New Sheik Catalog

[saviorslegacy]

I go to find something about Sheik and I find myself prowling through old threads trying to find links or looking several pages back!
Enough with that.

So I'm making a new catalog for us to help organization.

Sheik Boards Catalog

Hi and welcome to the Sheik Boards. This directory will help you navigate the boards and help you find information faster.

Link to original thread- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=218458

-Sheik Guides-
Project Know it All- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248288 by: East
This is a very cool thread. Not only does it show frame data but it goes over an analysis of each move.
A recommended must read.

A Guide to Sheik and Zelda- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179565 by: Sinkinghigher
An old Guide to Sheik/Zelda.
A recommended read all the same.

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f-tilt set ups- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175241 by: Tristan_Win
In this thread Tristan shows us f-tilt advantages,what combo's and when on EVERY character.
A must read for any real/serious Sheik main.

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-Chain-
In depth guide to the Chain- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178812 by: Stealthsushi
An advance Chain guide showing how to lock, reverse lock and Chain Jacket.

Research on the Chain- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=249434 by: saviorslegacy
A thread showing what each jacketed move does. It also has a video showing the exact timing of a Chain Jacket.

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Vanish testing- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167722
Vanish testing #2- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=168619 By: Tristan_Win
Tristan talks about some interesting stuff on the Vanish.
To see what he is talking about watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUP7i8vjflk

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Grab Release Combo's- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=249620 by: j0s3ph
A thread talking about Sheik's Grab Release combo's.

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Kill Percents- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248776 by: j0s3ph
A thread that shows killing percents of Sheiks kill moves.

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Sheiks DASC- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246163by: saviorslegacy
This thread shows Sheiks options out of a DASC.

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Needle Boosting- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=247883 by: saviorslegacy
This is basically B-sticking the manual way. Worth a try though since it does help your spacing game.

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How to cower- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246409by: saviorslegacy
This is useless most of the time but it can be helpful from time to time.

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Bair edge guarding- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=244678 by: Leafplayer452
This shows a new ledge tech. Worth trying since it helps your edge game.

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One Step Closer- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214908 by: Tristan_Win
Tristan talks about how Fair helps our recovery.

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FSmash testing- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=170705 by: Tristan_Win
Tristan talks about how useful the FSmash is.

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What I'm thinking about right now- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=238873 by: Charoo
A thread showing many useful options.

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Saltus Combo- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234716 by: saviorslegacy
If you heard something about Sheik hype it was probably because of this thread.

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A Community Guide- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=219349 by: Blistering Speed
In depth information on some of Sheiks moves.

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Rebellion- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231373by: saviorslegacy
A guide showing combo's and decay combo.
(In desperate need for a tune up.)

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Shield pressuring for dummies- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=171825 By: Ankoku
The title says it all.

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F-tilt Lock- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172012 by: Ankoku
All Sheiks need to memorize tilt lock percents.

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F-tilt combo's- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199888 by: Ankoku
A good read that all Sheiks should know.

Un-dedicated- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246603 by: Ankoku
This thread will help you in finding an alt.

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The way the future may go- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=247621 by: saviorslegacy
Some people are talking about items being used in tournies. This thread shows basic item use.
If items do become legit to be used in a tournament then this thread will be remade.

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A Comprehensive Guide to Brawl's AT's- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187873 by: Vyse
Prowl through here and see if there is anything worth putting into your game.

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How to DI- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=221969 by: Swordgard
Sheik is light so learning how to DI is VERY important.

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Sheik's Crawl Dash- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=170682 by: God-is-my-Rock
Not the most useful thing in the world but worth looking into.

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Stage Counterpicks- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=209676 by: Werekill
An unfinished thread showing counterpick stages.

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Sheiks weakness's- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=235419 by: saviorslegacy
Yep, the title says it all. Luckily we also talk about over coming them too.

Sheiks Priority- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=249287 by: saviorslegacy
A thread was made about how priority wasn't real. So I ran some tests and made this.
Scrubs have mentioned before that Sheik has low priority. This should prove that they are indeed wrong.

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Improving Sheiks Match Ups- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=249062 by: saviorslegacy
Some idea's on how to beat Sheik's worst match ups.
Please bring your idea's here on her bad match ups.

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A project coming to an end and to begin- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248545 by: saviorslegacy
There is controversy about the contents but it is worth a read.

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A few thoughts on Sheik- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=244579 by: Marsulas
A good read and an eye opener to new people.

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How to **** with Sheik- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251828 by: choknater
Some cool advice

 

[Leafplayer452]

Cool thread of threads lol, and anyone know a mod that can change names? I wanna take the numbers out of my name

 

[saviorslegacy]

Cool thread of threads lol, and anyone know a mod that can change names? I wanna take the numbers out of my name

TY

Ask theBuzzsaw. He is a pretty nice guy and I'm sure he will help you.

 

[Luxor]

Nice, this has just about everything.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Nice, this has just about everything.

Everything except for obvious sticky threads (I put the guides in here anyways).

 

[j0s3ph]

Good work, the old catalog needed to be updated massively
I think you should remove the pics or at least make them smaller though

 

[saviorslegacy]

Good work, the old catalog needed to be updated massively
I think you should remove the pics or at least make them smaller though

I agree, 2 maybe 3 pics are to large.

