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The Official BBR Tier List v4 -> Sonic's HA Stall is NOT beaten by spot dodge!!!!!!!!

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It has been a while now since the last tier list, and many cries and also a lot of assumptions were for one to be out by December or January. However, the BBR has been busy with many projects and discussions, as well as new policies being brought into place that put the Tier List on the backburner. For hopefully obvious reasons, the tier list was of less concern than making sure our foundations, rule set policies and the organisation of large tournaments were as sustainable and AWESOME as possible.

I would like to point out that this tier list is based on the BBRs current OFFICIAL RULE SET.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230481

There was lengthy discussion of what we would consider high tier, middle tier or low tier characters, especially with the majority decision of Meta Knight being in his own tier.

Low Tier now officially loses Pokemon Trainer, Ness and Bowser, as we do not consider E Tier as a Borderline Low. However, Ness & Bowser were originally voted as Upper Low, but rather than another tier both were bumped into E. Hence, one could consider both Ness and Bowser acceptable characters in Low Tier tournaments.

Whilst there are several characters with not much literal placement movement (Snake, Donkey Kong, etc etc), one needs to really consider what their cohort (in their tier) is now compared to before.
Snake is still second best in the game, but he is not considered to be within the same tier as Meta Knight. I would call this a drop in principal.
Donkey Kong stayed the same yet is no longer close in comparison to a character who was 14th in the game (from Tier List v3).

And finally, I am happy to present to you the newest version of the Brawl Back Room's Official Brawl Tier List.

Tier List Version Four

TOP
S :metaknight:

HIGH
A :snake: :diddy: :falco: :popo: :marth: :warioc:
B :dedede: :pikachu2: :olimar: :lucario: :gw:

Middle
C :pit: :toonlink: :zerosuitsamus: :kirby2: :rob:
D :dk2: :peach: :fox: :luigi2: :wolf:
E :shiek: :pt: :sonic: (:ness2: :bowser2:)

Low
F :lucas: :ike: :yoshi2: :mario2: :falcon: :samus2: :jigglypuff:
G :zelda: :link2: :ganondorf:​

Condensed Version:
S: Meta Knight
A: Snake, Diddy Kong, Falco, Ice Climbers, Marth, Wario
B: King Dedede, Pikachu, Olimar, Lucario, Mr. Game & Watch
C: Pit, Toon Link, Zero Suit Samus, Kirby, R.O.B.
D: Donkey Kong, Peach, Fox, Luigi, Wolf
E: Sheik, Pokémon Trainer, Sonic, Ness, Bowser
F: Lucas, Ike, Yoshi, Mario, Falcon, Samus, Jigglypuff
G: Zelda, Link, Ganondorf

Older Tier Lists
v1 (September 1, 2008)
v2 (January 1, 2009)
v3 (June 5, 2009)

TIER LIST PLACE MOVEMENT
:metaknight:
1. Meta Knight =

-

:snake:
2. Snake =
:diddy:
3. Diddy Kong +2
:falco:
4. Falco =
:popo:
5. Ice Climbers +6
:marth:
6. Marth +1
:warioc:
7. Wario -4

-

:dedede:
8. King Dedede -2
:pikachu2:
9. Pikachu =
:olimar:
10. Olimar =
:lucario:
11. Lucario +3
:gw:
12. Mr. Game & Watch -4

-

:pit:
13. Pit +4
:toonlink:
14. Toon Link +2
:zerosuitsamus:
15. Zero Suit Samus =
:kirby2:
16. Kirby -3
:rob:
17. R.O.B. -5

-

:dk2:
18. Donkey Kong =
:peach:
19. Peach =
:fox:
20. Fox +1
:luigi2:
21. Luigi -1
:wolf:
22. Wolf =

-

:shiek:
23. Sheik +1
:pt:
24. Pokémon Trainer +3
:sonic:
25. Sonic -2
:ness2:
26. Ness +5 (tied with Bowser)
:bowser2:
26. Bowser -1 (tied with Ness)

-

:lucas:
28. Lucas +1
:ike:
29. Ike -1
:yoshi2:
30. Yoshi +2
:mario2:
31. Mario -1
:falcon:
32. Captain Falcon +3
:samus2:
33. Samus =
:jigglypuff:
34. Jigglypuff =

-

:zelda:
35. Zelda -9
:link2:
36. Link =
:ganondorf:
37. Ganondorf =
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Code: 
Phase One (Tier Placement)
Characters with two numbers were voted in two tiers
(x) = original point score when considered in the previous tier.

Meta Knight 1.00
Snake 1.45
Diddy 1.45

Ice Climbers 2.00
Falco 2.06 (1.79)
Wario 2.11 (1.97)
Marth 2.33

Olimar 2.72
King Dedede 2.72 (2.00)
Pikachu 3.06
Lucario 3.11

Mr. Game & Watch 3.39
Toon Link 3.44
Kirby 3.44
Pit 3.56
Zero Suit Samus 3.56

R.O.B. 4.00 (3.94)
Donkey Kong 4.00 (3.94)
Peach 4.05
Luigi 4.14
Fox 4.43
Wolf 4.47

Sheik 5.00
Pokemon Trainer 5.14
Sonic 5.33
Ness 6.14
Bowser 6.18 (5.52)

Captain Falcon 6.61
Ike 6.68
Yoshi 6.82
Lucas 6.86
Jigglypuff 6.95
Samus 7.00
Mario 7.05
Zelda 7.32

Link 7.76
Ganondorf 7.86

After voting on placement, discussion of some cut off point characters resulted in some bumps up.
These were Jigglypuff, ROB and Mr. Game & Watch.
The changes came about after suggestions with little (actually I dont think any) resistance and with many BBR members approval.

