Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy come on.

You know Palutena and Little Mac were both extremely popular. You were there for the fan polls.

Don't distort reality to fit a narrative.

Am not saying that characterd being expected make them less popular! Not at all. I was for both their inclusions, you would know that. It's just sort of sad that they where the only popular picks that where easily predictable, is what I'm really feeling about them.

I mean, taking Brawl's roster for example, the choices made a lot of sense and even predicted characters generated a lot of hype.

Might simply be cause I have next to NO connection to any Smash 4 newcomer, and was especially connected to a LOT of Brawl's newcomers (supported Diddy, Ike, Lucas and Toon Link for example)... But yeah, as said earlier, Skyward Sword is the last game I ever bought.

 

[Deleted member]

Well.

I meant the Smashboards Elite Four.

That said, Black Shadow died down, didn't he?

Quite so, sadly.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Little Mac was only less popular in Japan due to it being a Western IP. But that was it.

He's still vastly popular. Palutena even moreso.

 

[Deleted member]

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Elite 5 when Japan's requests for Black Shadow are factored.

Do you have the source of this Miiverse pic?

Basically we had a "Smashboards Elite Four" and a champion for requests.

Mewtwo was the champion for being the most popular request period.

The Elite Four was originally...

• Mega Man
• Ridley
• K. Rool
• Little Mac

In no particular order.

After Mega Man was revealed in the first showing of the game, he got replaced with Palutena.

From there, the Elite Four didn't change after Little Mac and Palutena were revealed. No one else got to that level. Though Isaac and Shulk got super close.

Wasn't it during the very first RTC edition for Smash 4?

 

[Deleted member]

Do you have the source of this Miiverse pic?

Nope.

I saw it years ago posted on Smashboards and saved it for whatever reason.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Might simply be cause I have next to NO connection to any Smash 4 newcomer,

This is your issue.

Try some of their games. They're all pretty great.

In particular, I think you'd like Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates (), Xenoblade Chronicles () and Final Fantasy ().

You're into RPGs, if I recall correctly. You are, right?

Wasn't it during the very first RTC edition for Smash 4?

I think that's when it was coined but the characters had already solidified a position at that point.

 

[Diddy Kong]

This is your issue.

Try some of their games. They're all pretty great.

In particular, I think you'd like Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates (), Xenoblade Chronicles () and Final Fantasy ().

You're into RPGs, if I recall correctly. You are, right?

Awakening and Fates? Even how I really like the franchise, Fire Emblem went a total different route onwards from Awakening. And am still not too sure if I'll like it honestly. Fates? I'm totally not buying their marketing. 3 full games to get the whole story? No thanks... Then there's the DLC, and the fact am gonna absolutely NEED a Ike amiibo.

Xenoblade I always wanted, but never got the money for it unfortunately (biggest reason I quit gaming). Seeing as I still own my Wii, I suppose I could get it one day, but heard it's expensive. Not gonna buy a 3DS XL either just for this. The 3DS needs more for me to purchase it currently...

FF7? Game honestly looks a bit too dated, but I'd be willing to try it out at the very least. The new remake looks far better to me.

Honestly, I'm more down to playing the older Mega Man and Street Fighter games if anything. I also never played Punch Out or Duck Hunt, so those are games I'd rather look into. Am a pretty damn nostalgist when it comes to gaming. DKC2 will probably just forever remain my favorite game, even though the ONE game I currently want to play the most is Golden Sun honestly. I just like games that make you feel like you 'have' to play the whole triology / saga as with DKC (although I absolutely cannot play them emulated!) and Golden Sun (GBA only lol).

 

[Deleted member]

Not gonna buy a 3DS XL either just for this. The 3DS needs more for me to purchase it currently...

Friendly reminder you have either this or the regular (but less powerful) 2DS for a cheaper price.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Awakening and Fates? Even how I really like the franchise, Fire Emblem went a total different route onwards from Awakening. And am still not too sure if I'll like it honestly. Fates? I'm totally not buying their marketing. 3 full games to get the whole story? No thanks... Then there's the DLC, and the fact am gonna absolutely NEED a Ike amiibo.

Xenoblade I always wanted, but never got the money for it unfortunately (biggest reason I quit gaming). Seeing as I still own my Wii, I suppose I could get it one day, but heard it's expensive. Not gonna buy a 3DS XL either just for this. The 3DS needs more for me to purchase it currently...

FF7? Game honestly looks a bit too dated, but I'd be willing to try it out at the very least. The new remake looks far better to me.

