How about Japan Ganondolf Videos?

rihuganon · Nov 3, 2008

Ganon Tournament

パブぱぶ vs ３ばいそく
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLY4R_bJhaw&NR=1
niku vs ３ばいそく Part1
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=lnAVb21fg3U
niku vs ３ばいそく Part2
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl_ukZP8n1A

SGT Movies (Super GANON Time)

Super GANON Brothers
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3538973
GANON festival
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3439181
leg Age: Train Your leg in Minutes a Day!
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3601609
Ganyo under the Cliff by the Sea
http://zoome.jp/dougaya/diary/6/
(ponyo English ver.)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=3vf0Kn7RPqU)

How?

Postscript：

Dio(Ganon) vs Lance(Marth)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm5044061

ns(Ganon) vs TOSHIO(T.link) Part1
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3858014

ns(Ganon) vs TOSHIO(T.link) Part2
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3857211

ns(Ganon) vs Lapislazuri Stern(Peach)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3437632

ns(Ganon) vs レっTE(Yoshi)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3538416

Home-Run Contest
Ganondolf (1P 2P)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSTp5Yva9o&feature=related

New World Co-op Records
Player : Sin (Ike), OWLET (Ice Climbers)　34870.0ｆｔ
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyy35k-5gK0

Sin's HRC Videos
http://jp.youtube.com/profile?user=Sin2324

Ganon's Item course
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4436829

Ganon of omniscience omnipotence　lol
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4924637

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SaltyKracka · Nov 3, 2008

Lulzwut?

10Murderpunches

rihuganon · Nov 3, 2008

Thanx,Ic.

How about Videos?

hyperstation · Nov 3, 2008

I like those japanandorf videos a lot. Niku and ３ばいそく got mad swagger.

Phazon Warrior · Nov 3, 2008

Super Ganon Time is hilarious. Didn't know about that sliding box trick.

A2ZOMG · Nov 3, 2008

**** these guys are too good.

They actually know how to U-air on stage and be really hard to shieldgrab.

So beastly.

And I can't stop ROFLing from Super Ganon Brothers. Most epic **** ever.

hyperstation · Nov 3, 2008

Super Ganon Brothers is INTENSE

Big O · Nov 3, 2008

Super Ganon Bros. Too good. Wow @ Leg Age vid group dairs lol. These guys make crazy vids.

rihuganon · Nov 4, 2008

New videos were added.
Please see.

I am very glad to be pleased with you.
Thanks!!

Zeborg · Nov 4, 2008

Awesome. Thanks for the videos!

-Mars- · Nov 4, 2008

Nice vids these guys are excellent. By any chance do you have a link to the Japanese tier list rihuganon?

sleepy_head83 · Nov 4, 2008

Man that ponyo song is addicting! Anyways, amazing collection of ganon videos.

rihuganon · Nov 4, 2008

marsulas said:
do you have a link to the Japanese tier list rihuganon?

Because I am Japandolf.

This is my video. (汎用 is me. lol.not strong)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8R8S_Ny9g

-Mars- · Nov 4, 2008

Lol, what does that have to do with the tier list?

:034: · Nov 4, 2008

He's asking if there is a list of the best characters in Japan.

Also, I really like these video's. Post more when you have time.

rihuganon · Nov 4, 2008

OK,It understood.

ah...
Is it not only a video of Ganondorof?

Example:

RAIN(Falco) vs BombSoldier(Meta)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3753558
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3753682
カイト(Wario) vs BombSoldier(R.O.B)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4115067

Swoops · Nov 4, 2008

No, like this Tier List

Only for Japan

Tenki · Nov 4, 2008

Super Ganon brothers
wwwwwwwwwwwww

rihuganon · Nov 4, 2008

Swoops said:
No, like this Tier List

Only for Japan

OK,OKOK
I misunderstand and am shameful.
(We call it "Character Ranking". )

@FD

S:MetaKnight,Snake,Falco
A:R.O.B,Diddy,Marth,Pit,Fox
B:Mr. Game & Watch,Wolf,Toon Link
C:Ice Climbers,Olimar,Sheik,Zero Suit Samus,Pikachu,Lucario
D:Kirby,King Dedede,Mario,Lucas,Wario,Charizard
E:Zelda,Ike,Donkey Kong,Ness,Link,Luigi,Yoshi,Pokemon Trainer,Squirtle,Ivysaur
F:Sonic,Bowser,Samus,Captain Falcon,Jigglypuff,Peach
G:Ganondolf(GOD RANK)

Is it OK?

