting either stabbed or shield broken' kind of scary. Try and jump or aerial? Stab. Try and grab? Stab. Stay in shield? Break. Wavedash OOS? Unless it's Luigi that's a stab. Mistime your roll? Stab or break. That's a scary amount of coverage. And all it takes is good spacing and timing, which Marth should have anyway? On the minus side it probably will be pretty punishable should you miss, and unless the hit boxes are really wide it won't be nearly as good an edge guard / aerial finisher. Ah well, there's always f-smash and n-air.

If it's fast enough wouldn't it make approaching aerials safer? Try and shield grab and you might get shield broken.

On the subject of range: if we think his old attack range is coming back does that include the old robot hands? I miss grabbing people a character-length away.

Anyone notice the weird effect going on around the shield? Not only the distortion, the weird white swirl on the shield itself. Also what is Marth's body doing? His torso looks... deformed.

 

[Commander]

He hit Lucario's double team not his shield. That's why the area is being swirled.

 

[Remzi]

It was a terribly under-utilized move in brawl. It ALMOST resembled a command grab in that it was something that you could land with to potentially beat shield. It was also his best ranged move. I'm glad it's back, I enjoyed both versions of the move.

Sakurai confirmed that its even stronger on shield this time which is just ridiculous. I can't wait.

 

[ぱみゅ]

It kind of remembers me that 50% of the times I went for a DB it got Powershielded.

 

[ToothiestAura]

It makes more sense for it to be a stab, what with Marth's whole dangerous sword tip thing.
I want it to make the Mr. Saturn noise when it hits a shield, but that will never happen.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I'm more curious if the attack will still create momentum when used in the air.

 

[DaDavid]

I'm glad it's in the stab form. I disliked it in Brawl mostly because it was bad at what it was supposed to do, but if it will still create momentum, then that along with the buff makes it plenty useful.

 

[Jackson]

I'm glad it was buffed. I'll likely mix it in a lot to punish people who shield too much.

 

[Dark Emperor Hardin]

This is much better than the charged swing in Melee (which is also in Project M). I'm glad to see it return.

 

[Diddy Kong]

The charged swing is more effective for edgeguarding. I think it'll be possible to switch into this move via customisable moves.

 

[Jackson]

The charged swing is more effective for edgeguarding. I think it'll be possible to switch into this move via customisable moves.

That may be true, but this version has more range I believe.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Guess slightly so. But the move was never too reliable anyway. Sure it represents Marth better, but the swing is just a better functioning move. Not that Forward Smash isn't a great edgeguard or anything...

 

[Gameboi834]

Sakurai stated in one of the PotDs that Marth's Shield Breaker will be more effective at breaking shields.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well that's a great buff already I feel. Almost forgot about it.

 

[Jackson]

Yeah, if a quick one will do a lot of shield damage, I'm satisfied.

 

[Oatmeal.]

As a veteran Marth main in Melee, I'll miss his old sword swing.

But then again, maybe this time it'll actually break shields and become useful.

 

[Jackson]

As a veteran Marth main in Melee, I'll miss his old sword swing.

But then again, maybe this time it'll actually break shields and become useful.

It was actually a decent mixup in Brawl, but it doesn't break shields that well uncharged, so I agree.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

And did you SEE the Custom Moves video where he leapt across almost all of Pyrosphere with it?

 

[Shaya]

His shieldbreaker in brawl does that already. And you can do it multiple times where the consecutive ones require no charging to maintain the same momentum.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

His shieldbreaker in brawl does that already. And you can do it multiple times where the consecutive ones require no charging to maintain the same momentum.

But the custom version is a single bound.

 

[Shaya]

Looked to me like a fully charged aerial shieldbreaker

 

[Jackson]

Looked to me like a fully charged aerial shieldbreaker

I see what you mean, but the ground dash version was shown as a custom move in the direct. It could be the same momentum effect except customized for ground use.