Honestly, I'm more down to playing the older Mega Man and Street Fighter games if anything. I also never played Punch Out or Duck Hunt, so those are games I'd rather look into. Am a pretty damn nostalgist when it comes to gaming. DKC2 will probably just forever remain my favorite game, even though the ONE game I currently want to play the most is Golden Sun honestly. I just like games that make you feel like you 'have' to play the whole triology / saga as with DKC (although I absolutely cannot play them emulated!) and Golden Sun (GBA only lol).

>Complains that the newcomers don't engage you
>Says the 3DS has a too small library
>Proceeds to say they're just fine with their old games
Fam, you might aswell ask a bakery to make a pair of jeans for you

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder what third-party support will be like for the next Smash game.

We have Snake and Sonic in SSBB. For SSB4, we have Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta. All of these characters (except for Bayonetta) are major third-party icons who changed gaming. As for Sonic, Mega Man and Bayonetta, they were added due to fan demand.

Six (seven if including Snake in Brawl) third-party characters is a lot when we think about it, especially for a franchise published by Nintendo and I would imagine that licensing costs a lot of money. Still, there are some franchises significant to gaming that has not gotten representation (particularly in playable character format) like Resident Evil, Tekken, and Bomberman. However, I do not imagine that any new third-party addition will be as a result of fan demand (unless one placed close to the top ala Mega Man being the second most wanted in the Brawl poll after Sonic) since I cannot imagine Nintendo exhausting so much effort to gauge demand on Internet forums and social media when they already have results from the ballot.

I believe third-party characters will return for the next Smash. The question is, who will stay from last game and will any new characters be added? I'm 50/50 on us getting a new third-party addition.

 

[Deleted member]

As for Sonic, Mega Man and Bayonetta, they were added due to fan demand.

How , and weren't added due to fan demand as well?

 

[Vintage Creep]

Third party is the way to go for Smash 5. If say, 20 characters are added in the next game, I expect 10 of these to be third party ones. Nintendo sees the potential in adding characters you would've never believed to appear in Smash Bros. (Snake, Cloud and Bayonetta being the major ones I'd say) and it's also pretty obvious right now that there are not many characters left within Nintendo that would bring the same punch. Of course characters like Takamaru would bring hype to die-hard Nintendo fans, but I'd honestly prefer them to go the route of someone like Bomberman or Rayman which would appeal to both die-hard Nintendo fans, and videogame fans in general.

Bomberman, Rayman, Simon Belmont, a Tekken rep, Jibanyan from Yokai-Watch, even an Assassin's Creed rep if the franchise ever returns to Nintendo consoles, a Dragon Quest one, the Dovakhin from Skyrim, a Shin Megami Tensei rep, Phoenix Wright, Professor Layton, a Fatal Frame rep, a Resident Evil rep, Ryu Hayabusa, all choices that would bring Smash even more in the spotlight. There are still a lot of big Nintendo characters out of course, and I'm not against adding obscure ones in it too, but a new roster with mostly obscure and peculiar characters plus the few Inklings and Ridley of the likes would be underwhelming. Since Brawl, I'd argue the most interesting addition in both Brawl and 4 installments have been a third party.

 

[Opossum]

How , and weren't added due to fan demand as well?

Cloud and Ryu were cited as popular requests, yeah. Sakurai's statements about Pac-Man didn't allude to requests though.


Well, unless you count Miyamoto.

I wonder what third-party support will be like for the next Smash game.

We have Snake and Sonic in SSBB. For SSB4, we have Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta. All of these characters (except for Bayonetta) are major third-party icons who changed gaming. As for Sonic, Mega Man and Bayonetta, they were added due to fan demand.

Six (seven if including Snake in Brawl) third-party characters is a lot when we think about it, especially for a franchise published by Nintendo and I would imagine that licensing costs a lot of money. Still, there are some franchises significant to gaming that has not gotten representation (particularly in playable character format) like Resident Evil, Tekken, and Bomberman. However, I do not imagine that any new third-party addition will be as a result of fan demand (unless one placed close to the top ala Mega Man being the second most wanted in the Brawl poll after Sonic) since I cannot imagine Nintendo exhausting so much effort to gauge demand on Internet forums and social media when they already have results from the ballot.

I believe third-party characters will return for the next Smash. The question is, who will stay from last game and will any new characters be added? I'm 50/50 on us getting a new third-party addition.

