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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Round Brawl era, I'd agree with you. I think Sora probably has a higher request rate these days though.
Nah I have seen way more on the Geno side in a lot of different sites and even in Japanese sites trust me I dig very deep on the internet
also I think Disney owns sora not square Enix.
 
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Honestly, even if Sora is more popular than Geno, the fact that Disney owns the rights to Sora and that Disney is very strict with their properties gives me little reason to see Sora as a possibility.
Don't get me wrong, both Geno and Sora are very unlikely to happen anytime soon. But Geno sounds a hell of a lot likelier than Sora if you ask me.

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I know this is weird but If Disney characters were added do you think the penguin from club penguin would be a possible thing to happen?
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No

. . .no
Ok, yeah, there was a DS game but everyone had a DS game or GBA game back then. There is literally no reason for there to be a penguin from Club Penguin in smash over hundreds of other video game characters.

We already have a penguin anyway :4dedede:
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No

. . .no
Ok, yeah, there was a DS game but everyone had a DS game or GBA game back then. There is literally no reason for there to be a penguin from Club Penguin in smash over hundreds of other video game characters.

We already have a penguin anyway :4dedede:
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Club Penguin's gonna be gone in like 2 weeks anyway for a mobile game.

 
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In the end, why a certain character is liked by people is completely irrelevant to the chances. Doesn't matter whether you have a really deep and personal reason to like a character or simply lel memes, at the end of the day, you're going to pay the same $60 for the game. The developer has no reason to give the "deep reasons" priority.

A lot of people like Waluigi because he's a meme. Doesn't mean their support is illegitimate.
I myself liked Waluigi before he was a meme with his status as a meme only making it easier to have fun discussing him among friends. He's my 2nd favorite Mario character after Wario, and I'm disappointed we never get to see the duo work together outside of sports competitions.
 

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I heard Disney was trying their own smash bros like game but it never got off the ground. That said only Disney character I see having any pretense would be Sora from Kingdom hearts.

I can't think of a Disney character in gaming that even comes close to his level of popularity.
 

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I myself liked Waluigi before he was a meme with his status as a meme only making it easier to have fun discussing him among friends. He's my 2nd favorite Mario character after Wario, and I'm disappointed we never get to see the duo work together outside of sports competitions.
Waluigi's meme status did a lot to make me like him. I appreciate any character that can give me a good laugh.

I also like him because his current online persona basically represents a group attempt to breathe life and personality into a character that didn't receive much attention from his company.
 
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He's my 2nd favorite Mario character after Wario, and I'm disappointed we never get to see the duo work together outside of sports competitions.
Agreed. It baffles me how he has never appeared in any Wario game.

I wouldn't mind seeing him in Smash either, although I personally prefer Captain Toad.
 

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Waluigi B special: Whiskered Eggplant

Waluigi tosses a whiskered eggplant. If it hits an enemy, it does minor damage and gives them a Waluigi mustache. Their special B move becomes whiskered eggplant. They make a 'Waaaa' noise in their voice when they throw it. If they hit someone, their B move becomes whiskered eggplant.

In eight player smash, you can infect everyone so there are whiskered eggplants galore.

The whiskered eggplant could go away with a time-limit or it can disappear once the infected person hits someone with a whiskered eggplant.
 
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I get that being "weird" is Waluigi's shtick, but I'm not quite sure I see the merit of a character just straight up inventing stuff up with little relevance for the sake of being random.

EDIT a word or two
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I get that being "weird" is Waluigi's shtick, but I'm not quite sure I see the merit in just straight up inventing stuff up with little relevance for the sake of being random.

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Sometimes you got lots of great ideas and no one that could use them believably, and that's where Waluigi comes in.
 
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I get that being "weird" is Waluigi's shtick, but I'm not quite sure I see the merit of a character just straight up inventing stuff up with little relevance for the sake of being random.

EDIT a word or two
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Whiskered Eggplant is from a Waluigi game.

The effect is a creative way to shut down an opponent's B move, which is vital for some characters. Instead of having their special move, they will have a slow projectile that does 1% damage. The only way to get their special back is to hit someone with the eggplant.

Waluigi is a creepy nuisance. What better way to annoy then turning your opponent into a fellow creep.

The attack is a metaphor for a meme. Viral by nature.
 

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I get that being "weird" is Waluigi's shtick, but I'm not quite sure I see the merit of a character just straight up inventing stuff up with little relevance for the sake of being random.

EDIT a word or two
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We're not really making up stuff from nowhere, it's more of putting together stuff from his various appearances.
 

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Speaking of rules, making character support threads is allowed now. Go nuts.
 

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Fal beats me to making a character directory ans beats me to a rrminder threads are open sheesh

Viridi thread soon
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Get wrecked :p.

What if someone beats you to Virdi to? Lol

What we need is an Hades support thread though.
 
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Get wrecked :p.

What if someone beats you to Virdi to? Lol
I would have deleted it :troll:

Ok not really


Zem-raj Zem-raj are you still a part of the Luxurious mansion by any chance?

