Why is luigi being considered better?

[Veng]

1. luigi has side b, which is good for edge guarding if you can time it can knock em right back off and misfire = ko. But its got the most lag you could think of. So yea his recovery is better, but note his recovery lag is horrible too.

His fireballs dont go up or down and have less ragne

He doesnt have a cape

and hes more floatly and less "fast"

 

[Baky]

Well considering what the difference in Melee and Brawl, Luigi is better in terms of match-ups.

Or thats at least how I understand it.

His normal moves. Such as his f-smash is very effective. I believe Up-B can be used more as a kill move. Plus, he dominates the air now.

 

[SkylerOcon]

Luigi's a better character than Mario in Brawl. The only advantages we have is that (oddly) Mario seems to have the most useful glitches for us to exploit.

His up-b can kill at low percentages, his side-b is powerful, he has excellent air game, and he has a taunt that can do damage.

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

Luigi lives longer and kills at lower %s so yep...there you have it

 

[Jimbo_G]

I'm not convinced Luigi is better than Mario. Although his air attacks are more damaging and have more knock-back than Mario's, he has almost NO ground game to speak of. His smashes just don't seem to have what it takes to be true kill moves. And although he has a devastating Up B, there's the small problem of landing it, and even then it won't KO as often as one would think unless they were over 80% or a very light character. The rest of his special moves are near useless. With his fire balls floating in the air they really can't do much do stop and opponent, and his Side B does almost nothing unless you get the 1/8 chance of pulling off and explosive one. You can often catch an opponent off guard with a Down B and use it for a VERY SMALL amount of recovery, but it just doesn't live up to many of the other character's specials.

Now understand I'm in NO WAY saying Luigi is a bad character. He simply is a VERY specialized character with HUGE weaknesses to off-set his amazing air game and semi-devastating Up B. But compared to Mario, I just think he's too weighted on one side of the spectrum without anything to show against Mario's Jack-of-All-Trades style of play and Mario's increasingly useful specials.

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

Systalis...have you seen Luigi at all? His Fsmash usually kills near 100% on the majority of the cast..100% might seem like alot to you...but it isn't at all...Luigi can combo most characters to 50% from 0...50% is half of 100% and it usually doesn't take much to get that extra 50

A smart Luigi player isn't counting on Side-B for kills

I guarantee if I mained Luigi finding set-ups for his Up-b would not be that hard...it's just like any other character specific set-up

Down B goes just as higher than both of Luigi's jumps on ground so I don't know what you're talking about small amount...It's also a good approach on ground



oh yeah I almost forgot...Luigi has a much better ground game than Mario

 

[SwastikaPyle]

I'm not convinced Luigi is better than Mario. Although his air attacks are more damaging and have more knock-back than Mario's, he has almost NO ground game to speak of. His smashes just don't seem to have what it takes to be true kill moves. And although he has a devastating Up B, there's the small problem of landing it, and even then it won't KO as often as one would think unless they were over 80% or a very light character. The rest of his special moves are near useless. With his fire balls floating in the air they really can't do much do stop and opponent, and his Side B does almost nothing unless you get the 1/8 chance of pulling off and explosive one. You can often catch an opponent off guard with a Down B and use it for a VERY SMALL amount of recovery, but it just doesn't live up to many of the other character's specials.

Now understand I'm in NO WAY saying Luigi is a bad character. He simply is a VERY specialized character with HUGE weaknesses to off-set his amazing air game and semi-devastating Up B. But compared to Mario, I just think he's too weighted on one side of the spectrum without anything to show against Mario's Jack-of-All-Trades style of play and Mario's increasingly useful specials.

I am fairly certain you do not play against Luigi, ever. If you think Luigi is a specialized character, just look at some of Void's matches on youtube. He's so specialized that he ***** every character he goes up against.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Higher KO potential and more options for recovery (although his are arguably more punishable than Mario's) are the main reasons why Luigi is better than Mario. I'd wouldn't say that he's much better than Mario though and they probably won't be too far away from each other when an offical tier list comes out.

 

[SkylerOcon]

I definately agree with what Fatmanonice said. Luigi does have the advantage, but Mario and Luigi are still very close.