I could honestly see all six current third parties coming back, be it Smash 5 DLC or base game. Only possible exception could be Cloud if SE backs out due to being notoriously stingy, but from what we've heard they were eager for them to add Cloud, so I think he's got a good shot at staying.



For third party newcomers, Crash Bandicoot all the way. Whoa!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think 10 extra third parties is too much in one go, but there's one thing I demand should we get that. Snake's return. Not only was he crazy fun to play, not only did Snake's franchise change the story in video games, but he was the first third party character EVER to be added in Smash
EDIT: Sonic himself only made it in Brawl last minute meaning he'd have been the ONLY third party then too

 

[_Sheik]

Seems like the Smash hype for everyone is all about newcomers (and quite frankly, I can get behind that, it's simple logic after all) but what does it matter if the possible choices for Nintendo reps keep on getting more narrow with each entry? We've got a pretty solid roster with Smash 4 alone. The original Smash's purpose was to make the "Nintendo All-Stars Fighting Game" dream come true, and I'll still enjoy playing as my beloved Sheik or Falco when Smash 6 comes out in twenty years or whatever. The veterans only get stale because we are way too attached to the newcomer hype; may as well remember that we were extremely lucky to have some of the characters who were included in Melee, Brawl, etc, and cherish our opportunity to play them at our leisure (reminder: the likes of Bowser and Zelda never even got their own spin-off games, which means that Smash is our only chance to control them)

Ten third-party additions seem more "underwhelming" to me than any other exceeding number of Nintendo rep additions to Smash :/

 

[Autumn ♫]

Honestly, the only 3rd party newcomer I believe to be "likely" would be Rayman, because of his appearence in 4, and because of Ubisoft getting buddy-buddy with Nintendo lately. I'd totally be down to see someone like Jack Frost or Phoenix Wright in though.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Yesterday's conversation made me start thinking what the New Smashboards Elite Four and Champion is.

Inkling is the new champion I think.

With the new Elite Four being some combination of...

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• Snake
• Spring Man
• Decidueye
• K.Rool
• Isaac

Which four exactly?

I mean, its too early to tell for sure but if I had to choose...

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• K.Rool
• Spring Man

I think those four are only gonna grow.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yesterday's conversation made me start thinking what the New Smashboards Elite Four and Champion is.

Inkling is the new champion I think.

With the new Elite Four being some combination of...

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• Snake
• Spring Man
• Decidueye
• K.Rool
• Isaac

Which four exactly?

I mean, its too early to tell for sure but if I had to choose...

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• K.Rool
• Spring Man

I think those four are only gonna grow.

Spring Man should be replaced with Snake imo, then it's accurate

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Spring Man should be replaced with Snake imo, then it's accurate

Snake was honestly the one I struggled with.

If I'm being honest, I think Spring Man can become the next Inkling with enough time and such so I went and predicted that.

Snake almost made it to the list.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

One thing to keep in mind is Konami itself. This is part of why many gave up on Snake. So his requests have dwindled down due to what is a "reality check".

Not to say we can't be proven wrong and he could come back, but it seems unlikely due to our observations.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I think Decidueye is pretty much guaranteed to hit Elite Four, or at the very least fight his way in after one gets confirmed.

Dude is uber popular with hardcore and casual and fits just about everything people need to bandwagon onto.


Springman is probably Inklings second hand man if Decidueye isnt. because of the new IP character without worrying about bombing like Wonderful 101 did.


Veterans im not quite sure about. Wolf was clearly the frontrunner here before DLC ended but now everyone throws out ICs first so im not quite sure which people will crowd around more. Maybe the Elite Four needs a double battle. Snake will probably have reasonably loud enough hatebase to keep him out of the elite 4 compared to the rest

 

[Swamp Sensei]

We can easily expand past an Elite Four is need be.

Elite Five is easy enough.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

We can easily expand past an Elite Four is need be.

Elite Five is easy enough.

Yeah, wasn't there a Big Three at one point?
Ridley, K. Rool and someone else

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Yeah, wasn't there a Big Three at one point?
Ridley, K. Rool and someone else

I think people tried to do so after Little Mac and Palutena were confirmed.

I think it was Isaac because Shulk was nearly confirmed at that point.

 

[Deleted member]

I probably have said it before, but I fear Decidueye will become the new Zoroark as Gen 8 will be a thing on the Switch.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I think people tried to do so after Little Mac and Palutena were confirmed.

I think it was Isaac because Shulk was nearly confirmed at that point.

Yeah, Isaac was the third one. I remember that well. Twas crazy speculation-wise. XD

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I could see Decidueye falling down in a year or two.

