.::Captain Douglas Falcon::.

[clubbadubba]

any advancements in falcon meta in the last 3 month or are we still bairing grabbing and usmashing?

 

[Cobrevolution]

dash grab through kirby utilts or something

 

[clubbadubba]

just dash attack kirby's utilt, it clanks and then you are in a pretty good spot

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

dash grab through kirby utilts or something

yo ruoka did that to me a 9 months and i told boom about it
ruoka goes in right after the first utilt

just dash attack kirby's utilt, it clanks and then you are in a pretty good spot

not if your at 0
if you are high % and an utlit wont combo u, then go for it

 

[BananaBolts]

One of my favorite (simple) falcon combos is:
sh nair/fair > dash grab > f-throw > pivot jump > bair > bair > reverse uair

I'm not sure which characters this combos on but I've used it multiple times on dk, link, mario, fox, and pika.

 

[Annex]

anything that ends with reverse uair is happiness
you're a good person

 

[BananaBolts]

any advancements in falcon meta in the last 3 month or are we still bairing grabbing and usmashing?

I'm not sure if this counts but I performed this against my friend's link:
bair > plat drop bair > dash grab > f-throw > u-air > (maybe a second u-air) > low angled reverse uair > turn around falcon kick

I'm not sure if the falcon kick combo-d but it looked awesome

Edit: the low angled reverse u-air has to be done really close to the platform in order to z-cancel, turn around, and falcon kick

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

One of my favorite (simple) falcon combos is:
sh nair/fair > dash grab > f-throw > pivot jump > bair > bair > reverse uair

anything that ends with reverse uair is happiness

The way it is described is actually a normal uair tipper

There is a different thing which I call a reverse uair in order to have consistent terminology: you are facing the player, do the up air, and the tipper hitbox sends them the same direction you were originally facing. kind of like how a falcon reverse bair sends them in front of you.

 

[BananaBolts]

The way it is described is actually a normal uair tipper

There is a different thing which I call a reverse uair in order to have consistent terminology: you are facing the player, do the up air, and the tipper hitbox sends them the same direction you were originally facing. kind of like how a falcon reverse bair sends them in front of you.

Ahh, ok. I like that terminology better. I'll start saying u-air tipper.

 

[Cobrevolution]

i've never been a fan of tipper

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

your opinion doesnt matter cause you are quitting in 4 months

 

[linkoninja]

Tips vs Pikachu and Kirby as Falcon

Also they banned Hyrule Castle now? Why if I may ask? That use to be the most neutral stage. What happened?

 

[KeroKeroppi]

Tips vs Pikachu and Kirby as Falcon

Also they banned Hyrule Castle now? Why if I may ask? That use to be the most neutral stage. What happened?

vs pika:

if pika short hops, approach with fair > grab > combo OR upsmash

if pika jumps high, up air for days

if pika is on the ground, back air is the best aerial to use but dash dance grab is a better option

try to get the grab and combo from there

vs kirby:

unless you're 100% sure it will hit, do not approach with dash grab

bait kirby into the air and **** with up smash or aerials

falcon owns kirby in the arial AS LONG as you don't have high damage

play a patient game if you have high damage bc kirby will win every trade

if kirby is spamming up tilt first hit fair will sometimes work

falcon kick will almost always get through up tilt but is risky

use dash attack when kirby is at like >50

in general:

use your pressure to scare pika/kirby

if you can bait them into the air or an awkward position you'll take the stock

don't mess up combos or edgegaurds

use platforms to your advantage

why hyrule is banned:

a good player using a good character will not get hit if he doesn't want to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiQp5w-9IAE&list=UUrWDvHhFD-cOs-TX8nMR4vQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D52KGq4jlMQ

 

[BananaBolts]

I somehow pulled this off against Link:
dair > ledge/edge cancel > reverse hitbox ledge attack

I didn't know I was going to get the reverse hitbox lol

 

[Brocolli123]

For all your Falcon needs.