 

[Matador]

I maintain my view that they're just different. Not better or worse than each other, just different.

Luigi has priority, range, and kill moves.

Mario has approach, speed, and Edgeguarding.

I don't count recovery as a factor because I see them as equal. Luigi's is ridiculously easy to gimp, while Mario's is much safer and easier to protect. Though Luigi's covers almost twice the vertical and horizontal distance, it's slow, laggy, and punishable.

Each of their weaknesses is a strength for the other. They're pretty much the same character, just tweaked a bit.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I maintain my view that they're just different. Not better or worse than each other, just different.

Luigi has priority, range, and kill moves.

Mario has approach, speed, and Edgeguarding.

I don't count recovery as a factor because I see them as equal. Luigi's is ridiculously easy to gimp, while Mario's is much safer and easier to protect. Though Luigi's covers almost twice the vertical and horizontal distance, it's slow, laggy, and punishable.

Each of their weaknesses is a strength for the other. They're pretty much the same character, just tweaked a bit.

Like Ness to Lucas and Falco to Fox. It's weird how people see them as miles apart.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Luigi does possess some effective killing moves. His f-smash punishes foes quite well. The third jump can also mean trouble if it hits just right. Lastly, his n-air can make good vertical KOs.

Mario also has some effective killing moves, but they don't KO as fast as what Luigi seems to have. Guess being in Mario's shadow for too long has made him rough and tough.

 

[Amide]

Luigi is better, but barely. Luigi has great aerial attacks, kill moves, recovery, etc. The fact that Mario has the cape makes him almost as good. Then again, depends who's playing.

 

[BoTastic!]

I maintain my view that they're just different. Not better or worse than each other, just different.

Luigi has priority, range, and kill moves.

Mario has approach, speed, and Edgeguarding.

I don't count recovery as a factor because I see them as equal. Luigi's is ridiculously easy to gimp, while Mario's is much safer and easier to protect. Though Luigi's covers almost twice the vertical and horizontal distance, it's slow, laggy, and punishable.

Each of their weaknesses is a strength for the other. They're pretty much the same character, just tweaked a bit.

i agree their equal to me.

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

Luigi is better, but barely. Luigi has great aerial attacks, kill moves, recovery, etc. The fact that Mario has the cape makes him almost as good. Then again, depends who's playing.

The cape is situational...Mario is a very situational character...Luigi has something for just about everything...that's why he's better

 

[SparkEd]

Luigi is considered "better" due to him having more KO Power, Fast Aerials and the fact his fighting moves all all around better offensively than Mario.

Mario is more of a technical character; he doesn't rely on offense as much as Weegee does. he's got a Cape and FLUDD to counteract it and he can deal with characters much more defensively. Basically, he requires a bit more "thinking" than his bro.

IMHO, tho.

 

[Afro Boy2000]

Luigi is considered "better" due to him having more KO Power, Fast Aerials and the fact his fighting moves all all around better offensively than Mario.

Mario is more of a technical character; he doesn't rely on offense as much as Weegee does. he's got a Cape and FLUDD to counteract it and he can deal with characters much more defensively. Basically, he requires a bit more "thinking" than his bro.

IMHO, tho.

I agree with this.. But I think they're equal.

 

[Blistering Speed]

No they're not equal, different=/= equal. Luigi is better at what he does then Mario and is just better for the vast majority of stuff

 

[A2ZOMG]

Luigi is better, but I wouldn't say by a whole ton.

He has some more priority and KO power, but that's about it. He's slower in almost every way UNLESS he is moving horizontally with the Tornado, which still has enough ending lag to be punishable. This particularly means he is more vulnerable to camping. Not helping this is also the fact his projectiles are worse, and that he doesn't have the Cape. As far as I'm concerned, the people who argue that Luigi's priority overides tons of projectiles overlook that most projectiles actually have very bad priority in the first place (minus a few exceptional ones, which are the ones you must worry about if you are bad at dealing with camping), and are easily interrupted by a LOT of attacks, and this is no exception for Mario. Mario is plain better at dealing with camping overall due to mobility options and the Cape. Luigi has nothing truly special to help him avoid camping (except an odd Tornado here and there?).