He isn't someone I'm confident on and whenever I say that I get pestered for it.

 

[Deleted member]

We shouldn't consider Decidueye specifically to be part of the "Elite Four" or whatever.

A Gen 7 Pokémon, definitely, but nothing specific due to too many factors in play in regards to a Pokémon newcomer.

 

[Opossum]

I mean, I'm less confident in Decidueye now than I was a few months ago, if only because Gen VIII is basically confirmed for the Switch (they've never separated a single generation over two systems). I think he's highly likely if a Smash 4 port comes out before the Gen VIII Switch game, but if the next Smash isn't until after the new generation he's basically done for.

I definitely wouldn't compare him to Zoroark though. Decidueye has a lot more popularity within the Smash and Pokémon fandoms, while Zoroark felt much more expected than wanted.

 

[A Distant Demon]

We shouldn't consider Decidueye specifically to be part of the "Elite Four" or whatever.

A Gen 7 Pokémon, definitely, but nothing specific due to too many factors in play in regards to a Pokémon newcomer.

I thought elite 4 was popularity, not likelihood?
because Decidueye is blatantly the most popular (as much as I wish it was Incineroar)


I personally think we wont get a clear picture until the hype starts up after the announcement and speculation is flooded with people

 

[Deleted member]

I thought elite 4 was popularity, not likelihood?
because Decidueye is blatantly the most popular (as much as I wish it was Incineroar)


I personally think we wont get a clear picture until the hype starts up after the announcement and speculation is flooded with people

The "Elite Four" thing kind of bleeds into both, which I feel it shouldn't be anything specific, much like how before Greninja was revealed, everyone knew a Gen 6 Pokémon was getting in, but there was no true consensus on which one.
But if it is just who's talked about more/the more "popular" choice, then I'd agree that the one that should be on the list is Decidueye.

Though on the same note, even if it's just "who's the more popular choice", I'd argue that we'd have to factor in Ribbon Girl alongside Spring Man if he's getting in the "E4". It's really hard to tell if Spring Man really is the more "popular" choice between them, or if it's just he's more expected. But considering discussion tends to head to "one with the other as an alt" regardless of whether that makes sense or not, it'd be more fair to include both on the list.

 

[Curious Villager]

I could see Decidueye falling down in a year or two.

He isn't someone I'm confident on and whenever I say that I get pestered for it.

I'm not really that confident in him either (or any gen 7 Pokemon in general) especially if gen 8 and Smash Switch get announced around a similar time frame and Smash Switch is a brand new entry. At least we know a new mainline Pokemon game is in development for the Switch, which will most likely be gen 8.

 

[Deleted member]

How , and weren't added due to fan demand as well?

Like Opossum said, Pac-Man's inclusion had nothing to do with fan demand. That said, I did forget that Ryu and Cloud may have been added due to fan demand but I forgot what Sakurai said about it if any. Would you (or someone else) please link to it?

Third party is the way to go for Smash 5. If say, 20 characters are added in the next game, I expect 10 of these to be third party ones. Nintendo sees the potential in adding characters you would've never believed to appear in Smash Bros. (Snake, Cloud and Bayonetta being the major ones I'd say) and it's also pretty obvious right now that there are not many characters left within Nintendo that would bring the same punch. Of course characters like Takamaru would bring hype to die-hard Nintendo fans, but I'd honestly prefer them to go the route of someone like Bomberman or Rayman which would appeal to both die-hard Nintendo fans, and videogame fans in general.

Bomberman, Rayman, Simon Belmont, a Tekken rep, Jibanyan from Yokai-Watch, even an Assassin's Creed rep if the franchise ever returns to Nintendo consoles, a Dragon Quest one, the Dovakhin from Skyrim, a Shin Megami Tensei rep, Phoenix Wright, Professor Layton, a Fatal Frame rep, a Resident Evil rep, Ryu Hayabusa, all choices that would bring Smash even more in the spotlight. There are still a lot of big Nintendo characters out of course, and I'm not against adding obscure ones in it too, but a new roster with mostly obscure and peculiar characters plus the few Inklings and Ridley of the likes would be underwhelming. Since Brawl, I'd argue the most interesting addition in both Brawl and 4 installments have been a third party.

I do not like this assessment.

Third-party characters are special occasions to showcase characters not made by Nintendo and how they are different from what Nintendo characters have to offer (even Mega Man, where Nintendo fans frequently bring up parallels to Nintendo characters, is unique) but if they become as regular as Nintendo characters themselves, it becomes a lot more difficult to make them stand out. Eventually, there will be a diminishing return on third-parties (if it hasn't happened already) and adding too much at one time takes away from the focus on Smash being about bringing Nintendo characters together to fight.

