Porky Minch: The King of New Pork City

[jamesster445]

Who Is Porky
Porky Minch is a primary antagonist in both Earthbound and its sequel Mother 3. He quickly works against Ness and join Gygas. Somewhere in between the events of the two games Porky became immortal and became a dictator that would go on to ruin the lifestyle of Lucas's town in the Nowhere Islands.

Why?
Porky is easily recognized as the defining villain of the Mother series. While he's not the primary villain of Mother 1 or Mother 2. But Mother 2 introduced him as the dragon and Giygas's right hand. What's more Porky is seen through the game causing trouble for Ness and company. He's a villain that the player devlops a relationship with which is something that Sakurai likes. Porky does return as the mastermind behind Mother 3 and while his appearances aren't nearly as numerous, his influece is clearly seen. And once again he is a direct cause of strife for Lucas and company. Porky also has a little more personality when compared to other Mother villains.

Movesets
By ZenythSmash

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Moveset by jamesster445

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There has been a outcry of a certain character archetype for Smash Bros during the Wii U era and even now as we enter the Switch era. “Smash needs more villains and it needs more heavyweights.” Because of this, two names always pop up. Ridley from the Metroid series (who was recently confirmed) and King K.Rool of the Donkey Kong series. And Both are fine choices and there’s some commonality between them. They only had 2 reps and they were both heroes. But there was a third series that followed that same commonality but never got the same recognition. Which is sad, because the villain we’re talking about might be the most despicable villain Nintendo has ever published and more importantly, this villain has actually been in Smash before.

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Special shout out to Dalek_Kolt for his Porky sprites.

Pig mask Army

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Zeox
Zerp
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Vingag
TCT~Phantom
T ThoughtfulWanderer
DNeon
ZenythSmash
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E Eureka -Herald
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H Hero044
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M Multi-bottle Thief
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T Toucan_Man
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R RetrogamerMax
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S SEGAGameBoy
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Discuss

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I support Porky, as log as he gets his "Spankety Spankety Spankety" taunt.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Made a wishlist post

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[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Please do not post image-only posts. Put some words in and explain a bit.

 

[Jeck]

Porky is just a dynamite pick across the board.

• Main villain of a woefully ignored franchise with a rep as far back as Smash 64.
• Has excellent map potential (New Pork City, Fourside, etc).
• Some of the best dictator boss theme music period.
• Totally variable options for size, controlling a mech/exo-suit etc.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Did a size comparison thingy.

 

[MysticKnives]

I don't know if I'd say Mother is ignored. It gets a fair amount of love each game I feel. But I'd love to have Porky in there. He'd be a pretty cool and interesting character to play as, and I'd love playing him with his "Porky Means Business" theme playing.

 

[verysleepywolf]

Porky is the best choice for a Mother villain as far as importance and uniqueness. Claus seems far more popular, however, and is probably easier to program. But Porky could finally bring a mech moveset into SSB too.

Count me as a Porky supporter, but I wouldn't be mad if it were Claus instead.

 

[jamesster445]

Did a size comparison thingy.
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I like this. I do suggest putting the newcomers in a side profile view if this is for size comparisons

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I like this. I do suggest putting the newcomers in a side profile view if this is for size comparisons

Didn't draw a side shot of the character in question, but this is what I got.

 

[SEGAGameBoy]

I've never played a Mother/Earthbound game, before but I would love to see Porky in it. Add me to the supporters, please.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Thoughts on the bedmech being an alternate costume to the heavily armed mech?

 

[verysleepywolf]

Thoughts on the bedmech being an alternate costume to the heavily armed mech?

That would require animations be changed between swaps, which so far hasn't been done with any other character. Because Porky would be lying down in his preserved state as opposed to working knobs/levers, grinning mischeviously, etc. I myself would personally prefer if they used the EarthBound mech, with some squash-and-stretch liberties taken in its animations to imply it's not a mechanical device (and to prevent movements from being stiff).

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Figured it was worth asking since the bed mech and heavily armed mech are pretty similar in shape. They could definitely be convergent clones at least.
Anyway, side view.

Updated my side view.

 

[Jeck]

It also helps to remember that Ness is skinnier and barely taller than Kirby, so Porky fits in that context.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Done with Porky for now.

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@Sage of Ice

 

[Zeox]

I support this, beated for the first time Earthbound 2 days ago and now I'm playing Mother 3 (already got spoiled of Porky stuff in this game), honestly Porky kinda reminds me of Eric Cartman from South Park
Smash needs more villains, and Porky will be a great adition to the roaster.
+ Bowser Jr. is a good example of characters in mechas, so is not impossible to imagine him in his spider robot.
+ he would be a new character from one of the original franchises from Smash 64.
+ he was already in brawl as a boss
+ great personality, love to hate him
+ kickass music theme
Any ideas of what his final smash would be?

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Any ideas of what his final smash would be?

 

[Zeox]

YES! that would be a great way to have both Earthbound villains in one character! love it!

 

[Zerp]

I support the most clever, most charming, and most trouble-making boy ever... Master Porky Minch!


Also, here's a support icon I made for the great pig king.

I support this, beated for the first time Earthbound 2 days ago and now I'm playing Mother 3 (already got spoiled of Porky stuff in this game), honestly Porky kinda reminds me of Eric Cartman from South Park
Smash needs more villains, and Porky will be a great adition to the roaster.
+ Bowser Jr. is a good example of characters in mechas, so is not impossible to imagine him in his spider robot.
+ he would be a new character from one of the original franchises from Smash 64.
+ he was already in brawl as a boss
+ great personality, love to hate him
+ kickass music theme
Any ideas of what his final smash would be?

This is what I'd expect, although I do think the Devil's Machine and Giygas would be ten thousand times cooler.