:034: · Nov 4, 2008

Yes, that is exactly what we wanted. It's not very different from ours, except that Fox is a lot higher on the Japanese ranking, and King Dedede is a lot lower (Fox is something like C rank, and King Dedede would be A Rank).

rihuganon · Nov 4, 2008

There is movement recognized that Dedede is B rank recently.
However, it never becomes A rank.

Please look at this video about Fox's rank.
Fox is found the possibility.

リラ(Fox) vs なみ(MetaKnight)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm5107632
リラ(Fox) vs ゆき(Pit,Kirby)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4997529
リラ(Fox) vs Muscle(Wario)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4996782

SaltyKracka · Nov 4, 2008

rihuganon said:
There is movement recognized that Dedede is B rank recently.
However, it never becomes A rank.

Please look at this video about Fox's rank.
Fox is found the possibility.

??(Fox) vs ??(MetaKnight)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm5107632
??(Fox) vs ??(Pit,Kirby)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4997529
??(Fox) vs Muscle(Wario)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4996782

And the main reason that you don't have DDD very high is likely because chaingrabbing, projectile spam, and extreme defensiveness are not emphasized in high levels of Japanese play.

Though I can't see why you have Diddy, Pit, and Fox all higher than Game and Watch, of all people. He's dreadfully overpowered.

Shadow Nataku · Nov 4, 2008

SaltyKracka said:
And the main reason that you don't have DDD very high is likely because chaingrabbing, projectile spam, and extreme defensiveness are not emphasized in high levels of Japanese play.

I somewhat question that idea since I've seen plenty of that play with JP DDD's in other video's I've watched. But it just simply seems that not many DDD's rank as high overall compared to the other characters. Though aggressive play is something I notice as being more prominent and different from us in the JP Brawl fights.

:034: · Nov 4, 2008

It seems to me that a lot of Japanese players prefer to play offensively and use their character's speed. A lot of American players play much more defensively.

Basically, they play under "Hit them more than they hit you" and Americans play under "Don't get hit".

Europeans play under both, because we are just that good. (:

Blad01 · Nov 4, 2008

Flying Dutchman said:
Europeans play under both, because we are just that good. (:

Ahah, actually this is true

rihuganon · Nov 4, 2008

Answers to some questions.

Reason why DDD is B
In a word,DDD is not advantageous for the other party of S rank and A rank.
(Though it is very advantageous for the other party of the character of a low rank.)
However, it is admitted that it is strong.

Reason why Game and Watch is B
･･･It is a mystery. I like GW too.
As for the weak point of GW, only "too light" and "weak to the fencer" are said.
It is often considered A rank.

Japanese Brawl fights are offensive?
It is not so never."Defensive one is strong" is common sense also in Japan.
However, we often decrease choices of the behavior of the other party by the containing attack.

@

Flying Dutchman said:
Europeans play under both, because we are just that good. (:

HAHAHA,European Jokes are excellent.
And, I want to vs everybody if possible.
However, I heard Wi-Fi can't connect with Japan.

SaltyKracka · Nov 4, 2008

rihuganon said:
Answers to some questions.

Reason why DDD is B
In a word,DDD is not advantageous for the other party of S rank and A rank.
(Though it is very advantageous for the other party of the character of a low rank.)
However, it is admitted that it is strong.

Reason why Game and Watch is B
･･･It is a mystery. I like GW too.
As for the weak point of GW, only "too light" and "weak to the fencer" are said.
It is often considered A rank.

