My Tournament Matches (plz rate)

[Luma]

vs Ravenlord
Sheik vs Fox 01
Sheik vs Fox 02
Sheik vs Ice Climbers 03



vs perfect_shadow
Doc vs Sheik 01
Doc vs Sheik 02
CF vs Sheik 03
CF vs Sheik 04



help me to improve, plz =D

 

[einthesuperdog]

Looks pretty good, I don't know if I'm justified in critiquing but here it goes. In that first match against fox you seemed to be having trouble preventing his recovery with the firefox. It was much better in the second match though. I think that the nairs at low percentage can be dangerous because of the lag and low knockback allows for punishing it pretty badly. I also noticed a lack of grabs, although you did try a few times. And there was also no needle canceling but that may just be a stylistic thing.
Hope this helps.

 

[unnknownz]

looks good

 

[NeighborhoodP]

cant tell until you play a fox that doesn't suck.

overall you just seem to play slow, both in speed and in reaction time. get better at attacking out of shield. and edgeguarding needs work.

 

[Luma]

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=115681

look at those vids first before u try to talk about that fox

 

[Yomi-no-Kuni]

well, he did play not too good in those matches ....
no kidding
either way, you beat him, go luma

 

[Zankoku]

You rarely seem to fastfall at all. Consider working on that, it'll make you a lot faster in the air considering how often you're jumping up and falling down or dropping off of platforms doing nothing.

 

[Retroking2000]

some of sheiks attack arent that effective when fastfalled like her nair for example it breaks the shield more when not fast falled

 

[Zankoku]

Huh? Sheik's nair only hits once. The only way I could see a non-fastfalled nair breaking a shield instead of a fastfalled one is if the guy decided to shield way before the nair hit him.

 

[mecatomato]

if it sounds bad, i'm sorry but i will tell you my opinion. =) no offense at all..
Positives
1. decent needle skill
2. good use of Dsmash, Nair and Fair

Negatives (things i think you should improve on)
1. more wavedash than rolls. Roll when you really have to roll.
2. too much un-necessary moves. Unless faking your foe, don't abuse attacks, it makes you lose your timing.
3. too little grab. Grab More. Grab is start of a combo.
4. Use Dair to Fair on the 'un-sweetspotted' foe, for example, fox who went above the stage with UpB, use Dair to send him/her up and then Fair.


Good Luck!

 

[Luma]

3. is kinda wrong since i play PAL ^^

but thx

 

[mecatomato]

3. is kinda wrong since i play PAL ^^

but thx

PAL?? hmmm... i didn't know you are playing PAL. =P
my bad.


you're welcome, and good luck.
cheers-

 

[Luma]

well u can still combo some chars, but mostly u can just techchase after an d/uthrow, its not like i can kill a peach by dthrow to upair (since uair is nerfed aswell xD)

 

[Ravenlord]

cant tell until you play a fox that doesn't suck.

overall you just seem to play slow, both in speed and in reaction time. get better at attacking out of shield. and edgeguarding needs work.

i guess youre only talking about the Fox in the vids, who is me.


After discussing a lot with Luma, we came to the conclusion your vids are not very good, too.
For example, in this one, your edgeguarding sucks.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJ8ksdVJjbQ
That's a contrary to what you said.
Also, wtf? Attacks out of shield against Fox?
I can tell you, Luma is pretty good, but i am not so bad, too.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Are you stupid? Contrary to what I said? When did I ever say my edge guarding was amazing? That's the worst part of my game and I always say that. Stop breathing.

You're not good at English, don't bother trying to get into semantical battles with a language that is likely not your native, plz stop

 

[Ravenlord]

Are you stupid?

Yes, i am.

Contrary to what I said?

Yup.

When did I ever say my edge guarding was amazing?

Never.

That's the worst part of my game and I always say that. Stop breathing.

Did i say the opposite? No! You said, Luma should improve his edgeguard against a Fox player, who is actually me.
So, Luma's edgeguard is amazing. But why can't he edgeguard me? Cause im recovering very well. Ever thought of that? I was told that i have a good recovery by several players.
The thing I am talking about is a different one.

You're not good at English,

Right. But you understood it. That's the thing you should care about.

don't bother trying to get into semantical battles with a language that is likely not your native, plz stop

Why not? Lemme guess.... You didn't find any other arguments, did you? Well...

 

[NeighborhoodP]

recovering well = basic. i recover very well vs marth, but if the marth plays it perfectly then perfect edge guarding > perfect recovering.

therefore bad edge guarding is the culprit more so than good recovering.

 

[Yomi-no-Kuni]

now THAT is the german art of unnescesary argumentation...

nice quotation work you got there raiden!
why the hell are you flaming him?

oh my god, you dont appreaciate his avice, and he might have been a bit offensive...

enough to start getting aggressive?


i think it would be fit to show some more respekt in the international forum...
from neighborhood too...

