How about Japan Ganondolf Videos?

deadpoe7 · Nov 5, 2008

This. Is. Awesome.

I am thoroughly enjoying seeing the different Japanese styles for playing brawl.

GotenOnNimbus · Nov 5, 2008

O_O Ganon Superjump. How do you do it, especially out of Wizard Kick? Can it be done offstage for recovery?

And thanks for posting these. This is great.

Charoo · Nov 5, 2008

rihuganon said:
The discussion about tier list often gets rough also in Japan.

Falcon's vids & Ike's vids･･･OK,please wait a minute. I will look for.

Wario･･･Though the movement of Wario is very interesting,But Wario is too weak to detach grab(?).
Sonic vs Wario
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4984779
Link vs Wario
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3950149
Fox vs Wario
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4123055
Olimar vs Wario
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4800582

Peach･･･There are still a lot of characters with bad compatibility though it takes the shape
if it certainly masters it.
Peach Ditto
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm5152948

Diddy･･･That' light and banana is cheat item!!
Snake vs Diddy part1
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4627933
Snake vs Diddy part2
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4627569
Falco vs Diddy part1
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4107131
Falco vs Diddy part2
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4107197
MK vs Diddy
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4684308

fox's vids･･･It is glad for me.

Pit･･･His arrow hides potential.
GW vs Pit
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3679659
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3679837
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3679958
Tornado vs Pit
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3925587
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3926300
Falco vs Pit
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm2848022

By the way, do you know the flight of Ganon?
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4289741

@
Falcon vs Snake
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4482748
Falcon vs DDD
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4490586
(thanx for ３びゃああああああああああいそく)

thank you very much

hyperstation · Nov 5, 2008

HOLY S***!
@

http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm4289741

What the heck is that?! Someone please explain this flying ganon!

rihuganon · Nov 6, 2008

Ganon superjamp can't be done offstage for recovery.
It should land.

The method is difficult to translate･･･.

It is necessary to do Air-Dodge beforehand.
Input wizfoot and jump at the same time in 1F of landing.

First of all, please try at SmashVille.
Do Air-Dodge from platform simultaneously with ShortHop.
And, jump&wizfoot at the end.
Let's　ｔｒｙ!

SaltyKracka · Nov 6, 2008

Ho****! We're nice and we get a metagame advancement. Sweet!

Unless this only works with the JA version though. That'd be lame.

Phazon Warrior · Nov 6, 2008

Anyone successfully tried flying Ganondorf yet?

How do people find these things?

M15t3R E · Nov 6, 2008

I call h4x on that Ganon superjump vid.
I tried it and it's impossible.

Or maybe, as SaltyKracka feared, Sakurai did put it into the JP version only.
F*** you Sakurai...

Swoops · Nov 6, 2008

HOOOOOOLLLLLLLYYYYYY SHHHH*****TTTT! I just did the super jump...ONCE!

I will continue to try, but I just got it off of land cancel wizkick.

*Oh...and I dittoed with Kosk...he is indeed broken.

M15t3R E · Nov 6, 2008

How do you cancel the wizard's foot?!?!?!?!?!
I thought that is impossible.

Swoops make a replay of you doing it.

EDIT: Lol, nvm all that. It's easy.

Swoops · Nov 6, 2008

It's strict as hell timing but it's possible. If anything this is slightly usable. It's definitely more usable than quake though.

I just rolled all the way back so my back was furthest off the ledge so I could do land wizkick cancelm then hit jump and down b at the exact same time when my feet got close to hitting the ground...very hard timing, but I did it a few more times

EDIT: Check it, Supa Hopz

Amazing Ampharos · Nov 6, 2008

You guys should check if it works for Captain Falcon as well.

rihuganon · Nov 6, 2008

hyperstation · Nov 6, 2008

This makes sense. There's some sort of momentum glitch with a "cancelled" (completely the wrong term here) down B. There's also a glitch for ganon where if you downB on a spring with correct timing, you'll fly incredibly high.