I was playing ssb 64 on my emulator trying to unlock him. I read from multiple sources you finish the 1p game in under 20 minutes any character any difficulty. I did that twice on two different difficulties as two different characters and he didn't unlock. How am I supposed to get him

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

gameshark....

 

[Brocolli123]

gameshark....

don't have gameshark...

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

don't have gameshark...

yes you do

 

[ciaza]

I was playing ssb 64 on my emulator trying to unlock him. I read from multiple sources you finish the 1p game in under 20 minutes any character any difficulty. I did that twice on two different difficulties as two different characters and he didn't unlock. How am I supposed to get him

IIRC it's 15 minutes not 20, including moments in between games.

 

[Brocolli123]

IIRC it's 15 minutes not 20, including moments in between games.

ah well I actually finished it in 14 minutes (checking through steam overlay) including extra loading times

 

[Maliki]

vs pika:

if pika short hops, approach with fair > grab > combo OR upsmash

if pika jumps high, up air for days

if pika is on the ground, back air is the best aerial to use but dash dance grab is a better option

try to get the grab and combo from there

vs kirby:

unless you're 100% sure it will hit, do not approach with dash grab

bait kirby into the air and **** with up smash or aerials

falcon owns kirby in the arial AS LONG as you don't have high damage

play a patient game if you have high damage bc kirby will win every trade

if kirby is spamming up tilt first hit fair will sometimes work

falcon kick will almost always get through up tilt but is risky

use dash attack when kirby is at like >50

in general:

use your pressure to scare pika/kirby

if you can bait them into the air or an awkward position you'll take the stock

don't mess up combos or edgegaurds

use platforms to your advantage

why hyrule is banned:

a good player using a good character will not get hit if he doesn't want to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiQp5w-9IAE&list=UUrWDvHhFD-cOs-TX8nMR4vQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D52KGq4jlMQ

Weird post from you

 

[Brocolli123]

ah well I actually finished it in 14 minutes (checking through steam overlay) including extra loading times

why is he not unlocking, it's such a pain in the ass trying to get under 15 minutes again. especially when so many people say its 20 mins

 

[Brocolli123]

IIRC it's 15 minutes not 20, including moments in between games.

YEEAAAH I got him, on very easy, the guy was one hit away from killing me

 

[Brocolli123]

For all your Falcon needs.

Hey everyone if you have the time and effort could you try add me on skype to share screens and help me with my falcon combos

 

[McGodd]

Yo, I'm sure this kind of information is buried somewhere in this thread but I'm going to ask at the end anyways.
I'm struggling in coming up with inventive ways to combo the floatier characters in the game. Specifically Jigglypuff/Samus/Loogie.

So far the main things I've been going for are combinations of bairs and reverse-uairs into death or an edge guarding situation off of platforms or grabs. My primary spacing tool has been mixing up dash pivots/dancing into aerials or grabs. Any thoughts on the matchups/what I could be doing better?
I don't particularly struggle in the match ups but they could definitely use work.

 

[Combo Blaze]

FF nairs, nairs, FF fairs, fairs, dair tech chase stuff (we melee now). Try to end each combo to where you're in a better position than they are.

 

[Maliki]

FF nairs, nairs, FF fairs, fairs, dair tech chase stuff (we melee now). Try to end each combo to where you're in a better position than they are.

Might be a stupid question but whats FF mean?

 

[Combo Blaze]

fast fall

 

[mixa]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1FQprzodZrf

 

[clubbadubba]

dair tech chase stuff.

this is probably the simplest way to deal with floaties. If I'm not going to kill or get a decent edgeguarding opportunity, I'll almost always end my guaranteed combo with a dair and then try to follow it up, preferably with another dair as that will lead to pretty much whatever you want.

