Social "For my Father" - Lucina Social Thread

[A17]

So I was doing some calcs, thought I'd share this.

Just curious. Are you taking the hard data that's on the web or using your own found numbers and working out the values?

I was interested to learn about how much hit stun each attack does in the following string, because I want to know how much time the opponent has between each attack to do something:

SH DB > nair > fsmash.

Learned of this one from another user who posted a video here long ago.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

idk im using numbers and calcs and stuff

 

[Deleted member]

I don't mind phoenix mode too much. It's for those who find the game too challenging and just want to relax with it or those who want to get a feel of a visual novel. If Nohr does end up being super hard, maybe I'll try that mode then but sometimes I'm up for a challenge so phoenix probably won't be my first choice.

 

[Robertman2]

Pheonix mode + Lunatic+ = Kenny McCormick mode

 

[Locuan]

Pheonix mode + Lunatic+ = Kenny McCormick mode

I understood that reference? You are able to revive thus easy mode? D:

 

[Robertman2]

I understood that reference? You are able to revive thus easy mode? D:

No, everyone is going to be like Kenny in South Park. Constantly dying and then coming back

 

[Gokart48]

No, everyone is going to be like Kenny in South Park. Constantly dying and then coming back

"Oh my gosh. You killed Kenny! You bleep"

Playing on lunatic and Phoenix mode seems like the dumbest thing I have ever heard. What is even the point anymore?

 

[ぱみゅ]

I don't mind phoenix mode too much. It's for those who find the game too challenging and just want to relax with it or those who want to get a feel of a visual novel. If Nohr does end up being super hard, maybe I'll try that mode then but sometimes I'm up for a challenge so phoenix probably won't be my first choice.

I often pick the hardest difficulty on a game and adapt to it no matter if I lose a lot at the beginning, all under the premise of "I'll eventually have to play this anyway".
I often regret it, too, like Silent Hill 1 the first time I played it. ****.

 

[DrCactus]

"Oh my gosh. You killed Kenny! You bleep"

Playing on lunatic and Phoenix mode seems like the dumbest thing I have ever heard. What is even the point anymore?

Eh, Phoenix mode can be a nice way for people to test the waters for just what kind of stuff they'll expect to see in Lunatic.
It can also be a good way to see just how far a character can be pushed, since you essentially can just Super grind with 1 character.

 

[Locuan]

Eh, Phoenix mode can be a nice way for people to test the waters for just what kind of stuff they'll expect to see in Lunatic.
It can also be a good way to see just how far a character can be pushed, since you essentially can just Super grind with 1 character.

I still super grind with one or two characters regardless. The Avatar is too good in Awakening.

 

[Lord_Espurr]

Ok so I was looking at different character's Run Turnaround Cancel (I can't post links yet so look it up on YouTube) and I found that Lucina's jab will retain momentum while Marth's jab will not. I've upload videos of both of them doing this to the 3ds titled RTAC if you want proof.
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but the differences thread was closed.

 

[Locuan]

Ok so I was looking at different character's Run Turnaround Cancel (I can't post links yet so look it up on YouTube) and I found that Lucina's jab will retain momentum while Marth's jab will not. I've upload videos of both of them doing this to the 3ds titled RTAC if you want proof.
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but the differences thread was closed.

Turn around cancel? Perfect Pivot?

 

[Lord_Espurr]

No it's a little different. I'm Not the best at explaining but you run, turn around, and then once your charecters has started moving in the other direction, but before the go into the run animation you let go of the control stick and they will slide a lit bit. During this slide they are registered in a neutral state so they can do tilts and smashes. Some moves will make them stop (f tilt) and some will let the slide a little (d smash) the video said that it was different than a perfect pivot so if I'm wrong then blame the video.

 

[Locuan]

No it's a little different. I'm Not the best at explaining but you run, turn around, and then once your charecters has started moving in the other direction, but before the go into the run animation you let go of the control stick and they will slide a lit bit. During this slide they are registered in a neutral state so they can do tilts and smashes. Some moves will make them stop (f tilt) and some will let the slide a little (d smash) the video said that it was different than a perfect pivot so if I'm wrong then blame the video.

Yep definitely sounds like perfect pivoting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaR4RM-qr0

 

[Lord_Espurr]

The inputs are the same but the time between them is different. At the cost of being easier it is more telegraphed .Here is the script form the video:

When you change direction during a Run, your character will go into a turning animation. This animation has many unique properties that can be very useful.

Anytime after you have started moving in the opposite direction, letting go of the Control Stick will give you the equivalent of true neutral position while still sliding from any momentum built up. While a normal Run prevents you from using Jabs, Tilts, standing Grabs, and most Smashes, this allows the Run Turnaround to give you increased movement speed without limiting your options.

Certain options will maintain momentum even after you start an attack, giving you similar benefits as the Perfect Pivot while facing the opponent.

When used at the ledge, some characters get a significant increase in potential sliding distance.

If you wait too long, your character will go from the Run Turnaround animation into a full Run, limiting your options again. Different characters have varying animation lengths, so its flexibility is largely character-dependent.

Because you can start another Run from the neutral position, this can be canceled into itself as a spacing tool for baiting potential. Combined with the flexibility you have in when to go into a sliding neutral position, this increases unpredictability and burst range in a way that should be incredibly useful for some characters.

It will become much clearer if you watch the video.

 

[Reckless4Christ]

So you input an attack during turnaround lag and it allows you to slide? Is that basically what all that said?
Edit:Nvm I tried it for myself. It's between turnaround lag and the dash. So it's not a perfect pivot

 

[Locuan]

Ah, wow I hadn't heard about that for some reason; I found the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zumpzuCnG64

Interesting. I'll have to test the differences you mentioned @ Lord_Espurr since this is completely new to me.

