New/Old(?) DK "technique"

Luigi player · Nov 19, 2008

Well I'm sure most DKs should know about this, but maybe not all do so...

Just look at the video:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=BHk6fuPYS9Q

Yeah well basically you use your upB at a platform to go down and then you're lagless/nearly lagless and could maybe surprise your opponent with an attack.

(You shouldn't do it if your opponent is right below you...)

Sorry if it's old or something =/ (but even if it is, does it have a name yet? If not we should probably think of something ^^)

crifer · Nov 19, 2008

hey luigi,
i sometimes did this,
but idk if this is really known...

Luigi player · Nov 19, 2008

crifer said:
hey luigi,
i sometimes did this,
but idk if this is really known...

Yeah it probably is, but I never saw someone doing it.. so I wasn't really sure ^^

Mith_ · Nov 19, 2008

That's pretty amazing. I've never tried that before. Good find

ph00tbag · Nov 19, 2008

I'd thought about using something like this before, but I hadn't really gotten around to seeing what it does. Neat idea.

magikguy · Nov 19, 2008

i havent hard about that , great way to surprise somebody . good find

Luigi player · Nov 19, 2008

Thanks guys.

You can do this at nearly every stage.

The only ones where you can't do it anywhere are:
FD
Corneria
Bridge of Eldin

I think I tested all other stages and it is always possible somewhere on the stage. ^^

Delfino is a really nice one, because there are many possibilities where you can use it (I also found out about it there).

OmniOstrich · Nov 19, 2008

I've known about this, but it's generally better practice to just drop through and bair, I don't generally like to approach with ^B because it isn't disjointed.

Tujex · Nov 19, 2008

But eventually your opponents going to begin to see through Bair's and be on the lookout for it. This is a nice surprise attack to throw into the mix of Bair's/SideB's we use to approach.

powuh_of_PIE · Nov 19, 2008

I guess it's good as a surprise, but if I saw someone doing it consistently, sliding Usmashes (especially from people like Sheik, Snake, etc with mean DACUSes) would destroy it. Good find tho, I should try using this in a match to see how it goes IRL

Luigi player · Nov 19, 2008

Yeah nothing is good if you do it all the time... but it can mix up your game every now and then or something.

Donkey Bong · Nov 19, 2008

i'd never seen the up b go down before, interesting for sure
good find

Veggi · Nov 19, 2008

The only place I use this is on jungle japes and itLs totally beast.

OmniOstrich · Nov 19, 2008

Tujex said:
But eventually your opponents going to begin to see through Bair's and be on the lookout for it. This is a nice surprise attack to throw into the mix of Bair's/SideB's we use to approach.

thats what spacing is for, just make sure to use the full range of bair and they cant shield grab if you only do one then you can autocancel into tilts and once they are offstage no more approaching to worry about.

Veggi said:
The only place I use this is on jungle japes and itLs totally beast.

I do use it on japes occasionally, and i want to say I remember doing it on Norfair?

Jmex · Nov 19, 2008

This is nice. You can also use this to grab the ledge, although i dont think that would be the safest approach.

i1337 · Nov 19, 2008

great find

Mr.Victory07 · Nov 19, 2008

thats really cool, maybe mindgames/edguard?

Donkey Bong · Nov 20, 2008

i tried doing it today but i didnt time it right and ended up with the heavy lag landing animation, so dont mess it up if you're gonna try it!

Luigi player · Nov 20, 2008

Donkey Bong said:
i tried doing it today but i didnt time it right and ended up with the heavy lag landing animation, so dont mess it up if you're gonna try it!

Yeah if the ground below you on which you want to land is not too far down you should probably stay a bit on the platform during your upB.

itsthebigfoot · Nov 20, 2008

yeah, this is old news, i think kyle wattula found it way back when

i1337 · Nov 20, 2008

zomg 777 posts!! ^^

Jmex · Nov 20, 2008

IM about to have 666 post! :evil:

Veggi · Nov 20, 2008

Dude you should have like taken a screenshot or something.

KoSa! · Nov 20, 2008

You can do it on every stage, that has an edge. Just run off doing an UpB, then return back to the stage.

i1337 · Nov 20, 2008

awww i should have :'(

ssbbFICTION · Nov 20, 2008

Lol i use this all the time and I dont main dk

Veggi · Nov 20, 2008

KoSa! said:
You can do it on every stage, that has an edge. Just run off doing an UpB, then return back to the stage.

I remember doing that, it feels so wierd for some reason. I think it could probably be used to keep people from sweetspotting the edge, sort of like doing it after a ledge drop?

Tom · Nov 20, 2008

This was in my combo video that came out seven months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKV6B7Cmlc

Ragnar0k · Nov 20, 2008

Tom nom nom nom! said:
This was in my combo video that came out seven months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKV6B7Cmlc

Tom I didn't I just watched your video and what is in your video isn't what he's referring too. We all know about the lagless up b. Luigi is talking about a falling lagless up b from a platform to the ground below it. His is just a more specific version of it.

Tom · Nov 21, 2008

he's just using the same technique but in a different direction. its the same principle, theres no new discovery. i know plenty of people who have done it =/

powuh_of_PIE · Nov 21, 2008

Tom nom nom nom! said:
he's just using the same technique but in a different direction. its the same principle, theres no new discovery. i know plenty of people who have done it =/

and as you can see by this post, there are many more who haven't yet. It's not a good idea to discourage possible progress in someone's metagame for fear of "everyone probably knows this already, i don't wanna sound like a scrub". Sure, this one may not be game-changing, but it's not in the spirit of progress to sit there and discount anyone's discovery.

Luigi player · Nov 21, 2008

Yeah I thought it wouldn't be anything new to some people, but I have never seen someone doing it so I thought I'll just post it.

KoSa! said:
You can do it on every stage, that has an edge. Just run off doing an UpB, then return back to the stage.

Um yeah but that's not what my thread is about. It's about the laglass landing and that you can move down using your upB and such.

Tom · Nov 21, 2008

powuh_of_PIE said:
and as you can see by this post, there are many more who haven't yet. It's not a good idea to discourage possible progress in someone's metagame for fear of "everyone probably knows this already, i don't wanna sound like a scrub". Sure, this one may not be game-changing, but it's not in the spirit of progress to sit there and discount anyone's discovery.

I'm just telling him how old it is. I'm not telling him he sucks for not knowing about it.

D.L.Y.L. · Apr 25, 2010

that was a great find pimp

xoxokev · Apr 26, 2010

wow, super bump

ZxChrono · Apr 27, 2010

lol wtf, leave it to the rookie to bump a year old thread.

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