i own at singles but

[finalmixed]

i suck when im battling more than one person
why?

 

[Razed]

Probably because you try and use the same tactics as you would 1v1 in a 1v1v1v1 match. That doesn't work.

 

[finalmixed]

thx for the help but do i need another tactic for any other kind of play

 

[old king coal]

^ what razed said. and yes you do need another tactic otherwise you will be owned. practice against 3 comps on a team against you - this will help you adjust to playing against more people at once.

 

[ndayday]

Maybe because you're so used to doing only 1 vs. 1. Different strageties apply to more than two people fights. Like you have to hide and run a lot more. =)

If you use a character like Ike then wait until you can catch two or more people in a group and then unleash a super strong attack, like Ike's Forward smash. Most characters Forward smash's are pretty decent kill moves.

(I learn from the cheap-o's on wifi!)

 

[finalmixed]

that works out for me because one of my mains is ddd

 

[SparkEd]

The trick to FFAs is to stay away from the main skirmish.

If you can lead a person (Preferably a characters that may be generally bad against your character, or at the least the one easiest to take out) and go all out on it, away from the other fight scene, if you can. If you're faced with multiple people, however, clear them out with a sweeping move or whatever; you don't need to kill them, let them kill themselves.

There's so many instances where I avoid most of the fight and end up winning because last person standing has 1 stock at 169% and I have Two stock at 12%. Cheap, yes, but it WORKS. :|

 

[Crystanium]

That's ironic. It's the opposite for me. Then again, lag interferes with my performance. Offline, I perform better.

In multi-man brawls, it's easier to win, since there are three other people playing as well. What this means is that other people can bring up a lot of damage against your opponents, and it makes it easier for you to defeat them. In this battle, your enemies are your friends. Sometimes I see one of my opponents with two lives left, and I only have one life, as does another opponent of mine. What I do is try to get the others to fight each other, so that when the person with two lives is at a good percent, I'll try to finish him or her off.

 

[SummerObsession]

Maybe because you shouldn't be taking on two people by yourself. If it's a 1v2 your basically screwed. If it's a FFA let everyone fight it out while you stay back and go in for the finishing blow. If it's a 2v2, aggressive style usually comes out on top even if your better than the people you play 1v1.

 

[cj.Shark]

anyone who says camp and wait for others to fight is just ********.
FFAS are for fun!. seriously. why would you sit on ur *** 3 and a half minutes into the game just to get to play for 15 seconds and be like Oh pwned ya guys!. There are no tourneys so i dont see the point is "proving your skill" as it is entirely different from a 1v1.
but then again what do i know? im the guy who always ends up 2nd because i spend the entire game falcon punching large groups of people.

 

[smash inc]

Yeah same for me, i kill everyone at 1 vs. 1 but when its 4 player. I don't do as well as i do on 1 vs. 1
I usually get 2nd.

 

[Tokerella]

If it's a FFA let everyone fight it out while you stay back and go in for the finishing blow.

no.

i hear ya man.. youre going to have to change your strats a bit for ffa.

my advice (some obvious things):
-try to avoid grabs, even if youre playing with people that dont know what theyre doing you can be easily punished. i main ddd as well, but i only sneak a [quick grab + bthrow] in if the 3rd or 4th guys are far enough away.
-stay to the ledges/sides to avoid getting caught in multiple crossfire/atks
-look for opportunities, ex: if there are 3 players and the 2nd guy is recovering, dont go for a ledgeguard right away. first give the 3rd guy some knockback dmg and while hes recovering go for the ledgeguard. or if you cant get the ledgeguard in, youve still dmgd the 3rd guy without having to worry about the 2nd guy (so now youve got a 1v1 til the 2nd guy recovers). Or better yet let the 3rd guy attempt the ledgeguard and punish them both. this sort of goes along with the "keep losing try this" thread, your eyes should constantly be glancing back and forth at the other 2 or 3 guys.
-just like 1v1, make sure youre spacing yourself, and avoid lag atks
-remember your projectiles (if you got em)
-go after players with the highest %, why work the 2nd guy up yourself when a quick bair will take care of the 3rd guy? one stock closer to a 1v1

hope this helps a bit,
tok

 

[Crow!]