I'll make them a lot smaller later.

 

[Tristan_win]

f-tilt set ups- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175241 by: Tristan_Win
This thread explains how you can get confused by starring at a bunch of numbers for a long time. No wait, it doesn't explain that. You just stare at the numbers for a long time in shock that someone actually took the time to confuse you more than what you already are.
(Will edit with correct info after I get flamed by Tristan.)

-,- ...Really? I come back from halo to have my greatest work teased. The data is very confusing I'll admit it but if you guys gave me some **** feed back I would be more then glad to dumb it down ..AGAIN and AGAIN until people can understand it or at least talk to each and everyone of the people trying to use it until they understand it.

If you can't think what to put then put.
"So you got your Ftilt-Lock down huh? Not sure what you can do to follow it up though, take a peek in on this thread for some ideas."

Also ankoku ftilt lock thread is outdated and more importantly not 100% correct. Meanwhile the other chart I have in my thread is 100% correct for fresh ftilt which is what ankoku thread was all about in the first place.


Also add
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=170705

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214908

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=168619
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167722

edit: you know what, I can play games too, bye data

 

[saviorslegacy]

f-tilt set ups- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175241 by: Tristan_Win
This thread explains how you can get confused by starring at a bunch of numbers for a long time. No wait, it doesn't explain that. You just stare at the numbers for a long time in shock that someone actually took the time to confuse you more than what you already are.
(Will edit with correct info after I get flamed by Tristan.)

-,- ...Really? I come back from halo to have my greatest work teased. The data is very confusing I'll admit it but if you guys gave me some **** feed back I would be more then glad to dumb it down ..AGAIN and AGAIN until people can understand it or at least talk to each and everyone of the people trying to use it until they understand it.

If you can't think what to put then put.
"So you got your Ftilt-Lock down huh? Not sure what you can do to follow it up though, take a peek in on this thread for some ideas."

Also ankoku ftilt lock thread is outdated and more importantly not 100% correct. Meanwhile the other chart I have in my thread is 100% correct for fresh ftilt which is what ankoku thread was all about in the first place.


Also add
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=170705

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214908

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=168619
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167722

edit: you know what, I can play games too, bye data

Hey hey hey hey hey... I'm not done memorizing that thread. Put the numbers back on there.

K, I'll remove Ankoku's thread after you finish yours (since it has a rough estimate on when you can f-tilt lock). Yours need to have its data back though. <,<


Oh, and that was a joke (even though you already know that).
Why do I feel like I'm getting pranked?

 

[Tristan_win]

Well I had my fun, I can't do it this exact second but I'll bring back my data later on tonight and then work on down grading it again.

Basically instead of showing how many frame adventage you get I'm just going to list options for example instead of having 2 frame adv I'll write

"Jab"
"Shield"

I'll also remove all the frame data between the attacks so instead of -1 0 1 2 3 4 you will have

-X_ jab__ Dsmash
__Shield__ Jump

There will also be jump+ aerial, and all of which will be color coded. I might even make watermarks with all of them with the Character in the background of the chart.

~sighs~

I'm thinking by doing this the chart will only be 1/3 as useful as the original data but oh well people don't like doing math while they play a game and when they look at the charts they think they have to memorize them.

which you don't.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Well I had my fun, I can't do it this exact second but I'll bring back my data later on tonight and then work on down grading it again.

Basically instead of showing how many frame adventage you get I'm just going to list options for example instead of having 2 frame adv I'll write

"Jab"
"Shield"

I'll also remove all the frame data between the attacks so instead of -1 0 1 2 3 4 you will have

-X_ jab__ Dsmash
__Shield__ Jump

There will also be jump+ aerial, and all of which will be color coded. I might even make watermarks with all of them with the Character in the background of the chart.

~sighs~

I'm thinking by doing this the chart will only be 1/3 as useful as the original data but oh well people don't like doing math while they play a game and when they look at the charts they think they have to memorize them.

which you don't.

This is true, I hate math. I have gotten pretty good at percentages though since I started doing decay in my head.

I like your new idea BTW.

 

[stealth3654]

Saviors, post these images from the old thread into the OP.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Saviors, post these images from the old thread into the OP.

That was in the last one......

*stares... "soooooo prettyyy....."

 

[JackieRabbit5]

Sheik DACUS video tutorial?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_CHWI4IXSw

i'm still around just so u guys know heh...I met Cross at Phase 5 last weekend, his Sheik is near Lights level i think, and i've seen him play too at Hobo before.
and me well i'm starting to get more tourney experience now xp

i've lost to Ike in tourney twice now hmm, at least a beat an MK main. I went all sheik btw


and lol at saviors description of tristan ftilt chart

 

[Voyeur]

kek well nice to see you took up what I left here then.

Thank you Savior.

 

[Tristan_win]

Savior retired Voyeur.

 

[Zankoku]

Retired? Wouldn't that imply he actually went to tournaments before?

 

[Tristan_win]

Heh, it's true he never did compete with Sheik but he was a Sheik scientist. I also respect his efforts in bettering Sheik so I used a weaker word then just quit.

 

[Voyeur]

ahh, well I'm back as back can be off and on. Lurking More, talking less.

:]

Not one to really be able to help you all much at all, so better to be quiet and try and learn <333