Dart!
Smash Master
Seriously, i was dropping games to him. His moves are seriously pretty damn beast. If he didn't die at 90 percent and get scraped by throws i would seriously play as him.
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why is game and watch so much better than perceived?
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ryuu seika
Smash Master
G&W's moves are fairly powerful and have hitboxes that look like an eight year old drew them in paint. Combine that with his excellent aerial game and he really is a good character, if a bit too light.
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
gnw is a glass cannon. great moves overall, dies to stupid crap.
GaW is just as good as I think he is.
****ing incredibeast.
****ing incredibeast.
Anthon1996
Smash Ace
The only flaw I can think of is his extreme light-weight. Otherwise, I'm willing to go to a tourney and win with Mr. **** and Watch. He's overall very fun to play with.
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
Mr **** and win
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
He is significantly better than perceived because no one sits there and CC and shield camps him; if you shield camp g&w with smart wavedashes OoS, then abuse the fact that he takes significant punishment from getting grabbed (being a lightweight means that you can move really really fast after throwing him, thus allowed to abuse him as you might not be able to otherwise) he suddenly becomes a lot less overwhelming. He can't l-cancel a lot of his aerials, so his only real approach option is a very well spaced fair; even that can be shield DId into him --> abuse. This strategy makes g&w pretty hopeless vs marth and sheik in particular unless you're significantly outplayed, but can be employed with the vast majority of characters. It seems overly simplified, but his complete lack of reliable safe approach options really makes him stand out as a low tier character. You're not supposed to fight low tiers like they're real characters, because they're not.
That aside, he has amazing hitboxes, a very strong punishment game, an amazing edgeguard game, a recovery that is very hard to deal with, and a good ledge camping game (his grab range to the ledge is absolutely ridiculous). G&W has a lot going for him, but none of that matters if you choose to ignore him.
That aside, he has amazing hitboxes, a very strong punishment game, an amazing edgeguard game, a recovery that is very hard to deal with, and a good ledge camping game (his grab range to the ledge is absolutely ridiculous). G&W has a lot going for him, but none of that matters if you choose to ignore him.
Mr.Lemon
Smash Journeyman
It's all because of the turtle
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Joot we still haven't played since TO6... ......... =/
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Fullmetal is trying to find a venue for TO7, but he hasn't had much luck yet T_T All g&w though? Good luck with that xD
Keblerelf
Smash Ace
jwt are you going to be at apex? I would love to play/mm your g&w.
I dunno, we'll see!
SuperMatt
Smash Champion
that ******** shield is so annoying...
oh you shield...oops i just hit and 1 hit KOed you, my bad
oh you shield...oops i just hit and 1 hit KOed you, my bad
Yeah I need to work on avoiding shielding as much as possible
it's such a bad habit lol
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Shielding is a dumb thing to do.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Not if you're the one fighting gaw 
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Deleted member
Guest
GAW is only a good character if you respect him. if you choose to out-character him he basically goes back to being trash.
Niko45
Smash Master
I remember when I tried to pivot grab GnW's fair all the time and I was like wtf is this crap.
Then I just started shield grabbing him. Game over.
I honestly think you should give his offense tremendous respect cause the power and disjointedness is pretty sick but like yea...shield and punish is very tough for him to really stop.
Don't try to challenge his moves directly, don't try to outspace him in general, even with great spacing characters. Just shield and **** his lag.
Edit: I don't know how you perceive him but personally I see him as one of the best low tiers. Not as good as, but right below zelda and mewtwo.
Then I just started shield grabbing him. Game over.
I honestly think you should give his offense tremendous respect cause the power and disjointedness is pretty sick but like yea...shield and punish is very tough for him to really stop.
Don't try to challenge his moves directly, don't try to outspace him in general, even with great spacing characters. Just shield and **** his lag.
Edit: I don't know how you perceive him but personally I see him as one of the best low tiers. Not as good as, but right below zelda and mewtwo.
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Deleted member
Guest
actually if you want to be good at low tiers the correct answer is luigi. luigi can do spaced SH bair and bair or SH bair down B and go away from the opponent and it brutally destroys all of the low tiers unless they really outplay you. old school heads call this "the gayzen fagenite" which basically means to do easy strategies that will win you the game by themselves unless the opponent is just substantially better than you.
Van.
Smash Ace
funny, it almost sounds like azen zagenite
Niko45
Smash Master
Oh, Luigi is a mid tier in my book (DK, Link, Mario level). In fact, I think he's the best of that bunch so not surprised if he destroys low tiers.
Max?
Smash Champion
Yeah Luigi is in no shape or form Low Tier anymore.
The Phenom
Smash Lord
I like this response; very true.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Well I never shield no matter who I am.Not if you're the one fighting gaw
ruhtraeel
Smash Ace
G&W ***** really well if the other person doesn't have something that makes him totally useless imo
might sound obvious but yeah
I like him vs FFers too
might sound obvious but yeah
I like him vs FFers too
QERB
Banned via Warnings
i think g&w is def DEF better than ppl think he is...
but my opinion is skewed =x
but my opinion is skewed =x
The next ICG right here.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Nah, ICG picked a character that was a strictly inferior version of another one while G&W isn't a cheap copy of anybody.
We all now G&W is a clone of Gaymanwatch.
Sraigux
Smash Journeyman
GAW is great for people who don't know the matchup. Otherwise he kind of gets ***** =(
ryuu seika
Smash Master
And here's where you prove yourself closer to ICG than QERB could ever be.
onionchowder
Smash Journeyman
game and watch? more like gay man's crotch
amirite?
amirite?