Ringedge
Smash Apprentice
I met another Samus in my local scene the other day, and I don't want to lose to him in the ditto
what should I be doing in the ditto to get the upper hand?
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Aerials that intersect too much with a shield are often punishable by up-b. Work on your movement and missile game. I think the neutral game is a lot about wavedash -> jab / tilt, missile cancels, and maybe some aerials used in conjunction with platforms.I just watched those
In dittoes it's even more important to act faster than your opponent as they've got the exact same move set with the same frames. The only difference is the player's reaction.
Practice your actions out of shield as I saw you miss many opportunities to punish. You were either too slow (standing in shield too long) or too fast (rolling).
Never approach with aerials when they're grounded.
Samus should always try to face the stage when recovering to give us the option to grapple recover.
You can dodge missiles with airdodge into grapple recovery when they are shooting low missiles close to the stage.
I think you know Samus can clank missiles with dash attack and immediately punish. (this is useful against reflected missiles too)
Other than that, there's nothing wrong with shielding missiles (or preferably powershield) if you act out of shield fast enough.
Hmm grabs not so much at all, side step the grabs = free dsmash, whoever nair's first usually loses, and its really not a constant battle of the three. When you have them off the ledge, you dont want to just use homing because a good samus can bomb off the homing missiles and make their recovery even better, I mean WD tilt and dask attacks arent fancy by any means but WD ftilt is good for neutral and knocking away missiles and dash attack for more of a mix up but should be rarely used bro.....Um, grabs and fairs/nairs and fsmash. It's just a constant battle of those three. Once you get them off the ledge, use homing. You can throw in some wd tilts or a a dash attack to be fancy, but those are unneeded.
Its not hard at all, the bombs and missiles share the same properties just have to time it right, dont have any vids of me in the ditto i believe where this situation occurred though
Do I have to still provide a video now that plup confirmed...?
the secondI'm assuming it's when the homer loses it's active frames right?
Or can you actually bomb off it without being hit by it
booo my word should be enoughNope! Plup's word is enough :-)
Conceptually should have been enough, but sure.Nope! Plup's word is enough :-)
.... exactly what I said bud.... i said you can bomb off missiles... instead of them trying it for themselves, they needed a video or plups endorsement... just go into the game and try it lolololol, or realize that I have posted enough **** to know what I am talking about and that me saying something works is just the same as plup saying something works, players need to get off the riding top players junk syndrome and just think for themselves about the gameConceptually should have been enough, but sure.
This is pretty much the ditto. Don't bother spacing or trying to bait out punishes. Just cook that charge shot and don't move. They will either run off on purpose or run into the charge shot.The key is having the power shot charged up, once you got that going, your opponent is toast. Dittos are pretty easy, unless you are facing someone like me
The key is having the power shot charged up, once you got that going, your opponent is toast. Dittos are pretty easy, unless you are facing someone like me
Hugely underestimating and oversimplifying the MU.... ok Valar id love to play you sometime, you can even have a charge shot to start off each gameThis is pretty much the ditto. Don't bother spacing or trying to bait out punishes. Just cook that charge shot and don't move. They will either run off on purpose or run into the charge shot.
We should play! But I don't think we live close enough to each other to play and my computer is too ****ty to use netplayHugely underestimating and oversimplifying the MU.... ok Valar id love to play you sometime, you can even have a charge shot to start off each game