DMG's Wario Guide Stuff Blah Stuff

[RPK]

For you guys, Wolf shouldnt be 60:40. It should be 80:20, or something ridiculously high for you guys. In addition some other match ups should also sway in your favor.

on ganon
down throw x n > forward throw (0~80%)
on falco
down throw x n > forward throw (52~130%)
up to 52%, falco can get out by holding shield
from about 73%, down throw needs to be diminished
from about 120% falco can get out
on wolf
down throw x n > forward throw (20~230%)
up till about 20% wolf can get out by down B
from about 220% wolf can get out by down B
on bowser
down throw x n > down B (0~180%+)
up to 168%, everything could be buffered
from 169%, wario can continue the chaingrab by walking (not recommended)


-characters i dont know the %

on dk
down throw x n > forward throw
on captain falcon
down throw x n > forward throw

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=12813 (Source of the information) Thank you Michael Hey!

 

[stnapknah]

For you guys, Wolf shouldnt be 60:40. It should be 80:20, or something ridiculously high for you guys. In addition some other match ups should also sway in your favor.

on ganon
down throw x n > forward throw (0~80%)
on falco
down throw x n > forward throw (52~130%)
up to 52%, falco can get out by holding shield
from about 73%, down throw needs to be diminished
from about 120% falco can get out
on wolf
down throw x n > forward throw (20~230%)
up till about 20% wolf can get out by down B
from about 220% wolf can get out by down B
on bowser
down throw x n > down B (0~180%+)
up to 168%, everything could be buffered
from 169%, wario can continue the chaingrab by walking (not recommended)


-characters i dont know the %

on dk
down throw x n > forward throw
on captain falcon
down throw x n > forward throw

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=12813 (Source of the information) Thank you Michael Hey!

That is great, thanks for posting it. Boozer can up-B out of it, however.
DK's is from 0-100%

 

[PhantomX]

Yeah, Fiction and I knew about this, but we're too lazy to incorporate or abuse it, lol.

 

[BentoBox]

Gee thx fiction >=[ lol

<3 RPK

I hate how most, if not all, of the new discoveries revolve around grabs and CGs... It's getting dull.

 

[RPK]

Well, these Chaingrabs are actually pretty old =\ They were discovered around May or March of LAST YEAR.

 

[nothing.]

Yeah, Fiction and I knew about this, but we're too lazy to incorporate or abuse it, lol.

wow, fiction is still not using this?
so i taught him how to do it for nothing?
that makes me kind of sad...

 

[BentoBox]

Well, these Chaingrabs are actually pretty old =\ They were discovered around May or March of LAST YEAR.

Which just shows how dead these forums are D: All this kind of info should've been compiled into a thread long ago~

 

[ssbbFICTION]

I thought this was commonly known lol.

 

[BentoBox]

For ppl who've mained Wario since day one, maybeh.

I picked him up 3 weeks ago ;_;

 

[ssbbFICTION]

get ***** bentobox loooool

 

[Gichan]

Thing is, I remember when these cgs were posted up and people tested them and supposedly they did not work at all, especially against the spacies. Only one worth using was the cg against DK and Ganon. Did something else come up after that thread? Like do those cgs work now? Please answer homies.

 

[PhantomX]

People were doing the ones from 0, these have to be buffered starting at higher percentages, like the Pikachu ones.

 

[BentoBox]

get ***** bentobox loooool

I demand extra catching up lessons!

 

[stormwarning]

Will someone explain what it means to buffer a throw? I am thoroughly confused.

 

[Gichan]

So how high of percentage are we talking? 50%?

 

[PikaPika898]

THe Wario Waft Dose have a big hitbox but its only a big hit box when the fart is the bigest it could be

 

[===L/W===]

lol. wut that was confusing

 

[:mad:]

I think he was just saying "Waft has a large hitbox, but it's biggest while charged."

 

[smashkng]

I found a Wario combo on Lucas as finisher. I force him to ground release and immediately forward smash (which has enough range to hit Lucas). Is this a good idea? Is this escapable?

 

[PhantomX]

I believe Lucas can just barely escape it, but Ness can't!

 

[smashkng]

Captain Falcon can chain grab Wario, by air release dair,jab, regrab, but it's not so easy for him because the range is short, also he can air release into sweetspotted knee, otherwise Wario beats him.

 

[FB Dj_Iskascribble]

after a while you can tech the d-air, and when is the matchup summaries going to be updated? i keep looking for them to be for a while and i dont see anything new

 

[smashkng]

Wario has poor attack range, but his grab range is very long. I like both dtrow chain grab and forward throw.
I don't know if he would be on top 5 if he had a better grab release.

 

[:mad:]

Grab releases don't affect Wario in a big way, maybe grab release Fsmash could be big, but it's nothing we can't overcome.

Now grab releases on Wario are among the most famous, notably because it's an easy way to finish off a Wario.

 

[PhantomX]

Wario has poor attack range, but his grab range is very long. I like both dtrow chain grab and forward throw.
I don't know if he would be on top 5 if he had a better grab release.

Wario's grounded attack range is MASSIVE, he just suffers from poor horizontal aerial range (save for backair).

 

[Makai369]

the intro of the guide was pretty powerful

 

[ssbbFICTION]

sigh...dmg you still havent changed it

its

"here there be monsters"

lol

 

[rofljont]

the begining of this post with the purple and yellow is really annoying

 

[PhantomX]

DMG, start updating this or I'm going to just merge your amazing intro with MC's guide and close/unsticky this one -_-

 

[stnapknah]

nice failguide

 

[DMG]

OK UPDATES GOGOGOGOGOGO

There my guide is now not fail.

 

[Zori]

thanks for the tips dmg!

 

[Gichan]

What was updated lunchpacker?

 

[Shadow 111]

wow, the matchup chart makes wario seem to be 2nd best in the game O_O. i hope it is all accurate.
a lot of useful information though, wario is a lot of fun and i will definitely main him if mk gets banned lol.
the only thing i am having trouble believing is DDD vs wario >_<. how can it possibly be wario's favor?
the wario can put up a good fight trying not to get grabbed... but he can't seem to completely avoid getting grabbed... and once he does it's cg to up smash every time... this racks up a lot of damage and can lead to an easily kill.
also, what can wario do against DDD's bair? doesn't it outrange all of wario's moves ?

 

[PhantomX]

Wario has very few bad matchups, this is true, but DMG's guide is biased poop

Marth, D3, Peach (maybe) are really Wario's only hard matchups, but they're not like WOAHMG Hard, they're like 60:40 tops. We believe he deserves top 3 in the game.

 

[Shadow 111]

Alright, good to know. i would like to see a wario beat a marth =/.. whenever i see that matchup it's just marth being stupidly good lol.

 

[Popertop]

you should watch mah boi CY play a marth.

at WHOBO he beat every marth he played.

they call him the Marth Slayer

 

[Gichan]

Who's CY? And does that stand for somehting?

 

[Popertop]

*facepalm*

he's a new wario player. pretty good.
he's also my teammate.

 

[Zori]

dmg beat mikehaze at whobo