PM specific fox tech

[Klemes]

Hi . I don't see a General fox discussion thread for PM, so I guess it's fine to create a threat for this.

I'm from Melee, I haven't practiced any PM tech like DACUS b-reverse etc. I wanted to know if there is anything interesting fox can do in PM that you can't in Melee. Thanks !

 

[Klemes]

up ? anyone ?

 

[nimigoha]

There's a two frame window to grab ledge out of Illusion from on stage. Use Illusion on your first or second airborne frame after a jump and if you're the right distance away you'll end up just offstage and then grab ledge.

RAR is probably the most important change for Fox. Using Shine to turn around for a Bair is much worse since you lose horizontal momentum.

I'm sure that if certain characters DI Uthrow far to the side to do the SDI you can catch them with a RAR Uair and now they're SDIing into the second hit instead of away from it.

 

[Denjinpachi]

DACUS is neat, if you like to be sneaky, and can manage the follow up/read

 

[Klemes]

nice. how do you RAR ? and DACUS ?

 

[nimigoha]

DACUS isn't any good for Fox. Good for Falco though.

To RAR, run in a direction, hit the other direction to turn around, IMMEDIATELY press jump and AS SOON AS YOU DO push the stick back in the original direction. What this does is turn you around while you're running, making you jump in that direction but facing the opposite way, and the last stick push back to the original direction will keep your momentum.

(as long as you're running) with the last three done as close together as possible.

Or



Note that you have to be running for it to work. If you're dashing then you'll dash dance.

The idea is to jump out of the laggy run turnaround animation.

 

[Klemes]

Cool, I take it it's most useful to throw out a back air far away and fast, like for an edgeguard. This replaces conviniently the moonwalk > bair (not that I was good at it anyway).
Any other uses for it ?

 

[nimigoha]

Yeah that's it. Bair is just so good and being able to move it its direction really fast is so good.

You can RAR before an Uair to mix up the direction they're meant to SDI.

 

[Denjinpachi]

RAR U-Air mix up. 2 deadly 4 m3

 

[OrientalAmazing]

Yeah RAR is like an easy moonwalk. Another unserused (and a bit unpractical) fox combo is Shine into footstool