Code: 
Phase Two (ordering)

Character	Average	Difference
Meta Knight	1	0
Snake		2.44	1.44
Diddy Kong	2.56	0.11
		
Falco		1.62	0
ICs		1.88	0.27
Marth		3.19	1.31
Wario		3.31	0.12
		
Character	Average	Difference
Dedede		1.65	0
Pikachu		2.38	0.73
Olimar		2.54	0.15
Lucario		3.42	0.88
		
G&W		1.85	0
Pit		2.63	0.78
Toon Link	2.78	0.15
ZSS		3.85	1.07
Kirby		3.89	0.04

Character	Average	Difference
ROB		1.2	0
DK		1.25	0.05
Peach		1.3	0.05
Fox		1.6	0.3
Luigi		1.65	0.05
Wolf		2.25	0.6
Sheik		2.65	0.4
Trainer		2.8	0.15
Sonic		3.5	0.7
Ness		3.6	0.1
Bowser		3.6	0
		
Character	Average	Difference
Lucas		1.35	0
Ike		1.5	0.15
Yoshi		1.75	0.25
Mario		1.85	0.1
Falcon		1.9	0.05
Samus		2	0.1
Jigglypuff	2.6	0.6
Zelda		2.85	0.25
		
Link		1.15	0
Ganondorf	1.85	0.7
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As the same person as Shaya, I have to say that I'm proud of how this tier list turned out under my system.

Seventeen thumbs up!
 
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Great to see Ness moving up some spots, that's much closer to where I think he should be. Too bad Link didn't get any love this time though.
 
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I agree with the tier placements in terms of tournament viability for the most part. The order within tiers could be a bit off (pit > rob? Falcon > link? kill me now) but w/e... An improvement on 3.0 to say the least :p
 
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lol @ the LoZ characters.

I'm actually quite pleased with Sonic's placing. It seems right. Perfect, even.
Good job, BBR.
 
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Toon Link will get to B tier someday.
 
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I assume that where bowser has (tied with lucas) it's meant to say (tied with ness)?

Also; first page yay, lol @ bottom tier, dk didn't drop 4 places :(.
 
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OH CRAP. I just randomly came in here (don't really care about the tier list discussion, really) and find that this is actually a NEW tier list...

Also yeah... Zelda being 3rd worst...? ............wat.... Geez... Dropped 9 spots.... I really don't think she's THAT bad....
 
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Lol at the Trifoce tier....
Eh... Pit moved up 4th and is in 13? Eh....interesting to me.
Haha Falcon is moving his way up to the top.
The top is solid. Everything at the bottom is crazy for me to grasp.
 
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Also guys to consider that a lot of characters didnt move placements MUCH, but that did not mean they didnt really move in this tier list.

What tier a character is placed in now means a lot, in my opinion.
Donkey Kong for example stayed the same placement, but he has literally dropped down a tier. Whilst he is still 18th in the game, hes no longer able to say hes as viable as the 13th best.

The same can be said for pretty much the entirity of A tier.
 
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Shaya said:
Also guys to consider that a lot of characters didnt move placements MUCH, but that did not mean they didnt really move in this tier list.

What tier a character is placed in now means a lot, in my opinion.
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Yeah, I'd say that's about right...

*looks at Metaknight*
 
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+1 for fox, meh, it could have been better, but its still an improvment.

and wow, captain falcon moving up : o

wow, zelda -9 that has GOT to hurt
 
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Shaya said:
Also guys to consider that a lot of characters didnt move placements MUCH, but that did not mean they didnt really move in this tier list.

What tier a character is placed in now means a lot, in my opinion.
Donkey Kong for example stayed the same placement, but he has literally dropped down a tier. Whilst he is still 18th in the game, hes no longer able to say hes as viable as the 13th best.

The same can be said for pretty much the entirity of A tier.
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So basically, all characters except Meta Knight are lower because he's in his own tier now?

Am I getting this right?
 
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Arcade said:
So basically, all characters except Meta Knight are lower because he's in his own tier now?

Am I getting this right?
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Close.
Take what characters they used to be tiered with.
As in, most of A used to be tiered with Meta Knight, now they are not; hence I would call that a drop. Marth and ICs are now bunched with those in A, hence they moved up.

So no, just because MK is in his own tier does not mean EVERYONE moved down.
 
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Arcade said:
So basically, all characters except Meta Knight are lower because he's in his own tier now?

Am I getting this right?
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Think so.

Toon Link was B tier before. He went up 2 spots. He's C tier now.

And I second the H tier notion.
 
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When i first saw G tier I thought, H tier??? lol, nice list, for Low tier tournaments, would bottom 10 be the only characters considered for it?
 
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Oli is the same! ICs moved up O: DDD fell. Overall, I like this list a lot. I feel like it's pretty accurate.
 
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Shaya said:
Close.
Take what characters they used to be tiered with.
As in, most of A used to be tiered with Meta Knight, now they are not; hence I would call that a drop. Marth and ICs are now bunched with those in A, hence they moved up.

So no, just because MK is in his own tier does not mean EVERYONE moved down.
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I think I got it. The ordering of the tiers has changed a bit as well so you have to take that into account.
 
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Did not expect Zelda to drop 9 spots...lol

I'll also second what Espy said
 
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