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Smash Ace
May I just say: awesome idea?
Props to KoSa!
Props to KoSa!
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DK's Tie Closet | Matchup Index | Make Exports People
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Ranor469
Smash Apprentice
I'm curious to know if anyone thinks that any other characters beside Chaingrab, Olimar, MK, and Wario have a 60:40 advantage over DK or greater
Scabe
Successful Businessman
Haha yeah, it'll be hard to continue this without destroying the thread with MS Paint skills. Man, Kosa was pretty amazing, shame he left.
I'm guessing KoSa is the one with the tie layout? If I had that and Photoshop activated I could help you guys out.
But, you could just make the thread exports simple links for now, and see if anyone else can recreate a similar idea.
But, you could just make the thread exports simple links for now, and see if anyone else can recreate a similar idea.
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
i have links to some of the ties
Show me what you got.
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
Scabe
Successful Businessman
Oh wow, we could totally continue then. If anyone wants to volunteer let me know and I'll hand over ownership.
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
sweet, i would love to see this get picked up again. I also need to work on my stage thread which also is using these ties, hopefully i can get it running again
Neon!
Smash Lord
Those ties wouldn't be that hard to make/edit, once we finish discussing a matchup I can make the tie for it.
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
well i can give you the link neon, all ya gots to do really is add the color to match the MU
crifer
Smash Lord
start with IC´s, please. And a good video example against a Top IC would be needed.
Cable
Smash Lord
What did the ratio in the BBR chart say of DK vs IC?
Idk I kind of believe IC's win by a little Lain did beat Will at Pound and I've lost to Lain before also pound does stop IC's ground game but IC's should see that coming and punish that in some other way.
Not too sure Ripple you have more knowledge in this MU then I do you should educate me right now lol
Idk I kind of believe IC's win by a little Lain did beat Will at Pound and I've lost to Lain before also pound does stop IC's ground game but IC's should see that coming and punish that in some other way.
Not too sure Ripple you have more knowledge in this MU then I do you should educate me right now lol
Scabe
Successful Businessman
Here's the chart and the link in case you haven't seen it yet:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=298484
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=298484
Nice one, CG! If someone can fill in the Snake and Marth ties with the Even coloring, I could get the links worked out.
I'm all for starting an IC match-up thread. I don't understand that match-up, really. All I know is that we kill Nana quick and painless as soon as their separated.
I'm all for starting an IC match-up thread. I don't understand that match-up, really. All I know is that we kill Nana quick and painless as soon as their separated.
Ranor469
Smash Apprentice
when are we starting ICs?!
and what do we think of the BBR chart for DK? it seems that the BBR thinks that our MUs are worse than we thought they were in over half the MUs. They think that Kirby, Lucario, GW, Ike, Sonic and Yoshi are even, and we thought we had the advantage in every single one of those in our matchup cheat sheet. Why is there such a discrepancy?
and what do we think of the BBR chart for DK? it seems that the BBR thinks that our MUs are worse than we thought they were in over half the MUs. They think that Kirby, Lucario, GW, Ike, Sonic and Yoshi are even, and we thought we had the advantage in every single one of those in our matchup cheat sheet. Why is there such a discrepancy?
Sky Pirate
The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
Nooooot really sure if this is the right place to post this, but the Olimars are discussing D.K.
There was a lot of talk about the match-up after that RichBrown v. Will drama, but it seemed to be mostly about that planking stuff.
I've been told it's a very unique match-up, but my experience is somewhat limited (only Ripple and Will, once each). ^^;
There was a lot of talk about the match-up after that RichBrown v. Will drama, but it seemed to be mostly about that planking stuff.
I've been told it's a very unique match-up, but my experience is somewhat limited (only Ripple and Will, once each). ^^;
CaLibUr_1337
Smash Lord
What happened to this thread? Everything on Page 1 is gone We need this stickied if the info comes back.
We need this stickied if the info comes back.
CaLibUr_1337
Smash Lord
All of the exports are gone. I know there was good info about olimar and D3 on the first page. I'd like to discuss MK, Olimar, IC's, ROB and ZSS in particular right now.
Also hopefully they'll be more vids of good DK's owning a massive variety of characters soon :D
Also hopefully they'll be more vids of good DK's owning a massive variety of characters soon :D
Scabe
Successful Businessman
Click the ties and it'll take you to the exports, too bad there's only two exports
(Olimar and King Dedede). Wish Kosa never left, he did such a good job with this thread.