I think this might be the 3astard child of the ISJR glitch - infinite second jump recovery. That's why you have to airdodge with correct timing before you can do this tech. For those who don't know, ISJR is when you finish your aerial right before you touch ground and in fact buffer a jump which comes out before you land. You can keep bouncing with your second jump inches above the ground and it's pretty freaking cool. The moves that work for ganon with this are: Dair, Bair, and Uair. Nothing else. This doesn't explain how these dudes are super jumping out of a wiz kick though. lol.

Go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbLWN9NM-8

What's the best way to input this on the gamecube controller? Since you have to input down+B as well as jump at the same time, all the options I can think of are pretty awkward except maybe setting L trigger to the B button (LOL).

I'm going to play with this today when I'm off work. This is one of those techs that the timing is really crazy, but if it can be done relatively consistently, you've got an ace in the hole. Samus's bomb-induced super wavedash comes to mind here in that its timing was crazy, but really high tier samus players like Wes were able to do it with enough consistency that it wasn't a gimmick.

Go, go meta-game enhancement!

GO TO WORK, PEOPLE!

tha_carter · Nov 6, 2008

Ganon of omniscience omnipotence
Ganon of omniscience omnipotence
Ganon of omniscience omnipotence
Ganon of omniscience omnipotence
Ganon of omniscience omnipotence

:laugh:

M15t3R E · Nov 6, 2008

New thread is up to unlock the secret of Ganon's super jump!
Check it out! http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203754

Hixxy · Nov 6, 2008

This is an awesome thread. Many thanks to rihuganon for sharing Japanese smash with us.

emme · Nov 6, 2008

Hi rihuganon, thanks a lot!
I'm interested on the japanese nick of smasher like Souther, Rain and Shu for search in nicovideo, or also some great japanese smasher :o

Morrigan · Nov 6, 2008

rihuganon said:
Answers to some questions.

Reason why DDD is B
In a word,DDD is not advantageous for the other party of S rank and A rank.
(Though it is very advantageous for the other party of the character of a low rank.)
However, it is admitted that it is strong.

Reason why Game and Watch is B
･･･It is a mystery. I like GW too.
As for the weak point of GW, only "too light" and "weak to the fencer" are said.
It is often considered A rank.

First of all I want to thank you for sharing this info with us

But may I ask you why Japan does not use Peach AT ALL in tournaments? I mean..."F rank", why do you hate her, Japan, why!? D:

She is doing quite well on this side of the world, what's going on over there?

(Ganons don't beat me plz kbye)

GeneralWoodman · Nov 6, 2008

jiggly vids?

Zeborg · Nov 6, 2008

Thanks rihuganon for sharing this material!

SaltyKracka · Nov 6, 2008

Indeed. Much thanks for all of the stuff you've posted here Rihu.

-Mars- · Nov 6, 2008

Rihu singlehandedly improved Ganons metagame in a few days lol.

M15t3R E · Nov 6, 2008

marsulas said:
Rihu singlehandedly improved Ganons metagame in a few days lol.

And he might not even realize it.

Rihu, if you're still around visit my thread that I created. I credited you with the reason we were able to find out about the super jump.

Kinzer · Nov 7, 2008

Awesome vids Rihu, I look forward to looking out for whatever you come up with next!

Darky-Sama · Nov 11, 2008

Has anyone tested if this works with Captain Falcon as well?

Tenki · Nov 11, 2008

Darky-Sama said:
Has anyone tested if this works with Captain Falcon as well?

The jump?
Yes, check this thread.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203881

A2ZOMG · Nov 12, 2008

rihuganon said:
And, I want to vs everybody if possible.
However, I heard Wi-Fi can't connect with Japan.

Why don't you put your code in your profile and let's see if you can play other people? You can go to User CP -> Edit Your Details -> Brawl Friend Code

At the very least, we do know Wifi in USA can connect with Europe. I am from the USA, and Flying Dutchman is from Europe, and we've played together.

I heard one of my friends (also in USA) was able to play a guy from Japan.

