Uh.... no. It mean gyro will disappear. BC isn't that god like.
Considering that BC, both charged and uncharged, consists of multiple projectiles, its able to cancel out gyro and do damage at the same time, which is pretty sweet.
But that doesnt even really matter, since gyro usually flies a bit too low for BC to catch at it's optimal range.
Yeah, and then what? Are we gonna spam BC for 80% of the fight? BC isn't gonna make ROB use laser and gyro less, it is gonna make ROB use it more.
Why not spam it for 80% of the fight? If thats what it takes to win, and the rob player cant find a way around it, I say spam the hell out of BC.
And if BC makes rob use laser and gyro more, (which is silly, because BC beats his projectiles to the punch every time anyway; that is to say, our projectile comes out faster), then we can bait him into using it and punish/close the distance as needed.
Yes, what can a good Bayonetta player do to force an approach? Spam BC like a madman?
Again, why not? It's free damage.
Easy, use gyro to limit her movement and give yourself space. BC doesn't have the range laser has and it has notable startup and endlag. Even if ROB is hit by BC he isn't in any sort of danger, BC doesn't have any sort of follow up like gyro do and isn't even as damaging as full charged laser. BC put very little pressure on ROB who can put on massive pressure with just gyro.
That is not what I asked. I asked you how rob can deal with BC, and you have failed spectacularly.
"Use gyro to limit movement" Wow, the most blanket statement possible. Way to say something without actually saying anything. Doesnt even relate to BC, too.
BC, uncharged, comes out on frame 17, whereas all versions of laser come out on frame 25. We beat his laser to the punch every time.
It does not matter if rob "isnt in any danger" or "you cant followup BC" because just by using BC, you are severely limiting his options while getting in free damage. Rob is either getting hit (free damage), shielding (pressure), or ducking (no damage, but he cant jump, cant attack, literally cant do anything).
If he tries to laser, it gets interrupted and he loses his charge (unless I'm mistaken).
If he tries to gyro, he gets hit and drops it and has to wait to pick it up before he can use it again.
Now, I'm going to ask you again, very clearly, so that you dont misunderstand the question.
How does Rob stop us from spamming BC? How does he get around it? What move does he use to bypass BC?
Literally, the situation is "rob, getting hit by BC. what does he do to stop it?"
So you really believe BC is that good? That is will beat ROB's laser and gyro all the time? All of my points are definitely all conjecture since matches are different everytime. BC can sometimes beat ROB's laser and gyro, but most of time ROB's laser and gyro will beat BC. ROB has better zoning capability than Bayonetta.
My points are to state ROB has a pretty good time zoning against Bayonetta, not Bayonetta will auto lose against ROB.
Rob has better zoning overall, yes, but it's still linear. His projectile game is "dont stand in front of me," whereas ours is "you cant move from that spot."
The problem here is that you are looking at all this from a "damage/combo" angle, whereas I am looking at it from a "controlling space/limiting options" angle.
Like what? Spam BC and out zone a very good zoner? What exactly does "good Bayonetta" that makes ROB have a hard time zoning her?
Are you gonna claim Bayonetta should spam BC against Rosalina because she is tall? Do you think she can out zone everyone with just BC? Especially against a very good player?
Did I say that? No, I said BC is something we can abuse in this matchup, because of rob's tall hurtbox. Then you claimed laser and gyro beat BC, and while laser does go through BC (I think? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt), BC is faster anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Philos-kun said to spam BC to make ROB approach, then I said ROB can counter it easily and zone her harder than she can zone him. Then suddenly Ghidorah just hopped in and said ROB can't spam laser and is unable to counter BC easily.
Yet again, you claim rob can counter BC "easily," and still have not provided an explanation as to how he actually goes about doing it.
ANSWER THE GODDAMN QUESTION:
How does Rob stop us from spamming BC? How does he get around it? What move does he use to bypass BC?
Literally, the situation is "rob, getting hit by BC. what does he do to stop it?"
may have an advantageous matchup against Bayonetta. His projectile/zoning game is kind of ridiculous, so it can really difficult for Bayonetta to approach him if he knows what he's doing.