I think however Mario does have a few matchups where he shines in more than Luigi. At the very least, I think Mario does better vs Space Animals (ledgeguarding and camping factor) than Luigi.

 

[mysticwolf]

he's not better this is a lie!

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

....I really hate this discussion....Luigi is better end of story

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

I'll face you or anyboby as Mario. You can't consider yourself great unless you beat me. My mains are 1. Mario 2. Fox 3. Zero Suit Samus

 

[Mr. Pants]

c'mon give luigi a break. he needs to beat mario at something. anyway, imo, luigi has killer aerials and the luigi tornado is better than fludd, so i think luigi gets the edge

 

[Nintendude92z]

c'mon give luigi a break. he needs to beat mario at something. anyway, imo, luigi has killer aerials and the luigi tornado is better than fludd, so i think luigi gets the edge

Mario doesn't have faster aerials? I'd rather combo then have knock-back.

Edit: By faster, I refer to Bair WOP, U-air chain and Dair.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Mario doesn't have faster aerials? I'd rather combo then have knock-back.

Edit: By faster, I refer to Bair WOP, U-air chain and Dair.

Pardon my ignorance but what does WOP stand for? I have heard this term used in several character boards and I still don't know what it means.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Wall of pain. Being able to repeatedly push/combo people off of the stage with aerials. The funny thing about Brawl is that diminishing returns actually helps this to an extent.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

I hate Luigi becus hes such a coward it pisses me off

 

[ddonaldo]

luigi does have the big advantage that he has an attack that can kill of the top of the screen, and it is an attack that can be used out of a shield. lets face it with most characters that have decent/good recoveries ROB, pit, metaknight etc. most of the time if you hit them horizontally, they are going to get back into the stage

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

I'll face you or anyboby as Mario. You can't consider yourself great unless you beat me. My mains are 1. Mario 2. Fox 3. Zero Suit Samus

please for the love of god tell me you were not talking to me....for one I main Mario and two Luigi is still better regardless of what you say. Mario and Luigi have some slight differences that make them better in a certain area however the things Luigi is better in are much better than the things Mario is

I hate Luigi becus hes such a coward it pisses me off

you wanna know what pisses me off? Idiots

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

how am i n idiot? i dont think luigi is better i think it depends on da user. n yea im talkin 2 u monk/honky

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

how am i n idiot? i dont think luigi is better i think it depends on da user. n yea im talkin 2 u monk/honky

do I really have to explain myself to why you look like an idiot?

Luigi is better...I understand a ****ty Luigi will get stomped by a sexy Mario but if they are equally skilled the Luigi player will probably win 3-4/5 times

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

im not sayin im da best(maybe i am) but i doubt any luigi player will have an ez time wit my mario

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

...

I would love to see a video of you at a tournament getting destroyed by everything

 

[AlAxe]

Luigi's recovery>Mario's recovery
Luigi's air game>Mario's air game
Luigi's smashs>Mario's smashs
Luigi's downb>Mario's downb
Luigi's upb>Mario's upb

Mario has better fireballs and that's about it. The cape is nice but Luigi's side b gives you much greater recovery.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

yo monk how bout i kick ur ***. how bout dat?

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

yo monk how bout i kick ur ***. how bout dat?

you're garbage

 

[T-REX!]

im not sayin im da best(maybe i am) but i doubt any luigi player will have an ez time wit my mario

I bet most of us could beat some random scrub, Luigi is better, just deal with it.

 

[Ranjiz]

I've lost to Luigi in one set ... in the recent tournament in new york city. 0-2 to be exact. So technically Luigi is better than Mario but I believe we can beat Luigi with our Mario if we set our mind to it.

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

I'm not saying it's impossible to win to Luigi...I'm saying it's more than likely he'll win over Mario

 

[Nintendude92z]

I seeked out a few Luigi's in light of this thread, I can see why people can see him as better.

Out've 11 matches, I won 7. (4 different Luigi's, 2 were pretty bad.) Between Mario fighting Luigi, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say its just about even. If it weren't for his F-smash of doom, I'd say it was Mario by a nosehair.

I'd imagine Luigi has a better time with ceartin characters, though. I can never seem to hand someone an overwhelming defeat with Mario.