I want to let them know they can have their own, official Ridley thread again that isn't stuck in a group.
(any other members of the mansion or other groups like Dreamland ( Chandeelure Chandeelure )or that DK group (@BKupa666 ) can do so as well)

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Oh so we can make character support threads again now? I wonder if I should open up a new Professor Layton support thread or give someone else the torch to carry....
 
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The potential characters having their own threads brings back memories...

Now, it feels kinda cool and sad, cool because I really miss the speculation and all that, but sad because the new game still isn't even announced, and we don't even know if it will have a lot of new content or just one or two characters.

I think I will copy the old Bandana Dee thread make a Bandana Dee thread now...
 
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Made some minor adjustments to the rules OP

Mostly common sense stuff (stay on topic) and an aggressive reminder on detracting etc.

Stuff most you hopefully won't have an issue with in the first place.
 

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So is this speculation about a Nintendo Switch port for Smash for Wii U like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or an entirely new game altogether (either Smash 5 or Super Smash Bros. for Switch)? Or is it speculation for both?
 

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Port, new game, AND the possibility of melee VC
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So basically speculation on the future of Smash.


Got it. I guess earlier is better though it's jumping the gun a bit :x



Glad to see a whole new cycle of speculation starting. I probably won't be participating that much in it this time around.
 

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I heard Disney was trying their own smash bros like game but it never got off the ground. That said only Disney character I see having any pretense would be Sora from Kingdom hearts.

I can't think of a Disney character in gaming that even comes close to his level of popularity.
Wasn't that how Dissidia became a thing?
Speaking of rules, making character support threads is allowed now. Go nuts.
Got dibs on the Snake thread!
 

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I call dibs on a Big the Cat support topic. :troll:

Nah, I know he's incredibly unlikely for Smash.
 
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I call dibs on a Big the Cat support topic. :troll:

Nah, I know he's incredibly unlikely for Smash.
Come on, you know that he is too big for Smash. :p

Though I agree that Big is far too low on the totem pole of Sonic reps.
 

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If the Sonic franchise was owned by Nintendo, who do you think would be in Smash?

I'd guess Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Amy, and Eggman for sure. Shadow probably too.
 

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So they've opened the floodgates for support threads again, eh? Wonder who'll have the popular crowd this time around?

I'd start a thread or two myself, but I have a lot more to do nowadays and I've been so run down lately...
 

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I'd really love to create an Isaac or Magearna support thread but I suck at that kinda stuff ;~;
 

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If the Sonic franchise was owned by Nintendo, who do you think would be in Smash?

I'd guess Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Amy, and Eggman for sure. Shadow probably too.
Shadow is the most likely out of those. He didn't become the sole AT for no reason, after all. He's the most popular after Sonic. I could see Tails or Eggman next, but honestly, all 6 of them would round it out well. Possibly 7 with Metal Sonic. Sonic being a 3rd party franchise is more or less keeping that idea low, though. While it's a fan rule that 3rd party franchises get one character, it's not actually fanwank entirely. This is more based upon Sakurai's actions and statements. He considers representation important(this is why Melee has one Kirby character specifically. It's a coincidence he couldn't make another since Dedede wouldn't be plausible with even him not making the 6 clones. That said, a clone of Kirby would've been possible if he was okay with giving more representation. Being he made Kirby, he didn't want to overrepresent his own franchise at the time. This is logical because you don't want to seem biased. He's obviously biased, don't get me wrong, but who isn't. That's not a bad thing, though), and he has called every 3rd party character a special guest outside of Snake at best. And Snake didn't come back, but of course, we don't know why(many guess Konami wouldn't play ball, but no reason to legit known). The fact they're iconic also comes to mind. One thing to suggest is that he looks at a franchise and sees "most iconic character", which could explain why the fanrule has some logic to it.

That said, Sakurai has never given more than an implication that it's unlikely, although a statement would be nice.
 

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I would have deleted it :troll:

Ok not really


Zem-raj Zem-raj are you still a part of the Luxurious mansion by any chance?

I want to let them know they can have their own, official Ridley thread again that isn't stuck in a group.
(any other members of the mansion or other groups like Dreamland ( Chandeelure Chandeelure )or that DK group (@BKupa666 ) can do so as well)

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I am indeed (The place is usually dead, but that's not to our fault. We're still waiting for Ridley/Metroid news).

I'm a bit sceptical about having a Ridley thread in the speculation forum, because of what usually happens when we have open Ridley thread... detractors ruining things.

Has anyone in particular claimed ownership of a Ridley thread yet?

If not, I wouldn't mind making one.
 
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I am indeed (The place is usually dead, but that's not to our fault. We're still waiting for Ridley/Metroid news).

I'm a bit sceptical about having a Ridley thread in the speculation forum, because of what usually happens when we have open Ridley thread... detractors ruining things.

Has anyone in particular claimed ownership of a Ridley thread yet?

If not, I wouldn't mind making one.
No-one's claimed it as far as I know so get that essay of an OP started.

 
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