 

[Ravenlord]

Well, it is basic to avoid edgeguarding? In my opinion, it is not. It's basicly the same thing against every character you play against...


Yomi: I'm in a bad mood, you know me. I am a friendly guy. BUT i am in a bad mood - and when i read things like Neighborhood posted ...

 

[Luma]

how the hell do u wanna help me getting a better egdeguard if u dont even know how to do it better?

how to hell do u wanna help me improve anything, when u just dont know anything?

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Dude, you expect me to tell you specifically how not to get edge guarded? By telling you your weaknesses I'm letting you know what to work on... The first step is figuring out what you're doing wrong. Just because I can't tell you exactly how you should go about doing it doesn't mean I shouldn't mention you're bad at it.

Also, just because you can't execute something doesn't mean you don't know how it SHOULD be done...

You're dumb, stop talking. If you're ever in the USA I'll **** you in a mm for any amount, otherwise never talk to me again.

 

[Luma]

lol u are so dumb! cant stop laughing xD

edit:
so in the end i could comment every vid with:

play better


xD omg u are so dumb xD

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Yeah, except I logically refuted your inane statements and left you with nothing to say.

I'm that dumb.

Maybe dumb means something different in German but in English you just got ***** =/

 

[Luma]

normally when someone laughs about u, mhh well, then u got kinda ***** but maybe its different for u since everybody is laughing at u

 

[NeighborhoodP]

Oh, I didn't know this was a popularity contest. Logic is objective. Emotions are subjective. Guess which side you're on.

 

[mecatomato]

Just stop arguing, people.

Quoting King from DBR..

You are not better than me
nor are you worse than me
you do a certain style
I do a certain style
That is all

 

[Shmooguy]

More ftilt spam. It could just be different styles, since we're in different regions and all, but ftilt *****. Just go in close and start spamming it in front of them, works like a charm. After awhile you'll start to get which situations are good for throwing it out and when spamming it will get you punished (it is possible for them to punish ftilt if they know how, but it's hard). Also switch it up with ftilt > jab > ftilt > jab > dtilt > jab > jab grab, etc. Usually they'll try to jump before that though and you can combo.

EDIT: Nvm, I saw you do this a few times and it worked. I wrote the above paragraph after only watching like half of your first match. I actually really like your sheik style, good use of dsmash at the edge, good use of CC and dtilt (i never dtilt against spacies), good use of nair, and you hit with your needles a lot.

 

[Luma]

thx, there will be some more vids of me (since there will be some tournaments)
i wasnt on the top of my game back then + matches againt p_s are really boring since we train together

 

[Ijuka]

Yayyyyyyy Luma greatly succeeds in making us Europeans embarrassed!!(Not quite well as I do though)

The Fox doesn't suck though, sucking is something far below that to me.

It seems to me that Luma has actually improved since RoX4 =O

Typing this after only watching the videos against Ravenlord, will type more after I'm done with watching the rest:

Okay, so in fact both of the players need to work on both their edgeguarding and recovery. Luma recorded on stage for no reason a few times and wasn't recovering that good usually, although in DL64 it was smart to recover to the platform a few times. Maybe.

The Fox could have avoided some edgeguards had he recovered better, so in my opinion there still is some improvement to do.

Luma actually isn't that good at edgeguarding, it's true. Of course my requirements for being good at edgeguarding might be a little stricter than they should, for some of the people in Finland have started to excessively practice laming and edgeguarding tricks, and are actually pretty good at it. I think I'm pretty good at edgeguarding as well, but that's all about that...

I think that Luma is too.. reckless most of the time, judging from the parts where I actually concentrated on watching the videos. I mean, it seems to me that he would have been shieldgrabbed way too many times if his opponent had had his shield up at the time, which in my opinion he should have. I think Luma should try to grab more, although Sheik admittably can't combo Fox out of Down Throw, nor can she really combo him out of Up Throw either. If anyone cares(Which I seriously doubt), I usually Down Throw Fox if I am facing the edge of the stage and it would be easy to tech-chase them. If not, I'd just Up Throw
into platform tech chase or something.

Yeah whatever, hopefully I can play against Luma or Ravenlord soon. I only know Luma barely beat a player I am better than at RoX, but that says nothing. More stuff later, possibly.

/End lame wannabepro-English. Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes, now that would be embarrassing. =P

 

[Luma]

well i just played with a broken controller, thats why i sucked @ rox4 =D
(why didnt we played at rox btw? ^^ and what player do u mean? wmk?)

 

[Ijuka]

well i just played with a broken controller, thats why i sucked @ rox4 =D
(why didnt we played at rox btw? ^^ and what player do u mean? wmk?)

Doesn't matter, I beat every player other than Peki. =)

And I know how that is, I've been playing with a crappy controller for like 2 months now.