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No. The official codeset's updates have large gaps in between each other. The Nightly Builds are to test stuff out. The official codesets take what's stable and agreed upon from the Nightly Builds.
Just making sure we both agree on the reason why Ness' aerial fire should have more cool down time with this statement...
The point of the yoyos is to counter people who spot dodge and roll too much...granted Ness does have ways of dealing with them already in fact they already sort of do that...but having more options isn't a bad idea...mostly for the fact that they do leave Ness open if he misses with them anyway...
God you make it sound like the space furries just reflecting things is a bad thing...when they at least have more than just that use with them (granted...Lucas' magnet adds to his recovery, has a somewhat strong low angle knockback effect, and happens to have an advanced extra tech to it as well)
Dair being faster would help...because at a certain % it is an effective way to set up an Uair kill...
Yeah, PK Fire cancels with ADing or a random aerial don't work anymore. So you're stuck lagging no matter what you do, making aerial PKF situational at best.
Point made. Again, I don't have a problem with yoyo buffs. Just not something I personally am pulling for. Seems a lot of others feel differently though._clinton said:
No, I don't want to give that impression. However healing yourself is a far better move than knocking a projectile back since most projectiles in the game will expire before they reach back to their sender._clinton said:
Agreed._clinton said:
Have you even tried it? I seriously doubt you have. You're jumping to conclusions like you always do.
I tried it, although this would have been the easiest jump I've seen in a while. Who complained about the bair and fair? It's not like Ganon's lacking with those moves.
So the hitbox increases were to help with his approaches?
Find me people that think Ganondorf is too good. Before and after this change. B-air was a terrible move before and can at least properly connect with opponents now and not shoot over short characters. Also, Ganon can now space much better with F-air. It helps his approach and spacing game.
Thanks for telling me, I just don't like to take buffs without knowing the reason.
Fair enough. I've been actually looking at going over the change list and providing reasoning for each change. I think it would help, cause frankly not everyone knows what we are thinking and what simple changes like Luigi's jab is actually doing.
Bair was far from terrible. I use it all the time and I don't have much of a problem connecting it. I also can't imagine why anyone would want to use it vs small characters, or even use it so often that you're missing all the time and think it needs a hitbox increase. The bair change really doesn't make sense to me.
he's far from bad, and he hardly needs any hitbox increases, especially on bair. I'll concede fair could possibly have needed the hitbox increase to a degree, but bair... I can't agree with that one.
I'm just saying I don't feel that it's necessary at all, in this form or a finalized one. The reasoning behind it doesn't make any sense to me, or maybe no one's explaining it well.
Again though...10% from a Luigi fireball (for Ness' magnet) isn't even that much of a recovery to be seen as broken...it is just one jab combo in the case with Luigi for example...it really is enough to just give a hint to whoever threw the weapon to be careful with how you use the weapon...because Ness can auto cancel the magnet on the ground if he absorbs something...making it harder to counter...
but there's really no reason to be trying to use bair vs the short characters (especially when they're approaching from the ground), and I don't agree that making it usable in those situations is good enough reason for the change.
a tad nicer would be appreciated. this is not my job, and if you don't mind, I'm would like to enjoy the fact that school is over for a few days.when can we expect the pal codes? hope paprika killer got his finals done already
I tried requesting this in here a while ago, but didn't get much of a response. This would be really awesome. Adding in notes might be a lot of work though, so I would be happy if you or somebody else just started doing this consistently with future updates.
I believe GoG is trying to say that Ganon lacks options for relieving pressure from behind him, especially since short characters like Squirtle with good aerial mobility can simply do cross-ups with Ganon, shield pressuring Ganon and continue to do so rather safely.
Speaking of which...why is it that Peach is the only character that can shoot hearts? Lucas and Ness' main psychic power is based off their emotions and is "the power of the earth" (Hell the default name for Lucas' main special PK Attack is PK Love)
I was thinking more along the line of Ness' Dair having a special effect of a heart added to it...which wouldn't be that far off anyway because the move is DJed but whatever...PK Love from PK Freeze is nice
Modifying hitboxes like this is kind of off-putting. When you say it gets rid of a deadspot.. that's only because you were using sh-bairs in Brawl, whereas they were more viable in melee. They play differently.
in that situation, initiating a jump and using bair sounds like a terrible decision anyway. And why would we want to change a move so it's applicable in a limited number of scenarios? And he has more options than just dair (iDA, jabs, OoS nair, maybe even shield grabs)
sry, i didn't mean it that way. all i wanted to say was, that i know what having no time due to learning means and that i wanted u having enough time to do things u like again (including coding). By all means, take the time u need. And as i've mentioned in an earlier post, personally i think somebody should help u with the pal set, since there are many coders that work on ntsc-codes, and pal ports are getting rarer and rarer (not the ingame modifications, but small stuff like buffer=handicap (i know that ones glitchy, but u get the point).
The yoyo buffs are because neither of the moves do what they're really supposed to. Dsmash is to punish rollers and Upsmash is to defend against aerials.
Cross-ups means going through the opponent to get behind him. At least in a Smash sense.