 

[Lord_Espurr]

Yeah it's funny how things travel. This has been in the Wii fit board for at least two months (and is the main reason I made this account). I think the moves that carry their momentum are jab( Lucina's only) sheild breaker, dsmash, and usmash.

 

[Macchiato]

@ Locuan I'm trying to update the tournament thread but everytime I do it, more than one spoiler always comes up. Why you do this smashboards.

 

[Locuan]

@ Locuan I'm trying to update the tournament thread but everytime I do it, more than one spoiler always comes up. Why you do this smashboards.

I think I fixed it. Try again.

 

[DrCactus]

Anybody in this thread get a Lucina Amiibo? Amurrica doesn't get her until the 29th

 

[Robertman2]

Anybody in this thread get a Lucina Amiibo? Amurrica doesn't get her until the 29th

I have due to come in next week, along with and

 

[Sol0ke]

Is Lucina gonna be one of those rare amiibos? I'm already having a hard time getting Meta Knight.

 

[Macchiato]

I have a Zelda amiibo

 

[Moydow]

Is Lucina gonna be one of those rare amiibos? I'm already having a hard time getting Meta Knight.

Yup. The only remotely common ones from the current wave are Charizard and Wario. If you wanted anything else, you'd have needed to preorder.

 

[Robertman2]

Is Lucina gonna be one of those rare amiibos? I'm already having a hard time getting Meta Knight.

YES

 

[Macchiato]

Lucina was sold out before I could've preordered. Not many people bought Zelda in my region so there are a bunch, I guess people just don't have a good taste in waifus.

 

[Robertman2]

Lucina was sold out before I could've preordered. Not many people bought Zelda in my region so there are a bunch, I guess people just don't have a good taste in waifus.

I see Zelda's everywhere, and it's kinda annoying

 

[DrCactus]

Lucina was sold out before I could've preordered. Not many people bought Zelda in my region so there are a bunch, I guess people just don't have a good taste in waifus.

Nah, it's not because of people buying them, it's just Zelda being one of Ninty's big franchises so they want those characters to always be in stock.

Is Lucina gonna be one of those rare amiibos? I'm already having a hard time getting Meta Knight.

Best Buy has a Meta Knight restock planned for May 29th, and sometime in July, so keep your eyes peeled

 

[Funkermonster]

8 more days til' wave 4 amiibo come out. I have Lucina preordered from Gamestop in the 6 pack along with everyone but Greninja and Jigglypuff, and my mom went through a ton of trouble to get it so I hope it doesn't get cancelled. Its supposed to be delivered to my home on June 8th and doesn't seem to have been cancelled yet, but I'm impatient and can't wait for that. I'm gonna be camping at Target to try and get (the only wave 4 figurine I couldn't pre-order), and if they gonna sell Lucina and/or the other wave 4s too, I'm grabbing one immediately. She's literally the amiibo I've been waiting for the most aside from and they're both gonna be in the same wave! *squeals in excitement* !!! So hyped! One way or another I must have them.

Also, I've lately been seeing a LOT of Lucinas on For Glory using the Cherche palette, which happens to be my favorite color for her and my favorite female character in FE:A? That palette is more popular than I thought...

 

[Sol0ke]

I've been seeing a lot more Lucinas on For Glory in general

 

[Gokart48]

If you haven't preordered, and you don't go to the stores that sell wave 4 at 5 in the morning on the 29th, then chances are you will have to pay double or triple the price for her Amiibo on Ebay or Amazon :/

The chances of me getting any of wave 4 depends on how insanely high the scalpers want to bludgeon me.

 

[DrCactus]

For what you pay for a scalped Lucina Amiibo, you'd be better off just getting her figma tbh

 

[Lichi]

For what you pay for a scalped Lucina Amiibo, you'd be better off just getting her figma tbh

That's the way to go.

 

[Robertman2]

They came in!

 

[ぱみゅ]

You guys at least are in the right Country
We here only get leftovers. And they still fly from shelves. I only found a Sheik by chance, and there are lots of Mario, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Pikachu, Zelda, and Luigi. Specially Luigi.

 

[DrCactus]

They look fantastic. I won't be getting Lucina until the 29th I think. No idea when Playasia will ship out my Robin either.

You guys at least are in the right Country
We here only get leftovers. And they still fly from shelves. I only found a Sheik by chance, and there are lots of Mario, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Pikachu, Zelda, and Luigi. Specially Luigi.

I went to gamestop last week in the hope of finding a restocked Marth, and all I found was a wall with 16 Luigis on it

 

[Robertman2]

You guys at least are in the right Country
We here only get leftovers. And they still fly from shelves. I only found a Sheik by chance, and there are lots of Mario, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Pikachu, Zelda, and Luigi. Specially Luigi.

I can't even find Yoshi

 

[Funkermonster]

One time I was looking for in a Toys R Us, I found in there and didn't buy him .And now Mac is like $70 on ebay.... Dammit.

Now all I keep seeing is everywhere and I haven't bought a new amiibo in forever. I so cannot wait for next Friday and I sooo wish i could fast forward time to June 8th so I can get my delivery already, with and , two figurines I've been waiting for! Looking at the figma everybody's talking about, Lucina actually looks very nice and maybe when i move out next year I'll get it.

 

[Robertman2]

One time I was looking for in a Toys R Us, I found in there and didn't buy him .And now Mac is like $70 on ebay.... Dammit.

Now all I keep seeing is everywhere and I haven't bought a new amiibo in forever. I so cannot wait for next Friday and I sooo wish i could fast forward time to June 8th so I can get my delivery already, with and , two figurines I've been waiting for! Looking at the figma everybody's talking about, Lucina actually looks very nice and maybe when i move out next year I'll get it.

I nearly made that mistake with