Learn to combo her as well as you can... if she hits you, you'll die...
Camp grabs and nair shine repeats.
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Renth
Smash Hero
hm.. i should come visit you charles.
Betrayed
Smash Ace
I'm looking for overall advice on approaching a side-step happy Mario...
Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21DejSDcuc4
And yes, I KNOW ABOUT THE STICKY! I'm looking for whats good and whats bad to do against this type of player...
Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21DejSDcuc4
And yes, I KNOW ABOUT THE STICKY! I'm looking for whats good and whats bad to do against this type of player...
Mew2King
King of the Mews
i 3 stocked chillin and forwards sheik the last 2 (4) times i played each of them at SCC
try to get up tilt fair combos going after up throw around 20-30ish % is the best range to do that. Don't let sheik dash attack you, jump backwards away from her and downair or fair/nair her. Don't let her CC down tilt to Fair you. And don't get hit with her charged needles. With this you should be fine. Sheik still ***** Marth though.
try to get up tilt fair combos going after up throw around 20-30ish % is the best range to do that. Don't let sheik dash attack you, jump backwards away from her and downair or fair/nair her. Don't let her CC down tilt to Fair you. And don't get hit with her charged needles. With this you should be fine. Sheik still ***** Marth though.
Brightside6382
Smash Lord
Mew2King did Zjiin (Damian) really almost beat you in a Marth ditto at OC3? Cause if he did thats ****ing hilarious.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
DuKe™
Smash Journeyman
how do i practice combos/
I got a few questions
How hard it is to control Marth in a competitive level? Because it seems you gotta L-cancel and measure distance (for the tips) and such.
Does Marth have any bad levels? He seems to be comfortable with almost any level the opponent could pick.
What do you think are some of Marth's best moves and why?
Does the color of Marth make the player?
How hard it is to control Marth in a competitive level? Because it seems you gotta L-cancel and measure distance (for the tips) and such.
Does Marth have any bad levels? He seems to be comfortable with almost any level the opponent could pick.
What do you think are some of Marth's best moves and why?
Does the color of Marth make the player?
Bailey
Smash Hero
I need to know where to take a Fox for counter picks because that is what I seem to have trouble with now a days. I normally ban FD against Foxes because even though I can CG them it is really easy to get ***** right back from their grabs to U-Airs. Also Cactuar where did you get your controller??
Hey Cactuar, remember me from FC? I was the Samus/Fox player who played with you at like 3 in the morning for awhile and we did like 4 player fox FFA's on Hyrule and Ic mountain XD.
How much would you sell your controller for.
XD just kidding but I really loved your controller. Green Ftw.
Also, as of today I am going to play Marth. I am going to ask FastLikeTree how to play him so I want to Marth ditto you if I ever see you again
. Next FC maybe?
How much would you sell your controller for.
XD just kidding but I really loved your controller. Green Ftw.
Also, as of today I am going to play Marth. I am going to ask FastLikeTree how to play him so I want to Marth ditto you if I ever see you again
. Next FC maybe?
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Is FLT good? I hear good things but I've never seen him play.
Lol, only a peach player would dare say something like that...
Okay, yeah, that was supid of me to say. Pretty much every character needs to L-cancel. I would change it, but I'll leave it as it is. Just to show people how stupid I am XD
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
why lcancel when you can float cancel.
lmao wait you actually are a peach player.
lmao wait you actually are a peach player.
Salaad
Smash Ace
I use C-stick or else I wouldn't be able to fastfall.
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LOL@ some of the questions in this thread.
Thanks for helping keep spam/obvious questions out of my Q&A topic Charles.
You are a true friend.
Thanks for helping keep spam/obvious questions out of my Q&A topic Charles.
You are a true friend.
Bailey
Smash Hero
I feel like spamming an Emblem Lord thread.
Cactuar are you going to VLS in CT and if so will you Bowser Ditto me?
balladechina212
Smash Ace
Cactuar, how many liters of water per year do you need to survive, since you're a cactus and all?
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
alot i'm assuming.
from what i hear he's a rather large cactus.
from what i hear he's a rather large cactus.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
and yet again i turn to the cactus for help lol
i have trouble fighting marths... their sword is soo..... sooooo goood.
lol but seriously, especially on any smaller stage with platforms that marth can utilt or fsmash over. iv watched plenty of videos where the samuses like hugz or wes try to use a lot of missles, but it dosnt work at all on smaller stages, and it seems i would have to resort to bairs. edgeguarding isnt a big issue, its just my on-stage-game.
i have trouble fighting marths... their sword is soo..... sooooo goood.
lol but seriously, especially on any smaller stage with platforms that marth can utilt or fsmash over. iv watched plenty of videos where the samuses like hugz or wes try to use a lot of missles, but it dosnt work at all on smaller stages, and it seems i would have to resort to bairs. edgeguarding isnt a big issue, its just my on-stage-game.
Salaad
Smash Ace
In Marth dittos you want to DD camp and Fthrow chaingrab and you can do whatever you want from there...