CaLibUr_1337
Smash Lord
If people start talking about matchups again I'd have a go at uploading the ties XD
Also I can't see any ties. The OP is blank
Also I can't see any ties. The OP is blank
CaLibUr_1337
Smash Lord
Anyone wanna discuss the Zamus matchup?
i1337
Smash Ace
Needs more Olimar discussion.
minus snake since that was kind of recent.
When the Zamus discussion seems to have finished or slowed down, we can go ahead and make another thread for another match-up. I suppose MK would be a good place to start since you all want top tiers :v.
Olimar's easy.
When the Zamus discussion seems to have finished or slowed down, we can go ahead and make another thread for another match-up. I suppose MK would be a good place to start since you all want top tiers :v.
Olimar's easy.
CaLibUr_1337
Smash Lord
Olimar has just been done so there's no need to rediscuss atm
CaLibUr_1337
Smash Lord
Go Sold :3 I have a tourney this weekend so MK discussion is probably a good idea haha.
Ruinn
Smash Ace
We need tgo fill in more/all ties
Seriously, you can lock/delete this after but we really need to start filling in the ties, having knowledge for every character as dk can really bosst our metagame
Seriously, you can lock/delete this after but we really need to start filling in the ties, having knowledge for every character as dk can really bosst our metagame
Luigi player
Smash Master
Hey guys, because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRynqdwe8ew
You can not only attack Pit through his mirror shield if he does it to protect himself from attacks (which Pits like never do anyway), BUT you can also not get reflected with your upB! Just turn around so you're facing away from the stage (by punchcharge cancel or sideB) and then upB while facing away.
I'm not sure if DK can reverse upB to face the other direction again so maybe watch out for that lol. But it didn't happen to me while I tested this a few times.
Anyway he can't reverse your momentum anymore so you don't get gimped which is great! Just watch out for arrows that turn you around again though...
You can not only attack Pit through his mirror shield if he does it to protect himself from attacks (which Pits like never do anyway), BUT you can also not get reflected with your upB! Just turn around so you're facing away from the stage (by punchcharge cancel or sideB) and then upB while facing away.
I'm not sure if DK can reverse upB to face the other direction again so maybe watch out for that lol. But it didn't happen to me while I tested this a few times.
Anyway he can't reverse your momentum anymore so you don't get gimped which is great! Just watch out for arrows that turn you around again though...
Yeah, someone told me about that yesterday! No more gimping from pit, and that's a big deal. And even if the arrow turns us around, I'm fairly sure we can reverse the up-b on it's own, just like other characters. It's just not noticeable most of the time.
Luigi player
Smash Master
I tried turning around at the start of upB (in the air) and it didn't seem to work.
1PokeMastr
Smash Champion
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You aren't able to change the direction that Dk is facing while doing your Up B in mid air.
This is because you have free control over horizontal movement from left to right and right to left.
All you have to do is hit Up B -> Then Hold away from Pit when he tries to mirror shield you, it'll "reflect" your input and move you toward the stage.
It's like Mario's cape. Just do a Headbutt away from the stage ( make sure you have your jump ) if Mario capes you, he gets spiked. Then you can recover.
However. This is why Pits wait for Dk to be already recovering toward the stage before they mirror shield. Again.. just hold away if you're about to be and you'll continue on to the stage.
IMPORTANT!
Make sure you let go of "Away" and hold toward the stage after you're reflected. Or else You will move back in that direction! ( The reflecting portion only lasts for so long ).
This is because you have free control over horizontal movement from left to right and right to left.
All you have to do is hit Up B -> Then Hold away from Pit when he tries to mirror shield you, it'll "reflect" your input and move you toward the stage.
It's like Mario's cape. Just do a Headbutt away from the stage ( make sure you have your jump ) if Mario capes you, he gets spiked. Then you can recover.
However. This is why Pits wait for Dk to be already recovering toward the stage before they mirror shield. Again.. just hold away if you're about to be and you'll continue on to the stage.
IMPORTANT!
Make sure you let go of "Away" and hold toward the stage after you're reflected. Or else You will move back in that direction! ( The reflecting portion only lasts for so long ).
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
So if you're facing left and you hold up+right and press B, you won't be facing right once the upB is started?
1PokeMastr
Smash Champion
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That is correct.
It's Similar to Falco's reflector.. kind of.
It's Similar to Falco's reflector.. kind of.
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