Nintendo characters are different because they are owned by Nintendo and they own Smash. It is unwise to underestimate how many potential characters Nintendo has to offer because we had a similar mindset about "reaching the bottom of the barrrel" after Brawl and look at how many new characters we got in the base game (eighteen, same as Brawl). We should also take into account that it has only been two and a half years since SSB4 last released. Unless we are getting a Smash 4 Deluxe sometimes soon, there is plenty of time for potential new characters to mark their place, especially with Switch being a massive success.

I could honestly see all six current third parties coming back, be it Smash 5 DLC or base game. Only possible exception could be Cloud if SE backs out due to being notoriously stingy, but from what we've heard they were eager for them to add Cloud, so I think he's got a good shot at staying.


For third party newcomers, Crash Bandicoot all the way. Whoa!

For some reason, that would not surprise me either. However, it is worth noting that this does not take into account possible controversy with how a third-party handles a franchise. Most of us expected Snake to return prior to the end of 2013 yet it is a general consensus that Konami's bitterness at Kojima -- and as a result the franchise -- contributed to his exclusion.

That said, I would welcome Snake's return. He was a ton of fun to play in Brawl and I voted for him in the Smash poll.

Seems like the Smash hype for everyone is all about newcomers (and quite frankly, I can get behind that, it's simple logic after all) but what does it matter if the possible choices for Nintendo reps keep on getting more narrow with each entry? We've got a pretty solid roster with Smash 4 alone. The original Smash's purpose was to make the "Nintendo All-Stars Fighting Game" dream come true, and I'll still enjoy playing as my beloved Sheik or Falco when Smash 6 comes out in twenty years or whatever. The veterans only get stale because we are way too attached to the newcomer hype; may as well remember that we were extremely lucky to have some of the characters who were included in Melee, Brawl, etc, and cherish our opportunity to play them at our leisure (reminder: the likes of Bowser and Zelda never even got their own spin-off games, which means that Smash is our only chance to control them)

Ten third-party additions seem more "underwhelming" to me than any other exceeding number of Nintendo rep additions to Smash :/

Not quite on Bowser. Bowser was playable in three Mario Karts, Mario Golf (and I think Mario Tennis) prior to Melee and he is playable in many spin-offs. I will give you Zelda though (at least prior to Melee) since we should all pretend two certain games never existed.

I mean, I'm less confident in Decidueye now than I was a few months ago, if only because Gen VIII is basically confirmed for the Switch (they've never separated a single generation over two systems). I think he's highly likely if a Smash 4 port comes out before the Gen VIII Switch game, but if the next Smash isn't until after the new generation he's basically done for.

I definitely wouldn't compare him to Zoroark though. Decidueye has a lot more popularity within the Smash and Pokémon fandoms, while Zoroark felt much more expected than wanted.

I actually have a soft spot for Zoroark. He has a really good potential move set and I would like to see how the team incorporates Illusion into the move set.

 

[N3ON]

It's too early for an Elite Four.

If you had started counting Smash 4's Elite Four the years following Brawl Isaac certainly would've been included due to him being one of if not the most requested character due to Dark Dawn being current. But it only really started once Smash 4 was announced. This is the nebulous interim period between release and announcement.

Because things can and will change once the next Smash, whether port or sequel, is announced. I guess you could make the argument for Decidueye being in the Elite Four now (certainly if you exclude the vets), but down the line there's little certainty the same can be said.

Personally I don't care. I like Decidueye and rather him over some alternatives but the cyclical gen VII talk with its biases and camps broke my interest a long time ago. I've lost faith in the odds of a Gen VII character anyway, the next gen imo seems to be quickly on the horizon.

It makes more sense to reevaluate when we've a better grasp on the future Smash situation. As in, actually have more than nothing to work with.