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
Cactus! its been such a mystery to me how urself, KDJ, and....umm well cant think of others right now(not @ 1am @ least) became so beast within such a short amount of time. Like you u used to be run away Fsmash guy(right?), now ur like top ten EC in a span of about 2 years-ish?(not counting this year)
I've heard stories bout back in the day, but i'd like to hear it from the source. What did you do to make sure self better back in early TSA days?
I've heard stories bout back in the day, but i'd like to hear it from the source. What did you do to make sure self better back in early TSA days?
takieddine
Smash Master
I'm assuming get wrecked a lot by pros.
figure out what you're doing wrong.
wreck noobs with your new knowledge.
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
From what I understand Cactuar had improved due to playing M2k for a long time. This obviously isn't the only reason, but playing top players a lot does make you better faster if your willing to learn through trial and mistake.
Edit: Actual question here...
I think a have a huge problem being able to adapt correctly in matches. When you enter a match with someone you haven't played before. Is there anything you look for that helps you gauge quickly certain tendencies or how well you think they can play?
Edit: Actual question here...
I think a have a huge problem being able to adapt correctly in matches. When you enter a match with someone you haven't played before. Is there anything you look for that helps you gauge quickly certain tendencies or how well you think they can play?
Well I will let you see for yourself...
FLT(fox) vs KOS-MOS(Marth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIBcguf3AdE
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
I think that MArth sucked...
but still.
I haven't seen any Marth ***** that bad in a while. That was insane.
but still.
I haven't seen any Marth ***** that bad in a while. That was insane.
You think he sucked because he got *****? lol. KOS-MOS just won MGC, a tournament that FLT,Wobbles,Trail,Dope,Watty and some other really good people were all at.
pockyD
Smash Legend
based on that video i would bet that he didn't win using marth
Nope, he beat wobbles using peach...but still. XD. Also, that was awhile ago and KOS-MOS seems much better now.
I don't feel like watching the vid, but from your description of him being side step happy my best advice is to slow down your game play. When you jump towards him, just hold back and let yourself land in sword range without doing an attack, then *important* just wait. Stuff like that. Start baiting the sidesteps rather than having him sidestep you.
Well usually, I go to the level with the big pool and practice my grinds for a bit, alternating them for the additional multipliers. Then I drop in and start doing different stalls, making sure to segue properly between moves with reverts off the aerials into other stuff. Just get used to the feeling of having maximum possible speed for max height going into the jump, then landing properly to make sure you minimize the loss of momentum.
Every character has their difficult aspects. Getting used to tipper spacing and timing for l-cancels just comes naturally over time.I got a few questions
How hard it is to control Marth in a competitive level? Because it seems you gotta L-cancel and measure distance (for the tips) and such.
Does Marth have any bad levels? He seems to be comfortable with almost any level the opponent could pick.
What do you think are some of Marth's best moves and why?
Does the color of Marth make the player?
Marth sucks on every counter pick stage. I go Fox on any stage that isn't a neutral.
I like Marth's usmash and fb. Both are underrated. Upsmash is often unexpected in a combo, allowing you to pressure an opponent into DIing above you, only to get usmash tipped to death. Fb can pick opponents up and lag them enough for you to start a combo.
I am nothing without my Cactus Marth.
I go FD, FoD, and BF vs Fox players. Just get used to using the platforms properly to assist your movement and combos and you should do fine.
2_percent from North Carolina made my controller.
FLT is very good.
I feel like people are answering questions that aren't directed towards them...
But yeah, I usually use C-stick for everything except for the first fair in a shdf unless I need to move backwards while fairing.
I should be going, and sure, I'll bowser ditto you. I suck with bowser though.
Somewhere between one and threeve.
Is there a question in here somewhere?
Again... I feel like people are answering questions that aren't directed towards them...
Yes, I used to do almost nothing but fsmash people. And I still won the majority of my matches.
I don't really know why I got better aside from playing M2K. I don't really practice that much. It just kinda comes naturally. (I've got Cactus super intelligence and adaptability.)
Just look for things they do repeatedly. Aside from that, just know your match ups and what your opponent can do with their character and you should do fine.
Scar
#HarveyDent
I think I know what Chibo is trying to ask you. Let me fix his post.
That's better.
Bailey
Smash Hero
Cactuar what is the next tournament you are attending. I gotta see your Marth again lol. Also MM? My Fox Vs your Fox best of 5 and My Marth Vs you Fox best of 5. Both for $1.
slikvik
Smash Master
im embarrassed to play peach now
anyway cactuar, at C3 i played you in pools and did decently the first match...then you tried and ***** me. if you remember, what bad habits did you pick up on? are there any safe approaches against marth?
Bailey
Smash Hero
Slikvik even though you beat me you were predictable. Granted I couldn't take advantage of it you still got to switch up your style every now and then.
Also Cactuar Sheik's what to do about them??
Also Cactuar Sheik's what to do about them??
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
lol scars pretty much got it right there. what i meant though was what should i do as samus to help beat marths. or if you would rather me phrase it into a more marth question: what kind of samus things is marth weak to?
Mew2King
King of the Mews
I don't recall anyone almost beating me in a Marth ditto at OC3
Scar
#HarveyDent
Thanks M2K. You're my favorite, too.Mew2King on me playing Falco last night said: