Data Sheik Hitboxes and Frame Data

[Massive]

Credit for frame data goes to SuperDoodleMan.
The raw images were obtained from Stratocaster.
I made the gifs and compiled this thread.

Let me know if anything looks incorrect and I'll do my best to update/fix it.


Jab

Total: 17
Hit: 2-3
IASA: 16
Window for second jab: 3-25
Second slice begins: 10 (or later)

Jab 2

Total: 18
Hit: 3-5
IASA: 17
Window for jabs: 2-18
Rapid Jabs start: 10

Jab Rapid

Total: 55
Hit: 3-4, 7-8, etc.
IASA: Unknown
Jabs start: 10

Forward Tilt

Total: 29
Hit: 5-10
IASA: 27

Down Tilt

Total: 29
Hit: 5-8
IASA: 28

Up Tilt

Total: 33
Hit: 5-10, 19-24
IASA: 26

Forward Smash

Total: 50
Hit: 12, 27-29
Charge frame: 5
IASA: 46

Up Smash

Total: 47
Hit: 12, 14-16
Charge frame: 10
Head and forearms invincible: 12-16
IASA: 40

Down Smash

Total: 49
Hit: 5-9, 16-19, 22-24
Charge frame: 2
Legs invincible: 5
IASA: 46

Dash Attack

Total: 37
Hit: 6-12
IASA: 36

Neutral Aerial

Total: 48
Hit: 3-30
IASA: 42
Auto cancel: <2, >31
Landlag: 16
L canceled: 8

Up Aerial

Total: 39
Hit: 5-20
IASA: 37
Auto cancel: <4, >30
Landlag: 24
L canceled: 12

Back Aerial

Total: 37
Hit: 4-19
Auto cancel: <3, >25
Landlag: 16
L canceled: 8

Down Aerial

Total: 48
Hit: 15-33
Auto cancel: <2
Landlag: 20
L canceled: 10

Forward Air

Total: 33
Hit: 5-7
Auto cancel: <4, >11
Landlag: 16
L canceled: 8

Grab

Total: 30
Grab: 7-8

Running Grab

Total: 40
Grab: 8-9

Neutral B Charged

Holding 1st needle: 8
Set that frame as 1.
Another needle at 19
Set that as 1 (etc)
Releasing B at frame 1 counts with
new needle.

When you release B…
Needles released at 4, 7, 10, 13, 16,
19
Total: 40

Neutral B Aerial

Needles released at 11, 14, 17, 20,
23, 26
Auto cancels upon landing
Last frame: 39

Needles last 30 frames

Forward B

Comes out on 22
Fully extended at 34
Earliest retraction starts on 44

Upon B release…
Pullin hurt: 19-31 (sooner if
swingin)
Last frame: 41

Down B

Total: 62
Invulnerable: 27-36
First frame of Zelda: 37

(Zelda's Transform is not the same)

Up B

Total: 94
Hit: 36-42
Invincible: 18-55
The frame of choosing direction: 35
Landlag: 30
Landfallspeciallag: 4

Air Dodge

Invulnerable 4-29 out of 49

Spot Dodge

Invulnerable 2-15 out of 22

Roll Forward

Roll Back

Invulnerable 4-19 out of 31


Miscellaneous things with no images

Taunt

Total: 100
Hmm!: 23

Jump

Airborne on frame 4

Air time: 50
Earliest FF: 26
FF air time: 37

SH air time: 38
Earliest FF: 20
SH FF air time: 27

2nd jump earliest FF: 27

Ledge stand <100%

Total: 34
Invincible: 1-30

Ledge stand >100%

Total: 59
Invincible: 1-55

Ledge roll <100%

Total: 49
Invincible: 1-39

Ledge roll >100%

Total: 79
Invincible: 1-71

Ledge attack <100%

Total: 54
Invulnerable: 1-21
Hit: 25-34

Ledge attack >100%

Total: 69
Invulnerable: 1-53
Hit: 57-59

Ledge jump <100%

Total: 57
Invulnerable: 1-14
Soonest FF: 40

Ledge jump >100%

Total: 57
Invincible: 1-19
Soonest FF: 45

Landing lag: 4

Dash becomes run at frame 8

Turn-jump Threshold: 21

Run turnaround: 21

 

[mr.fizwidget]

good shiz

 

[Teczer0]

Freakin awesome xD

*sticky*

 

[Teczer0]

I was gonna wait until someone said something but holy hell why does ftilt reach up so far.

God, I love sheik <3333333

 

[stelzig]

<3 That fair

 

[KirbyKaze]

oh up tilt

let's never fight again

<3

 

[Kaffei]

Omg I love Sheik

 

[Wenbobular]

As a Falcon main Uptilt disgusts me

 

[AlcyoNite]

subscribed

thank you!

 

[Awstintacious]

what does IASA mean, and in the standing grab, what is that almost orange color? Also, what is the speciallandinglag in the up-b part.