 

[Peridorito]

I love Earthbound and would be happy with any new character from the series, and I think Porky has the most moveset potential out of the major ones. I support.

 

[Zeox]

This is the kind of voice that I imagine Porky have:

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Edit: thinking about it, Porky would be the best new Mother character because he is the only character that knows not only Ness, but Lucas too, he has been a villain and a rival for both of them.
Also, here is Itoi talking about Porky and his opinions about the character:
http://mother3.fobby.net/interview/m3int_09.html

 

[Vingag]

100% I support Porky for Smash. He's a great villain, Mother character, and would allow for us to fight with a giant spider robot. Also: It could mean we'd finally get an official Mother 3 translation in the states. Or, better yet, a new Mother game? Sure, call me Pollyanna and say I'm crazy as a loon...

 

[TCT~Phantom]

I support Porky, I would love to have him as a mech based fighter with all sorts of cool attacks in his mech, if the imgur leak is true having Porky would be sick.

 

[ThoughtfulWanderer]

As a huge EarthBound fanboy, I'm all for more series representation. If there were some world where Porky was playable and Ninten could at least be a costume, I would want to be a part of it. Spankety spankety spankety! Add me to the support list.

 

[Zeox]

At least 3 mother stages are confirmed from this video.
Onett, magicant and NEW PORK!
which don't mean anything, but just saying... right now there are more mother stages than mother characters.

 

[Jeck]

Knew you guys would be happy to see that! Magicant doesn't look too different except now it might be tourney legal... and that polycount! Yay.

 

[jamesster445]

At this point his chances are probably 50-50. Sakurai said he's not trying to add too many characters since the roster already is at 66 characters. Then again Ridley and Bowser jr should prove that Porky can be done.

 

[Zeox]

At this point his chances are probably 50-50. Sakurai said he's not trying to add too many characters since the roster already is at 66 characters. Then again Ridley and Bowser jr should prove that Porky can be done.

Ridley and Porky were the only bosses from subspace emissary that were main villains and very important characters from their respective franchises.
Ridley did it, now I believe is Porky's time.

 

[ThoughtfulWanderer]

At least 3 mother stages are confirmed from this video.
Onett, magicant and NEW PORK!
which don't mean anything, but just saying... right now there are more mother stages than mother characters.

4, actually! Fourside's returned as well, which means every Mother stage is all here in one game.

 

[Zeox]

4, actually! Fourside's returned as well, which means every Mother stage is all here in one game.

This smash is not just smash 5, is a celebration of all the past smash games and that's awesome.
Both Fourside and Pork city are perfect porky stages.

 

[DNeon]

Man I wish you guys the best for this. More villains are always welcome, as well as more unique heavies. With one boss coming back and his signature stage he could well make the transition from boss to playable. I'll follow this until he gets confirmed or disconfirmed.

 

[Zeox]

Man I wish you guys the best for this. More villains are always welcome, as well as more unique heavies. With one boss coming back and his signature stage he could well make the transition from boss to playable.

If it doesn't happens at least I will have Ridley with me, but god, if Porky is also playable in smash I never ask Sakurai for anything never again.

 

[ZenythSmash]

Thoughts on the bedmech being an alternate costume to the heavily armed mech?
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it'd probably gonna take a lot of dev work, but i'd like to see an attempt to that

Any ideas of what his final smash would be?

if you look at the hypothetical moveset sheet i made for Porky, there's some nifty ideas that could be used

literally done this during the ballot via the late Smash 3DS/WiiU days. the top is all his source material for what he really needs in his moveset.
you may use it for the OP if needed
credit to Tonberry2k for doing the original sprites for an old and dead Super Smash Bros Project at the TVGR forums (wish i could obligate him to complete it ;v; )

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

LOL, with that Porkybot I wonder if they could somehow make him a Bowser Jr clone

 

[jamesster445]

it'd probably gonna take a lot of dev work, but i'd like to see an attempt to that

if you look at the hypothetical moveset sheet i made for Porky, there's some nifty ideas that could be used
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literally done this during the ballot via the late Smash 3DS/WiiU days. the top is all his source material for what he really needs in his moveset.
you may use it for the OP if needed
credit to Tonberry2k for doing the original sprites for an old and dead Super Smash Bros Project at the TVGR forums (wish i could obligate him to complete it ;v; )

This is great, I will definitely add this to the OP.

LOL, with that Porkybot I wonder if they could somehow make him a Bowser Jr clone

To be fair I think people opened up more to Porky as a mech fighter thanks to Bowser Jr. So the idea wouldn't be out of the question.

 

[ZenythSmash]

even then, a clone/echo of BJ wouldn't make any sense. plenty of distinct fighters use simliar but not the same specials, yes.
but what do you make out of a clown copter to a spider mecha?
a variation of a vehicular fighter does, however, does!

 

[Zeox]

LOL, with that Porkybot I wonder if they could somehow make him a Bowser Jr clone

No, but it could share some movesets, I can't see Porky's mech doing this:

But I can see things like having the attack of throwing mecha koopas and being replaced by Porkybots.

it'd probably gonna take a lot of dev work, but i'd like to see an attempt to that

if you look at the hypothetical moveset sheet i made for Porky, there's some nifty ideas that could be used
View attachment 150401
literally done this during the ballot via the late Smash 3DS/WiiU days. the top is all his source material for what he really needs in his moveset.
you may use it for the OP if needed
credit to Tonberry2k for doing the original sprites for an old and dead Super Smash Bros Project at the TVGR forums (wish i could obligate him to complete it ;v; )

Woah, I have to save that one, is awesome.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Anyone notice that Battle Against A Machine is a remix of Porky's theme?

 

[Peridorito]

Anyone notice that Battle Against A Machine is a remix of Porky's theme?

I knew Porky was secretly a robot all along.