An important thing with dair tech chases is to make sure that when you do it you aren't too high up in the air. If you do this, they will definitely have time to get away or even counter you, and you might get put in a really bad position (like directly above a kirby and you have no jumps left). So try to plan ahead as best you can, and if you need to stop an uair combo a few uairs early so you have more time to react to a tech chase, that's definitely okay and even preferred in some instances.

 

[_Magus_]

I'm 16 years late to the party, but here I am. XD So, any pro tips for a beginning Falcon?

 

[BananaBolts]

I'm 16 years late to the party, but here I am. XD So, any pro tips for a beginning Falcon?

Welcome to the party!

Here's a few ideas off of the top of my head:
- practice short hop -> fair/nair -> grab (there is no SHFFL)
--- this combos easily into Falcon's aerials
- get good at pivoting
--- learn to pivot off of platforms, pivot -> grab, and pivots to continue combos
- practice ledge stalling and ledge hop aerials
--- ledge hop bair/dair edgeguards are key
- u-smash is a good combo starter
- learn how to get the soft hitbox on nair to continue combos
--- also the second hit of fair is a good combo tool


Differences from other games:
- gentleman (jab 3 times) isn't too useful in this game
- up-b is a good combo finisher in this game
- you can't retain invincibility when you let go of the ledge so be careful
- no need to jump cancel grabs
- l-cancelling nullifies lag completely so get used to dashing afterwards to follow up
- use walls to continue falcon combos because there is no wall teching
- his nair is a sex kick so.. that's different
- falcon kick doesn't restore your second jump, beware

P.S. There's probably a lot more to learn but these are some tips for people switching from another version.
Also, this isn't a succinct guide to Falcon so... ask for more info

 

[_Magus_]

Welcome to the party!

Here's a few ideas off of the top of my head:
- practice short hop -> fair/nair -> grab (there is no SHFFL)
--- this combos easily into Falcon's aerials
- get good at pivoting
--- learn to pivot off of platforms, pivot -> grab, and pivots to continue combos
- practice ledge stalling and ledge hop aerials
--- ledge hop bair/dair edgeguards are key
- u-smash is a good combo starter
- learn how to get the soft hitbox on nair to continue combos
--- also the second hit of fair is a good combo tool


Differences from other games:
- gentleman (jab 3 times) isn't too useful in this game
- up-b is a good combo finisher in this game
- you can't retain invincibility when you let go of the ledge so be careful
- no need to jump cancel grabs
- l-cancelling nullifies lag completely so get used to dashing afterwards to follow up
- use walls to continue falcon combos because there is no wall teching
- his nair is a sex kick so.. that's different
- falcon kick doesn't restore your second jump, beware

P.S. There's probably a lot more to learn but these are some tips for people switching from another version.
Also, this isn't a succinct guide to Falcon so... ask for more info

Thanks for the info! I've gotten off some great combos with f throw > fair/uair > other stuff. Loving Falcon so far.
I've played 64 casually longer than any other Smash game, but going back and unlocking Falcon made me want to get better with him.

 

[BananaBolts]

I forgot to mention that Falcon's dash dance is great.

Reverse ledge dash is also good
- dash towards the ledge, quickly return the analog stick to neutral, and upon reaching the ledge, dash in the opposite direction

- it's a good mix up when you also use dash offstage -> double jump bair back onstage

 

[Kahnu]

I'll wreck everybody here's **** for 50$

 

[SmashFactionNC]

Dair to falcon punch O_o

 

[BananaBolts]

Dair to falcon punch O_o

U-air to Falcon Punch O_o

 

[breakthrough]

What is everyone's opinion on playing Falcon on Congo? I know it lacks ledge DI which is super useful for recovering (which is important as Falcon) but it also has smaller blast zones so your combos can kill easier (like a double hit fair > uair > upb on pika that wouldn't kill on DL would kill on Congo)

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

u pwn harder and get pwned harder

 

[Technical_Knockout]

congo will be going the way of hyrule soon anyways...