 

[Walt]

IASA = Interruptible As Soon As: you'll notice on the first jab, which has a total animation frame count of 17 frames, and its IASA frame on frame 16, which means during the 17 frame animation you can Interrupt (jab) As Soon As frame 16 to start doing another move. It's basically saving you one frame in this case. 1 frame isn't very much but utilt, and usmash both have IASA frames start 7 frames before the total animation finishes, which is about as much lag as a fast aerial. So it really adds up and increases your combo chance by quite a bit.

 

[Pikaville]

Now I understand how those weird backwards fairs happen.

Look at that hitbox above and kinda behind her!

 

[Teczer0]

Now I understand how those weird backwards fairs happen.

Look at that hitbox above and kinda behind her!

After seeing it I realize why people say aim the backward fair with her shoulder.

Seems to be the easiest spot to hit the fair with xD

 

[JrJet]

Nair hits from anywhere <3

 

[Pikaville]

Is that a grab hitbox I see behind Sheik for her running grab?

 

[JrJet]

Yes her dash grab grabs behind her too

 

[Pikaville]

Man everything makes so much sense now.

 

[soap]

the standing needles look pretty cool in hitbox form

 

[Nine]

OMG finally frame data for melee :D thanks i can already see this to improve my sheik even more!

 

[bubbaking]

This may be a bump, but I was wondering if the creator of this thread had any frame data on Sheik's techs and her wall jump.

Dang, why does that utilt have to cover a whole semicircle. It even hits BEHIND her on the ground a bit. O_O

As a Falcon main Uptilt disgusts me

Lolz, doesn't Falcon have a similar utilt w/ much better knockback and a better low hitbox that's great for gimping?

 

[Strong Badam]

Wall jump: Invincible frame 1-14. IASA: 1
Tech data here.

 

[bubbaking]

Wow, thanks! =D Wait, what? Wall jumps are invincible?!? O_o

 

[Mattnumbers]

What are the frames on her throws? When is the first frame that the enemy can act after being dthrown?

 

[bubbaking]

Frame 9,000

 

[Fly_Amanita]

^ A throw that takes 150 seconds would be a pretty awesome stalling tactic.

 

[gm jack]

What are the frames on her throws? When is the first frame that the enemy can act after being dthrown?

The throw hitstun is going to be hugely character and percentage dependent. However, the uses and combo opportunities of them (esp NTSC dthrow) have been explored for years, so your options from it are well known.

KK has a really good post on what to do against Marth stickied, which should give you an idea of what can be done, although that changes between characters.

 

[Strong Badam]

Throw hitstun is not character dependent, btw. Percentage dependent only.

Throw frame data is hard because a lot of throws take longer or shorter based on the opponent's weight. Try Fox's uthrow against Bowser and compare it to against G&W or Puff, for instance.

 

[gm jack]

My bad. I jumped the gun straight to what affects what can be comboed off a throw, which is heavily influenced by fall speed.

 

[bubbaking]

Don't know much about exact frame data (Strong Bad seems to be the expert in those), but I have a general idea for what Sheik can do off of dthrow on all the cast. On fast fallers, it's dthrow>tech chase. "Normals" (like herself), dthrow CG dependent on DI or dthrow>ftilt. Floaties, dthrow>fair/uair depending on DI

 

[soap]

^ A throw that takes 150 seconds would be a pretty awesome stalling tactic.

You would crunch those numbers. I've seen you posting some crazy math theory somewhere before.

 

[bubbaking]

If Sheik's walljumps are invincible for 14 frames, can she use them to power thru certain attacks, like Marth's dair? Also, do other chars get invincible wall jumps?

 

[Strong Badam]

Every character's walljump is invincible frame 1-14.

 

[bubbaking]

I see. Are there any practical applications of this?

 

[Raish]

What are the invincibility frames on Up-B when it's used from the air when recovering? In my experience, it doesn't seem like I'm invincible after frame 18 like I am when I use it from the ground as shown in the gif.

 

[JustBlind]

Anyone got the frame data for jc grab and boost grab?

 

[knightpraetor]

can we get get up attack hitboxes added to this thread?

 

[bubbaking]

Anyone got the frame data for jc grab and boost grab?

Uhhh, you seem to be new, so I'll clue you in. The frame data for a JC grab should be the same as a standing grab (+ 1 or 2 frames for the cancelled jumpsquat), since that's basically what a JC grab is......a regular standing grab.

can we get get up attack hitboxes added to this thread?

You too...

Wall jump: Invincible frame 1-14. IASA: 1
Tech data here.

It also has get-up frame data.

 

[Vudujin]

This character is so broken.

I didn't know D smash didn't hit behind her on the first hit box.

That up-b frame data is really helpful. Now I know when to hit her in the face. . .

 

[soap]

I'll hit you in the face

 

[Vudujin]

Probably, all of your frames are so freakin' good.