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How do you teach someone to play Brawl?

JhMS

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Tell them to pick Metaknight.


Nah just play with them and they will eventually learn.

Edit:The advice about picking Melee is good also.
 

Oathblivion

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This doesn't warrant it's own topic, so I'll ask here. The more pressing question in my camp is "how to teach someone that items are unfair pieces of crap." My friend, like, the only one who plays smash in this area, has the play to win mindset of a competetive player, but insists on items. I've tried beating him at his own game, but aside from one Zelda Light Arrow spam fest, I got nothing. Any suggestions?
 

Sosuke

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Whats with people saying Snake? Don't you mean MK?
 

JCav

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the best way to train a noob is to just play till they get better. it takes forever and you need to be patient but if ur bored, go for it
 

Sosuke

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We mean Snake. Snake eats everybody in brawl. Metaknight eats almost everyone but Snake. So pick Snake.
Isn't MK #1 now? And Snake is like MK's only weakness.
Snake has a few bad matchups.
Snake takes more skill to use anyway.
 

SinkingHigher

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I have a couple of things that may be useful.

Start your way up a CPU from level (whatever you're comfortable with) to level 9. This is ONLY to get used to your character's moves. How long smashes take, how spaced you should be to start up an attack safely, getting used to short-hopped attacks, how to set up and kill, etc...

Once you're comfortable with your character, run down to level 3 or so. 3 is a good number, but you can go lower if you want. Now, choose something you feel is a weakness. If you have someone to play against, play a relatively serious match, and just watch the replays. Analyse yourself. What moves do you never do? Why do you keep dying? What moves do you keep trying but don't connect with?

Practice these weaknesses against a CPU. If dodging and blocking is a problem, then play the entire match just trying to not to get hit. Don't even attack. Just don't get hit. Slowly incorporate some counters only if you know you won't get hit. Practice defense, offense, locks, spikes, setups, dodging, KOs, whatever it is you need practice with.

Once you've got the basics, practice learning tricks. Brawl is a glitch factory. Find the characters tricks and ATs in their forum and practice them.

Along the way, whenever you have the chance, play against a real person. Nothing beats the real deal. You may notice that moves that always work on CPUs (like spammed projectiles) won't work on humans. Adjust accordingly.

Next, watch some vids. TWatch whatever videos you want, by whoever you want, but just always be aware of what moves they could have/should have done, and when. You'll notice a good player is all about proper timing and spacing. You need to wait for the right opportunity for many moves, so find a way to make them happen, and strike when they do.

A good player, no matter which character, is always in control. There is an inate human tendancy to want to do a move, and keep trying to get that move to connect. If you're one of those people that do that, then STOP. There is nothing worse than predictability. Get used to other characters. CPUs semi-work here, but again, nothing beats the real deal. Watch them and consider what possibilities they have at every turn. Being one step ahead will keep you safe and able to punish in advance.

Know the character inside and out. What KO moves work at what %ages, how to use them properly, how to sweetspot, all that stuff. Not every character KOs the same way - i.e. Zelda tends to KO through spikes our U-smashes/U-airs, while Sheik's weaker attacks mean she has to KO to the sides of the stage. Basically, just get used to how your character works as an individual.

Next up, recoveries. Just as much as you need to KO, you need to know how to recover if you're playing someone good. Remember those tricks/glitches? Find out if they work as recoveries. If not, learn how to DI properly.
 

Xeze

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First thing is to learn the character's moves (speed, power, range etc.). Afterwards it is important to master recoveries. No matter how well you attack, if you don't know how to recover your opponent can just grab and throw you out and you're dead. After knowing this basics, proceed to the advanced moves.
 

rathy Aro

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Give them tidbit about their char that they didn't know and let them slowly incorporate them into the match. If they have a problem killing with MK tell them about Up B and if they say they have a problem getting Up B to hit, tell them about Uair to UpB. Something along those lines should start them off, but you can't formally teach them if they don't want to learn that way. I've tried many a times..... this method's a lot more sneaky. >=)
 

stoopdklutz

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Well my sister sucked at brawl, and I don't have many players near me, so I decided to turn her from a Kirby stone-spammer to a competent player.

First I helped her find her main( Wario)
Then I showed her a combo video( This is Farta)
Then I showed her his moveset, and what to use when
Then how to recover,
Then when to use shield
Then how to shorthop dair
Then told her general tidbits about Wario.
Now I play her six times a day, and she gets better everyday.


No Lie. And this kid is effin 9.
 

Gindler

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Tell them to not use Ness or Lucas, "noobs" never know how to steer that thing. and yeah, snake'll do, at beginner level he's easier to use than MK since snake you don't have to combo to win just Ftilt chuck some nades, then when they're at 100 Utilt ftw.
 

Greenstreet

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Show them the basic and what you find most important. Coz wen i teach some1 how to play i tell them the classic.
Dont get hit.
 

Zanoske

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Well my sister sucked at brawl, and I don't have many players near me, so I decided to turn her from a Kirby stone-spammer to a competent player.

First I helped her find her main( Wario)
Then I showed her a combo video( This is Farta)
Then I showed her his moveset, and what to use when
Then how to recover,
Then when to use shield
Then how to shorthop dair
Then told her general tidbits about Wario.
Now I play her six times a day, and she gets better everyday.


No Lie. And this kid is effin 9.
Your sister will be the fest female smasher when she grows up.

10femalesmashers
 

Vect0r

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Getting teached to play Brawl by someone else is different than learning it all alone, with your only source: the internet (and the game itself)

I learned it all by myself, without anybody playing together until i had some basic knowledge.

But seriously, the best way to teach others is to tell them how the game works of course, then battle eachother... a lot. And i mean A LOT. Eventually they'll pick it up.
 

stoopdklutz

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Yea, I learned myselfs, and most of my friends at school don't want to make that leap from casual to competitive, so yea... I had to teach some1 to be competent...
 

b_rizzy86

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Find the way that they are motivated, and then do that. For some, it may be being beaten like crazy, for others, it might be watching a crazy combo video or some good matches. Either way, they're gonna need that at first cuz it's probably gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
 
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