DotA 2: 6.83 patch, The International 5 on the way!

[DJCrinkleCut]

Wand is an amazing item in all games on all heroes. Useful active + slot efficient stats? Hell yeah!

Ew Lycan jungle. If you want to play Lycan run him safelane. When you have to suicide to be efficient, you know there is a problem.

I'm not too fond of the soul ring recipe start, I'll do it on Dark Seer if I feel like it will be an easy lane for me. It's most certainly not required though.

I don't play much Timber, but Mana Boots early game > Bloodstone is usually the way to go. Oh, and when you're getting the soul booster make sure to disassemble the mana boots to get the energy booster back instead of buying another one. Radiance seems very situational on him.

Also, every item is situational. Part of your ability to play Dota is to analyze the match and buy what you think is best.

EDIT - I run Furion hardlane. I've done him mid on radiant a couple times, it was okay. I just used Treants to push up the wave, then went and farmed the medium or hard camp, then went back to lane.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Jungle kinda bleh

 

[Lizalfos]

Is a mid Doom inferior to a Jungle Doom? I wanted to run mix doom for early ultimate. Random people in pubs forced me to jungle with branches in my inventory.

 

[Sinz]

Is a mid Doom inferior to a Jungle Doom? I wanted to run mix doom for early ultimate. Random people in pubs forced me to jungle with branches in my inventory.

Laning will almost always have better payoff than the jungle. Doom jungle is really vulnerable.

Living the dream. Full baller mode wraith king. Beat a few 5ks in that game too which made me feel better. :D

Also in other news TB jungle is actually legit

 

[Lizalfos]

When techies come out I'm not playing them for the 1st week.

 

[DJCrinkleCut]

Is a mid Doom inferior to a Jungle Doom? I wanted to run mix doom for early ultimate. Random people in pubs forced me to jungle with branches in my inventory.

I think that most heroes suck jungle lvl 1 unless it's a Chen or an Enchantress. As of this patch (which will hopefully be over soon) I think Doom is best in the offlane. His ability to secure farm no matter how hard the lane in addition to how flexible he is with items let him fit in to many lineups.

Mid Doom is okay, but he has a tough time against a lot of common mid heroes.

When techies come out I'm not playing them for the 1st week.

I'm just going to avoid AP altogether. If I get him in SD or RD, then why not.

Also in other news TB jungle is actually legit

Really? Do you like... Meta the hard camp or something?

 

[Mic_128]

I think that most heroes suck jungle lvl 1 unless it's a Chen or an Enchantress.

Enigma wants a word with you.

Went to edit the thread title and had to chuckle at this being the second post.

I heard they weren't gonna port techies, confirm/deny??

 

[DJCrinkleCut]

Enigma wants a word with you.

Went to edit the thread title and had to chuckle at this being the second post.

Oh right, Enigma, forgot about him.
I sat there for like 5 minutes making sure I wasn't forgetting anyone, 'course I did :x

Also, is it wrong that I'm more hype for the Techies announcer than I am for Techies themselves?
I just love their VA so much.

 

[Lizalfos]

I just want to play deathmatch and do the hero challenge.

 

[Sinz]

I just want to play deathmatch and do the hero challenge.

All I want is 6.82

likerealbadly

 

[Lizalfos]

All of my friends have about 500 invis MMR. How do I carry and support every game I play?

 

[DJCrinkleCut]

All I want is 6.82

likerealbadly

I remember when I thought it was a breath of fresh air to see Brew in a pro match.

All of my friends have about 500 invis MMR. How do I carry and support every game I play?

Not exactly sure what you're asking .-.

 

[Lizalfos]

I need to do both simultaneously. Maybe I need to win every game before my team can feed.

 

[DJCrinkleCut]

I need to do both simultaneously. Maybe I need to win every game before my team can feed.

If they're okay with it, order them around, play like you're the captain.

 

[Sinz]

I remember when I thought it was a breath of fresh air to see Brew in a pro match.

Not exactly sure what you're asking .-.

I still like seeing Brew in matches. I feel like he encourages smart and interactive game play. I don't like seeing Tinker because he encourages heavy turtling and mindless chasing. While Void and Sky Wraith just encourage hit and run engagements until you hit maximum capacity. =/

I'm not a fan of those three right now. Brew is fine tho.

Razor is an issue because he just outright ruins half of the cast in the laning phase and makes for kind of boring(I hate using that word to describe this) game play in the laning phase.

Same thing with Viper but he falls off so hard that I don't mind.

THESE ARE MY OPINIONS.

edit:

I need to do both simultaneously. Maybe I need to win every game before my team can feed.

Not actually that big of a deal. If you can secure farm and can buy wards and communicate to them where to place them you should be ok. The biggest differences in mmr play is farming rotations and knowing when to fight. If you can yell enough it should work out.

 

[Lizalfos]

I played against Viper with Mirana and he is an absolute nightmare when your team can't communicate. Even in the late game he bought heart and nobody wanted to focus him. He just needed to slow everyone every fight and ult somebody to win fights throughout the game.
It was the dumbest.

 

[DJCrinkleCut]

So Techies is a thing.
Would much rather have 6.82, but I guess this is alright.
I kind of want to get absurdly good at Techies just to be that guy. Don't know if I can do that at my 3k MMR scrubbiness though. Ah well, ofta the pubs I go.

