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Pokemon Trainer's Gym Prep Guide: Discussion #1 Bowser

Bomber7

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I was browsing AIB the other day and found a nifty character discussion thread on the Zelda boards. What caught my eye was they had information on how to fight other characters: Offensively, Defensively, or both. I figured, why not apply it to Pokemon Trainer. I know we have a match-up thread and a starter choosing thread but I think rather than answering the "what" and "who" of a match-up, we will answer the "how".

How to Read the Chart:
-Play Offensively

-Play Defensively

-Play a mix of Offensively and Defensively

I know I don't have room to put symbols for all 3 pokemon. So after each discussion I will put the symbol on the chart that best evaluates how you need to play overall; similar to us calculating the overall match-up ratio. However I will have symbols for each pokemon which will be seen below for that character discussion.

:bowser2: Bowser

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:


:falcon: Cpt. Falcon

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:


:diddy: Ditty Kong

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:dk2: Donkey Kong

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:falco: Falco

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:fox: Fox

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:gw: Mr. Game&Watch

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:ganondorf: Ganondorf

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:popo: IceClimbers

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:ike: Ike

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:jigglypuff: Jigglypuff

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:dedede: King DeDeDe

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:kirby2: Kirby

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:link2: Link

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:lucario: Lucario

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:lucas: Lucas

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:luigi2: Luigi

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:mario2: Mario

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:marth: Marth

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:metaknight: Metaknight

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:ness2: Ness

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:olimar: Olimar

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:peach: Peach

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:pikachu2: Pikachu

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:pit: Pit

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:rob: R.O.B

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:samus2: Samus

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:shiek: Shiek

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:snake: Snake

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:sonic: Sonic

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:toonlink: Toon Link

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:warioc: Wario

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:wolf: Wolf

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:yoshi2: Yoshi

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:zelda: Zelda

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:

:zerosuitsamus: Zerosuit Samus

:squirtle:
:ivysaur:
:charizard:



Yes, I am the guy who tells you what pokemon to use and stalks you.
 

Zigsta

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Seems like a cool idea.

Could use a better title, though.
 

Bomber7

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Seems like a cool idea.

Could use a better title, though.
Yeah title sucks but I will fix that in time. I'm actually starting to wonder if I really did just dream this thing up, which would be obscure because I remember them having entries for Wario and Olimar. There is no way I could remember that much in a dream that specific.
 

T-block

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Eh...sorry Bomber, I'm not sure I like the idea as it is. Seems like it's oversimplifying matchups, especially when PT has more to think about in deciding to be offensive/defensive with the stamina factor. Perhaps a bit of refinement?
 

Bomber7

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Eh...sorry Bomber, I'm not sure I like the idea as it is. Seems like it's oversimplifying matchups, especially when PT has more to think about in deciding to be offensive/defensive with the stamina factor. Perhaps a bit of refinement?
any recommendation?
 

T-block

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Not sure... I tried to think of one when I made that post, but anything I thought of ended up becoming a matchup discussion.

Speaking of which, I'm going to kickstart those soon.
 

Bomber7

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Not sure... I tried to think of one when I made that post, but anything I thought of ended up becoming a matchup discussion.

Speaking of which, I'm going to kickstart those soon.
well if worst comes to worst, I will just ask this thread be deleted.
 

Ingoro

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Hmm, it should perhaps have more thought. People are lazy to read the MU's of every single character for every 3. this thread could perhaps be used as a quick glance by people for their upcomming battle.
 

Bomber7

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Hmm, it should perhaps have more thought. People are lazy to read the MU's of every single character for every 3. this thread could perhaps be used as a quick glance by people for their upcomming battle.
Quite honestly, Brawl as a whole is a very defensive game. It's full of baiting your opponent, having them make the first move so you can counter and punish, spot dodging, dodge-rolling and shielding. As such the matches become longer and longer and running out the clock or almost running out the clock become more common. More or less why Battle for the South was sooooo incredibly long. They said never again will they have Brawl for Battle for the South lol. All because grand finals were ridiculous.

Edit: plus with all the views this thread has had, if it was something that could be developed then it would be. Unless I start getting output and people willing to talk, I ask that by the end of this week (Sunday) that this thread be deleted.
 

CHOMPY

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This should be considered Match-up Chart discussion, imo.

I also think that we can be specific as to how we should play "Offensively" or "Defensivly".

Good idea, Bomber!
 

Bomber7

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Discussion #1: Bowser

Well I might as well attempt to start so if you have any output for this then lets get on with it.

First up is King Kuppa (Zigsta, be prepared)
 
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