Btw, thanks for showing us the Ganon SUPER jump. I love doing haxjumps for fun. I even have a replay of me doing a "combo" on Swoops with the Ganon haxjump. It's epic, and I will upload it on youtube. =)

SaltyKracka · Nov 12, 2008

A2ZOMG said:
Why don't you put your code in your profile and let's see if you can play other people? You can go to User CP -> Edit Your Details -> Brawl Friend Code

At the very least, we do know Wifi in USA can connect with Europe. I am from the USA, and Flying Dutchman is from Europe, and we've played together.

I heard one of my friends (also in USA) was able to play a guy from Japan.

Btw, thanks for showing us the Ganon SUPER jump. I love doing haxjumps for fun. I even have a replay of me doing a "combo" on Swoops with the Ganon haxjump. It's epic, and I will upload it on youtube. =)

Hell, if anything, you and I should have less lag with Rihu than others on this board. After all, we are in CA.

Darky-Sama · Nov 12, 2008

Tenki said:
The jump?
Yes, check this thread.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203881

Ah yes, thank you.

Morrigan · Nov 12, 2008

I think he's gone >_>

Ray_Kalm · Jan 16, 2009

If you watched carefully, these Japan Ganons played better than anyone of us here.

How old is this thread? <_<

Finns7 · Jan 16, 2009

And the matches where online, Imagine offline. Everyday we should try to improve are game until we are a inpenetrable force.

PK-ow! · Jan 16, 2009

rihuganon said:
ns(Ganon) vs Lapislazuri Stern(Peach)
http://nicozon.blog64.fc2.com/?video_id=sm3437632

Look, guys, check out the Peach vid, 3:57 - 4:04.

The Ganon skips the Recover Special landing lag.

Because he didn't sweetspot the ledge. He used the ignore autosnap input (hold down) to wait out the recovery, then grabbed it like normal. In the position he was in, reacting to Peach's lag from Dsmash, it was the right move (turned out to be, anyway).
It's not always correct, but it's an option to keep in mind. RCO doesn't have to always annoy us. We have a tradeoff. We have a choice.

Forgive me if this had already been discussed / everyone is already doing this, etc. etc.

Finns7 · Jan 16, 2009

I didnt know, there is change, choice, choice, change OBama...o wait nvm

Zerxion · Jan 16, 2009

PK-ow! said:
Look, guys, check out the Peach vid, 3:57 - 4:04.

The Ganon skips the Recover Special landing lag.

Because he didn't sweetspot the ledge. He used the ignore autosnap input (hold down) to wait out the recovery, then grabbed it like normal. In the position he was in, reacting to Peach's lag from Dsmash, it was the right move (turned out to be, anyway).
It's not always correct, but it's an option to keep in mind. RCO doesn't have to always annoy us. We have a tradeoff. We have a choice.

Forgive me if this had already been discussed / everyone is already doing this, etc. etc.

Not quite. you still get the shorthop RCO lag if you ledge hop directly to the platform on BF. (and some other stages) It is not as apparent or as long, but it's still there.

Swoops · Jan 17, 2009

PK-ow! said:
Look, guys, check out the Peach vid, 3:57 - 4:04.

The Ganon skips the Recover Special landing lag.

Because he didn't sweetspot the ledge. He used the ignore autosnap input (hold down) to wait out the recovery, then grabbed it like normal. In the position he was in, reacting to Peach's lag from Dsmash, it was the right move (turned out to be, anyway).
It's not always correct, but it's an option to keep in mind. RCO doesn't have to always annoy us. We have a tradeoff. We have a choice.

Forgive me if this had already been discussed / everyone is already doing this, etc. etc.

You get the rco lag no matter how you grab the ledge with up b or side b.

lain · Jan 22, 2009

I've never laughed so hard watching super ganon bros. the spring was the best part.

camzaman · Jan 22, 2009

Rihuganon, thank you very much. It's fun to share knowledge between Japan and the USA on Smash Bros. Do you have any links to Japanese Ness videos?

hyperstation · Feb 2, 2009

Rihuganon,

Any chance you could update this thread with a handful of new, tournament level Ganons? These videos are invaluable, and it would be very much appreciated if you added some newer ones for us. Thanks a lot.

<3 DAD

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