 

[Lizalfos]

This is good. Once I'm done with the week at least SOME of the Techies hype will have blown over.

 

[wedl!!]

All of my friends have about 500 invis MMR. How do I carry and support every game I play?

instapick pubscrubbers and get 30 kills

trust me you can do it I believe in you

 

[Lizalfos]

instapick pubscrubbers and get 30 kills

trust me you can do it I believe in you

I've done it before. The most OP pub heros are the supports. Nobody can ruin your lane, and if someone catches on to the fact that you are helping them, then you can have 2 fed heros on your team. Enigma, Shadow Damon , Rubick, Sandking, Princess of the Moon, Earth Shaker. Dumb hardlaners are also great. Undy, clockwork, Axe, NP, Timbersnack, Sniffle Back, and the list goes on. I also have won all 5 of my Riki games.

 

[wedl!!]

priestess supp on a pub

lol

 

[Lizalfos]

Techies are such a dumb hero. Not even riki level annoyance. The only thing that is funny is when someone is playing techies on my team and I get to see the enemy walk onto literally every mine around them. Never stops being funny.

As far as dumb pub heros, Pudge can likely get more kills, but I guess fed techies have ridiculous late game.

 

[Sinz]

Techies are such a dumb hero. Not even riki level annoyance. The only thing that is funny is when someone is playing techies on my team and I get to see the enemy walk onto literally every mine around them. Never stops being funny.

As far as dumb pub heros, Pudge can likely get more kills, but I guess fed techies have ridiculous late game.

I really dislike Techies. I wish he just stayed out of D2 tbh. Not even because of the hero but the mentality everyone has around him. That mentality WON'T die.

 

[Lizalfos]

The never buy detection mentality?

If Techies can be in Dota 2 then why can't I have Pichu PMDT?

 

[Sinz]

The never buy detection mentality?

If Techies can be in Dota 2 then why can't I have Pichu PMDT?

Haha.

<3 my bracket because they buy detection a ton.

 

[Mic_128]

Had a game yesterday where techies was strategically picked last to avoid counterpicks. As disruptor I just got a gem after arcanes and we were wrecking them the rest of the game.

 

[Lizalfos]

Haha.

<3 my bracket because they buy detection a ton.

I always support in games where I'm up against invis heroes or junglers. It is really fun to ruin the day of someone who thinks they will win their lane as Riki or jungle without any resistance.

@ Mic_128 Other than Zeus and maybe Aghs KotL, don't you counterpick techies with gem anyway?

I can see Techies as a counter to other pubstomp heros like Riki and Slark. I think techies hardlane is also amazing if you play it right. I know that if you just stack ancients you can make up a lot of the farm Techies misses normally.

Zeus is so fun to destroy invis heroes with, especially Brood. Thank you based Icefrog for point target Lightning Bolt.

 

[Mic_128]

@ Mic_128 Other than Zeus and maybe Aghs KotL, don't you counterpick techies with gem anyway?

Abaddon, Nature's Prophet, Lycan and Lone Druid are pretty apt at countering him too.

 

[Lizalfos]

So late game Antimage would just destroy Techies with his magic resist, huh? I know how I'm spending my weekend.

 

[Sinz]

Just got beast master and get an early Gem. It's the easiest counter honestly.

 

[Lizalfos]

Nah, Beast + Techies combo is imba. All you need is to stack ancients with Techies and have BoT farmed at around 15 min. Beast can then send in the bird near their fountain. Every time you kill somebody they die twice in a row. Later game, backdoor towers with this strategy.

In all seriousness though Techs make for decent pushers, so they aren't completely worthless.

 

[Sinz]

Nah, Beast + Techies combo is imba. All you need is to stack ancients with Techies and have BoT farmed at around 15 min. Beast can then send in the bird near their fountain. Every time you kill somebody they die twice in a row. Later game, backdoor towers with this strategy.

In all seriousness though Techs make for decent pushers, so they aren't completely worthless.

Them bombs do some deeps

 

[DJCrinkleCut]

I like playing Techies a lot. There is some sort of childlike glee that I get from asploding people.

That and the first blood silliness that you can pull off with Suicide Squad is pretty great. Techies + Tusk anyone?

 

[Sinz]

I like playing Techies a lot. There is some sort of childlike glee that I get from asploding people.

That and the first blood silliness that you can pull off with Suicide Squad is pretty great. Techies + Tusk anyone?

Techies vs Tusk got patched :*( but snowball suicide is still fun...

 

[Lizalfos]

What did the patch do to nerf it?

 

[Sinz]

What did the patch do to nerf it?

You can't pick up mines anymore.

 

[Mic_128]

Not surprising, since you could one-shot towers using it.

 

[Sinz]

Not surprising, since you could one-shot towers using it.

Yeah but the shenanigans were so fun.

 

[Lizalfos]

Woah, that must have been unintended. Does that mean that If NP is on my team I can send tons of Treeants into my snowball and do absurd damage? Engima, NP, and Tusk as an aggro-trilane confirmed to be real?
@ Mic_128 What is wrong with your title under your username? Strong Bad's is written in broken english too, but with more brony.

 

[Mic_128]

A friend made a bunch of us avatars in paint while, uh, intoxicated, and me and Strongbad liked the drunken descriptions of them