The Seas are Mine to Conquer!

[AlMawile]

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The Seas are Mine to Conquer! - A guide to setting sail with Toon Link.

Hello. My name is AlMawile. I am a farly new member of the community. I've started competitive play in September, but I have always played with Toon Link even in my casual smashing days.

This guide will cover everything from the basics to combos and general strategies. I will cover things such as the use of his projectiles, what I like to call "Bomb Combos", and advanced techniques like Perfect Pivoting uses.

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[AlMawile]

AlMawile updated The Seas are Mine to Conquer! with a new update entry:

Added combos section

1/4/15- I added the combos section, which will be updated overtime.

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[BlazingEmperor]

Nice guide, I mostly never used up throw but I think I will give it a chance!

Could you explain to me what is arrow lock? Is it covering your approach with an arrow since its slow?

And im interested in your Fair > Zair > Fair string, do you have footage of you or anyone using this?

Thank You

 

[Cyre]

I had something to point out about the combos section. It should be titled strings because the word combo usually means guaranteed damage.

1. Fair>Fair
2. Fair>Zair>Fair>Zair>Fair

Are just to examples of what I saw. These are not only DIable. You receive a huge amount of lag and the knockback on fair is kind of big. You also really should not approach with Fair. It doesn't have good priority nor good range. I can see Zair into fair being an option, but don't quote me on that. Other combos that just don't work is pretty much all of them that you listed.

1. Boomerang>boomerang>boomerang>fsmash
2. Hero's Bow>arrow lock> fsmash
3. Hero's Bow>dash attack

Arrows do not combo at all as there is barely any stun. Only enough to just cause them to quiver. I don't think there is any situation either where you should be getting three boomerangs in a row unless your opponent is just mashing A.

If it where me, I'd change the title of that to Strings and list things like Bomb > fair, Bomb> nair, Zair > fair as a mixup. Toon link doesn't have much of any combos except for uptilt spam. Also when listing strings, you should also list what percent ranges they work at. Like low, medium, or high for example. Give maybe a range like (0-15 percent) at the top to represent what low, med, or high even mean. Also most of our strings are just two hits.

I can list a couple more that I know that work at low percent. I also must clarify that not all strings are guaranteed damage. I'll run some of these over with my friend to make sure.

Zair>grab
Bomb>grab (Only at low percents [0 to 25?])
Bomb>nair/fair

Well that's all I can think of

Have a good one and welcome to Smashboards and Toon link boards especially!

 

[AlMawile]

I had something to point out about the combos section. It should be titled strings because the word combo usually means guaranteed damage.

1. Fair>Fair
2. Fair>Zair>Fair>Zair>Fair

Are just to examples of what I saw. These are not only DIable. You receive a huge amount of lag and the knockback on fair is kind of big. You also really should not approach with Fair. It doesn't have good priority nor good range. I can see Zair into fair being an option, but don't quote me on that. Other combos that just don't work is pretty much all of them that you listed.

1. Boomerang>boomerang>boomerang>fsmash
2. Hero's Bow>arrow lock> fsmash
3. Hero's Bow>dash attack

Arrows do not combo at all as there is barely any stun. Only enough to just cause them to quiver. I don't think there is any situation either where you should be getting three boomerangs in a row unless your opponent is just mashing A.

If it where me, I'd change the title of that to Strings and list things like Bomb > fair, Bomb> nair, Zair > fair as a mixup. Toon link doesn't have much of any combos except for uptilt spam. Also when listing strings, you should not only list what percent ranges they work at. Like low, medium, or high for example. Give maybe a range like (0-15 percent) at the top to represent what low, med, or high even mean. Also most of our strings are just two hits.

I can list a couple more that I know that work at low percent. I also must clarify that not all strings are guaranteed damage. I'll run some of these over with my friend to make sure.

Zair>grab
Bomb>grab (Only at low percents [0 to 25?])
Bomb>nair/fair

Well that's all I can think of

Have a good one and welcome to Smashboards and Toon link boards especially!

Thank you for the feedback. I was thinking of calling them strings too. I don't have access to my laptop so I can't update the guide, but thanks anyway. I will make some corrections, and I am planning on adding images and videos to explain what I mean. But what you said was right, since I tested some out and found that they only work on certain characters. watch my guide for more updates, since I plan on adding updates. I encourage feedback like this. Thank you.

 

[AlMawile]

Nice guide, I mostly never used up throw but I think I will give it a chance!

Could you explain to me what is arrow lock? Is it covering your approach with an arrow since its slow?

And im interested in your Fair > Zair > Fair string, do you have footage of you or anyone using this?

Thank You

An arrow lock is an advanced technique. I will make a section on those, but you can find the AT thread in the forum. As for the string, I will post videos once my guide is complete. watch the guide for updates. And up throw is a good option.

 

[AlMawile]

AlMawile updated The Seas are Mine to Conquer! with a new update entry:

Added General Strategy and Keeping the Neutral

I added the general strategy section. it will be updates overtime

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[AlMawile]

AlMawile updated The Seas are Mine to Conquer! with a new update entry:

Added the Matchups section

Added the matchups section, which currently has general group matchups, and will be updated with individual matchups.

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[GalaxysAreRad]

Nice guide but ya forgot one little combo, at mid-high percents if you hit them with a bomb close up you can 9/11 times follow up with a fair. Really good killing option.