Japanese Brawl fights are offensive?
It is not so never."Defensive one is strong" is common sense also in Japan.
However, we often decrease choices of the behavior of the other party by the containing attack.

@

HAHAHA,European Jokes are excellent.
And, I want to vs everybody if possible.
However, I heard Wi-Fi can't connect with Japan.

Compared to American fights, Japanese fights are very fast and offensive. However, it does not seem as if the Japanese Ganondorfs have discovered the tipman, am I correct?

rihuganon · Nov 5, 2008

SaltyKracka said:
Compared to American fights, Japanese fights are very fast and offensive. However, it does not seem as if the Japanese Ganondorfs have discovered the tipman, am I correct?

I'm sorry please teach the meaning of those words.
It has not understood.
"tipman"
"Epic"
"10 murder~"

SaltyKracka · Nov 5, 2008

The tipman is when you hit with the last few frames of Ganon's up aerial. This has little knockback and tends to send the opponent out and down if used correctly. It is most often utilitzed as a sort of spike.

Now that I come to think of it, have Japanese Ganondorfs learned how to use the guaranteed combos out of the Flame choke?

"Epic" is used as a compliment. It may be thought of as "awesome", but more so.

The usage of 10 (insert words here) is to get around a minimum character limit for posts.

Also, I suggest you read Swoops' guide to Ganondorf, as it is currently the most comprehensive and detailed one anywhere.

rihuganon · Nov 5, 2008

Thank you for the explanation. I understood.
Swoops' guide is very nice.But we know the guaranteed combos.

Tipman is used to edgeguard mainly.

SaltyKracka · Nov 5, 2008

So you don't use tipman much, eh? Meh, it's hard to get good at it, I admit (I don't do it at all, myself, but then, I'm not that good of a Ganon), but the results speak for themselves.

rihuganon · Nov 5, 2008

Thank you for advice.
We often use Vulture Kick,but Tipman was used only for edgeguard.

SaltyKracka · Nov 5, 2008

Well, that's what it's supposed to be used for, so more power to you all. Have you viewed the thread on Ganon's 60% combo on heavies yet?

rihuganon · Nov 5, 2008

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=201368
I discovered the thread.

Even if such a combo is discovered, it is not post to thread so much in Japan.
It is a current state that only a strong person knows.

Charoo · Nov 5, 2008

you should share your knowledge with the brawl tactical discussion about japan's metagame

also, do u have any japanese falcon videos? I want to see their style

SaltyKracka · Nov 5, 2008

Charoo said:
you should share your knowledge with the brawl tactical discussion about japan's metagame

also, do u have any japanese falcon videos? I want to see their style

As an addendum, I'd like to see how Japanese Ikes play.

-Mars- · Nov 5, 2008

Thank you, you've been very helpful. I don't think we can even connect with Japan on WIFI which is sad, I would have enjoyed learning from Japanese players. I personally feel that Fox should be higher on our list, but it seems no one in America plays him. I was surprised at how low you place Wario and Peach, they are both so good in this game.

SaltyKracka · Nov 5, 2008

marsulas said:
Thank you, you've been very helpful. I don't think we can even connect with Japan on WIFI which is sad, I would have enjoyed learning from Japanese players. I personally feel that Fox should be higher on our list, but it seems no one in America plays him. I was surprised at how low you place Wario and Peach, they are both so good in this game.

Tbqh, the Japanese tier list is very different from the American one. For one thing, they have both Pit and Diddy up in top. And that's just wrong.

-Mars- · Nov 5, 2008

SaltyKracka said:
Tbqh, the Japanese tier list is very different from the American one. For one thing, they have both Pit and Diddy up in top. And that's just wrong.

eh, I could see Diddy. I watched some Japanese vids that Ankoku had a while back with one of the top Diddys against one of their top MK's. He's probably ranked that high because of how well he does against MK.

also Rihu, I hope you don't mind but i'm going to put these Fox vids in the Fox forum.

rihuganon · Nov 5, 2008

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