Winning a free for all is largely a mater of diplomacy. If you act as though you want to take on everyone, everyone will be happy to make the game a 3v1 for a bit, since they're not going to be the 1. If you start being all campy, some play groups will ignore you in each person's own best interest, while others will gang up on you. When the game turns into two 1v1 games on opposite sides of the map, different groups have different standards for how you trade partners or switch to an unorganized free for all. Trying to make a switch in a way that not everyone agrees to can put you on the bad side of a 2v1 (while the last person charges up or starts spamming or just camps). Some groups follow a "gang up on the person who's in the lead" policy, while others tend to ignore such things.

So, in general, you have to learn how the people you play with play, and either exploit, adapt, or, in most cases, follow suit. And remember, as long as you win 25+% of the time, you're doing well. Some other, more specific notes:

Look for opportunities to make use of your opponents. If you grab someone, consider using him as a human shield for that projectile coming at you. Use your Kirby style AAA combo to paralyze someone long enough for someone else to smash him (just be careful you don't get hit instead!)

Speaking of grabs, learn which throws are safe. Some throws can damage other people in the area, and others come out fast enough to be safe. Bowser, for example, has a hard time in free for all partly because his throws (even side B) take too long to get going, so a third party can come in and hit both of you in the delay.

If person A is experiencing lag for some reason (shield broken, missed up-B as an attack, Jiggly's rest), and person B in a good position to punish, it's usually best to let person B punish before rushing into the area. Why make a risky attempt to attack someone when person B can do it for you?

Likewise, if someone is about to edgeguard/gimp someone else, you have an important decision to make: do you sit there and let the recovering person die, or do you interrupt and score a hit on the edgeguarder? Objectively speaking, the first option is usually better, but consider diplomacy. If the recovering person is about to be eliminated and you aren't sure you can beat the guarder given current damage/stock counts, you can often make a temporary ally by interrupting.

EDIT: I forgot something very important: Beware the desire for revenge! Chasing after someone because they did something to you will often lead you into a 2v1 or worse as people try to continue the normal game flow but periodically stop to deal with you. Trying to get revenge first on person A and then on person B in the same game is a sure way to fail.

 

[IR.O.B.edC.Falcon]

Don't taunt after you kill.
And if your playing as DDD, downsmash.
Imo, FFA's are stupid and whenever i play them i just pick captain falcon and spam knees.
anyways, try to use moves with little lag or moves with large hitboxes.

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

Pick Ganondorf. When you see 3 people fighting each other in a big group, utilt or Ganon punch the whole group.

 

[IR.O.B.edC.Falcon]

Pick Ganondorf. When you see 3 people fighting each other in a big group, utilt or Ganon punch the whole group.

Had this happen once. i was gettin chaingrabbed by a DDD, some random was spamming thunder, and a massive purple flaming hand of death came a ***** slapped us all =(

 

[AlAxe]

In four person free for all the best strategy is to be a b****. Just don't play too aggressive and whenever you have the opportunity to take a cheap shot take it. You can't just go into a free for all expecting to just beast everyone. You need a lot more patience.

 

[Da Cookstar]

Have fun with your friends, I say. It is less about winning and more about spamming your sweetest attacks and throwing items around.

 

[TerenceLau]

whoever camps the best can win ffa. space and do cheap shots at all times! wait until there's only 1 other person then play it like a 1v1.

 

[mariofanpm12]

i stay away from the action and only attck when necessary. Sheilding doesn't always work when you have mutiple foes on your tail. just hang out while everyone fights.

One I played a 99 stock match with my friends and the last guy standing had 3 lives and I had 17... pwned!