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Mewtwo's down smash is just Lucas' but worse in every way.I think R.O.B's is pretty good. And Mewtwo's looks cool, not too great, though.
Jigglypuff's down smash is a chargeable taunt. It is the very definition of garbage. Only her up smash is worse, and even that's debatable. It's one of the worst moves in the game, let alone down smashes.What about jiggly puffs downsmash? It's a semi spike
Why because of the terrible range? I wont argue that there are a lot of better moves in smash, but it does kind of have a use. It puts opponents in one of the worst positions to recover fromJigglypuff's down smash is a chargeable taunt. It is the very definition of garbage. Only her up smash is worse, and even that's debatable. It's one of the worst moves in the game, let alone down smashes.
No, it's range isn't half bad. It's the fact that semi-spikes aren't scary to anyone not Mac Attack, Doc, or Ganondorf in this game. The move itself can't kill, even at 200%, without rage.Why because of the terrible range? I wont argue that there are a lot of better moves in smash, but it does kind of have a use. It puts opponents in one of the worst positions to recover from
The range is only part of the problem. It's also slow, punishable, and extremely weak. It may be a semi-spike, but that would require you actually land it, which will never happen.Why because of the terrible range? I wont argue that there are a lot of better moves in smash, but it does kind of have a use. It puts opponents in one of the worst positions to recover from
Honestly, Mac should never get hit by such a slow attack.No, it's range isn't half bad. It's the fact that semi-spikes aren't scary to anyone not Mac Attack, Doc, or Ganondorf in this game. The move itself can't kill, even at 200%, without rage.
It's pretty slow for a Down Smash too, starting frame 14.
True, but it's incredibly punishable by any attack that hits downward (ie. Yoshi Bomb).Shulk has the best down smash for punishing roll spammers.
I know, you missed my point in that it's the best way to punish roll spammers. It's definitely not the best down smash in the game, and I never said it was.True, but it's incredibly punishable by any attack that hits downward (ie. Yoshi Bomb).
Fun Fact:'s Up Smash invincibility protects him from Shulk's Down Smash, to the point where he can"counter" Shulk's Down Smash with it.
Sorry about that.I know, you missed my point in that it's the best way to punish roll spammers. It's definitely not the best down smash in the game, and I never said it was.
Down Smash Kill PercentsAm I the only one who feels likeand
have strong down smashes?
Didn't... know they were that bad. I've always used them better for a rack up of damage off a punish. Maybe it's just how they come out pretty quick and had solid damage.Down Smash Kill Percents
- 190% (49/55)
- 140% (29/55)
This doesn't mean they're bad though.
Didn't... know they were that bad. I've always used them better for a rack up of damage off a punish. Maybe it's just how they come out pretty quick and had solid damage.
It's one of my personal favorites.ROB's is frame 7, does around 11% damage, covers both sides, isn't horrendously laggy like some (hello Megaman) and isn't awful at killing thanks to a very horizontal angle.
It is probably not the best in any single category but I'd wager it's one of the most useful.