Seems like the Smash hype for everyone is all about newcomers (and quite frankly, I can get behind that, it's simple logic after all) but what does it matter if the possible choices for Nintendo reps keep on getting more narrow with each entry? We've got a pretty solid roster with Smash 4 alone. The original Smash's purpose was to make the "Nintendo All-Stars Fighting Game" dream come true, and I'll still enjoy playing as my beloved Sheik or Falco when Smash 6 comes out in twenty years or whatever. The veterans only get stale because we are way too attached to the newcomer hype; may as well remember that we were extremely lucky to have some of the characters who were included in Melee, Brawl, etc, and cherish our opportunity to play them at our leisure (reminder: the likes of Bowser and Zelda never even got their own spin-off games, which means that Smash is our only chance to control them)

Ten third-party additions seem more "underwhelming" to me than any other exceeding number of Nintendo rep additions to Smash :/

Personally if they simply ported the game with Inkling, ICs and Wolf (and if the stars align - which they won't - Snake), I'd be perfectly happy waiting years until the next iteration. Because I agree the current roster is pretty jam-packed and hits on like 95% of the most pivotal Nintendo characters. With most of the exceptions (Ridley, Toad) being characters I don't imagine we'd get going forward anyway.

Also fwiw newcomers might be more interesting to speculate on but don't underestimate the fan power of the vets. Most cut vets consistently rank among the top on popularity polls and they were how Sakurai & co. decided to kick off the DLC, when the most people were paying attention.

I mean, I'm less confident in Decidueye now than I was a few months ago, if only because Gen VIII is basically confirmed for the Switch (they've never separated a single generation over two systems). I think he's highly likely if a Smash 4 port comes out before the Gen VIII Switch game, but if the next Smash isn't until after the new generation he's basically done for.

I definitely wouldn't compare him to Zoroark though. Decidueye has a lot more popularity within the Smash and Pokémon fandoms, while Zoroark felt much more expected than wanted.

Zoroark was a cool guy and I will burn a candle for him.

 

[Deleted member]

I like how people are giving Zoroark the male label when the hypothetical Smash fighter Zoroark would have been female because of the movie. :V

 

[AlphaSSB]

Yesterday's conversation made me start thinking what the New Smashboards Elite Four and Champion is.

Inkling is the new champion I think.

With the new Elite Four being some combination of...

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• Snake
• Spring Man
• Decidueye
• K.Rool
• Isaac

Which four exactly?

I mean, its too early to tell for sure but if I had to choose...

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• K.Rool
• Spring Man

I think those four are only gonna grow.

I'd say replace Spring Man with Snake, and you've got the five most wanted. Isaac, Decidueye, and Spring Man can make for three of the eight Gym Leaders, if we want to go that far.

Champion: Inkling

Elite 4A: Wolf
Elite 4B: Snake
Elite 4C: Ice Climbers
Elite 4D: King K. Rool

Gym Leader 8: Dixie Kong
Gym Leader 7: Decidueye
Gym Leader 6: Isaac
Gym Leader 5: Bandanna Dee
Gym Leader 4: Spring Man
Gym Leader 3: Krystal
Gym Leader 2: Impa
Gym Leader 1: Sylux

This is really just my guess as to where things are as of right now. There's really no telling what the next Elite Four will be until the next Smash game is revealed. Still, it's always fun to speculate, too early or not.

I will say this though. I think that if Sylux is confirmed for Metroid Prime 4, and the game comes out before the next Smash, then Sylux is very likely to shoot up into the Elite Four. Of course, the same can be said if Isaac or Krystal are prominently featured in a new game from their respective franchises. Decidueye can easily fall after a year or so, especially if Gen VIII rolls around before the next Smash.

 

[Diddy Kong]

>Complains that the newcomers don't engage you
>Says the 3DS has a too small library
>Proceeds to say they're just fine with their old games
Fam, you might aswell ask a bakery to make a pair of jeans for you

Well, I supported "relevant" characters as Dixie Kong and Impa as well.

 

[Deleted member]

With all this talk about how we could possibly be getting a Gen 8 Pokémon, it made me realize something.

I so can't wait for "Gen 8 Grass Starter" to be the one everyone jumps to for Smash.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

will say this though. I think that if Sylux is confirmed for Metroid Prime 4, and the game comes out before the next Smash, then Sylux is very likely to shoot up into the Elite Four.

This is actually a good talking point.

Metroid Prime 4 is coming and if Sylux isn't in I'll be flabbergasted.

But what would it do to Sylux's popularity? Would it skyrocket? Stay the same?

 

[Opossum]

This is actually a good talking point.

Metroid Prime 4 is coming and if Sylux isn't in I'll be flabbergasted.

But what would it do to Sylux's popularity? Would it skyrocket? Stay the same?

Whether it be from bandwagoning or legitimate fascination with the character, I think requests for Sylux will skyrocket.

Many people just want a non-Samus Metroid character, and Sylux is a decently well liked and workable character (i.e., he doesn't have size issues). People will flock to that.