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Because Gen 1 is the first one...?Why? Gen 1 hasn't aged that well at all, especially when compared to later gens
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Because Gen 1 is the first one...?Why? Gen 1 hasn't aged that well at all, especially when compared to later gens
Finally, someone who doesn't think 11 or more DLC characters is too farfetched.Cut characters left are:
-Wolf
-Pichu
-Young Link
-Snake
-Ice Climbers
-Squirtle
-Ivysaur
I feel like Sakurai is trying to bring back all cut characters if possible. Ice climbers has the limitations with the 3ds and snake is going through some problems with Konami and Metal Hear sadly...
If say everyone cut were to get in down the road we'd have this for the Pokemon roster
-Pikachu
-Charizard
-Lucario
-Greninja
-Jigglypuff
-Mewtwo
-Pichu
-Squirtle
-Ivysaur
9 Pokemon characters. Is this a lot? Yes but SAKURAI DOESNT care if a series Is overrepped(Fire Emblem has 5 reps).
I can easily see Ivysaur making a return alongside Squirtle as solo fighters.
I agree. Even if the character is not unique, and I think they will change that if Young Link and Pichu get in, you still have that connection with that character. Even if you haven't played Melee, you want to see what these characters are like, because only Dark Pit and arguably Lucina play the same way as their counterparts.Everyone would be awesome, because you shared good memories with everyone.
Ivysaur was my favorite Pokemon from Brawl, we need him back! :D
Key word being Venusaur, as we don't know if male Ivysaur loose that seed when they evolve.Ivysaur in Smash is actually female. She has the seed in her bulb like female Venusaur's do.
Here is what I think:Back on topic. I feel like every cut character does have a shot at returning.
Pichu can be buffed. Play like a Pikchu on crack by being faster and stronger at the cost of being the lightest fighter in Smash and damages herself when attacking. Ultimate glass canon.
Squirtle and Ivysaur would get new down b's and be fitted into Smash 4's engine.
Yo, here we are. Sadly, we are a pretty small group here...So Here's the Ivysaur support thread!
I was looking all over for it!
Imagine 4 people online playing as Pokemon Trainer all using their at once.It's very likely that Squirtle and Ivysaur were worked on on the development of the game, but since they found out that "transformations" wouldn't work due to the 3DS, they decided to just bring Charizard back.
And I Really don't get why we're so small!Yo, here we are. Sadly, we are a pretty small group here...
...I'd rather have Sceptile.
Yes a fully evolved Pokemon would be much more feasible.About Ivysaur, I do not see it happening, but I wouldn't mind it. Although, a fully evolved Pokémon would be more feasible.
Agreed. If Roy and Lucas didn't step on Ryu being developed, I doubt Ivysaur and Squirtle could step on anyone elseThis is only in effect when the demand for DLC lowers considerably. At the moment Ivysaur doesn't need to step on anyone to get to the top.
Charizard was part of Pokemon Trainer. I can not agree with that.I think it's more due to the fact that Squirtle and Ivysaur weren't that much noticed on Brawl's roster, because they were part of the Pokemon Trainer. And the Pokemon Trainer wasn't really popular too.
I Can agree with this!I think more people should come to all the veterans threads. Snake, Wolf and Ice Climbers have a big fanbase, but Young Link, Pichu, Squirtle and Ivysaur need more help!
Well it's because:And I Really don't get why we're so small!
I guess it's because Squirtle and Ivysaur fans aren't as salty and vocal as other fans? Maybe we're just patient?
Maybe because Pokemon Trainer isn't often used in tournaments?
Whatever the reason, this thread deserves a signal boost!
Yeah. I think the veterans should stick together.Snake, Wolf and Ice Climbers have a big fanbase, but Young Link, Pichu, Squirtle and Ivysaur need more help!
I can fix it! Combee use Signal Beam! (They probably can't learn that move but whatever.)Whatever the reason, this thread deserves a signal boost!
So do we just paste this all over other support threads?Wolf
The leader of the rival team: Star Wolf is looking more likely every day! But every supporter counts. :3 http://smashboards.com/threads/cant-let-you-cut-me-sakurai-wolf-for-dlc.324209/page-128
Ice Climbers
These two kids had some trouble working on the 3Ds version, but with the proper adjustments, I believe that SoPo won't be the only way they can rejoin the fight. Let's support a fellow veteran in their darkest hour!
http://smashboards.com/threads/brea...ion-thread-under-new-ownership.324176/page-71
Squirtle
This Pokémon was most likely worked on before, and maybe even after Charizard's reveal. Popularity was the only thing keeping him out then, and it's the only thing keeping him out now. He needs your support now more than ever! http://smashboards.com/threads/squi...-squirtle-in-the-fighter-ballot.380462/page-2
Ivysaur
Ivysaur was cut along side Squirtle because Charizard was more popular. Ivysaur is going to need your help so he can join Squirtle and Charizard back into the fray with a shiny new Down Special!
http://smashboards.com/threads/ivys...-the-smash-ballot.386368/page-6#post-19460373
Snake
Most people think Snake can't get in because he is owned by a third party company that isn't doing well, and that de wouldn't fit the cartooney style of Super Smash Bros. for the 3Ds/Wii U. It's time to show them how wrong they are, and with enough support, anything can happen!
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-solid-snake-for-smash-dlc-thread-new-revamped-op.324205/page-174
Young Link
Young Link was cut back in Brawl, supposedly replaced by Toon Link. It's time to show everyone how different Young Link can be from Toon Link. The dawn of the third day is upon us. This is Young Link's last chance!
http://smashboards.com/threads/dawn...hope-for-moveset-changes-rises.324215/page-12
Pichu
This poor Pokémon has been the center of hate for years. Not only was he a Pikachu clone, but he hurt himself when using an electric attack. But now that Sakurai has shown us that he is willing to put work into the clone veterans, Pichu has a chance to become something better, and more unique. All he needs is the support!
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-cute-baby-pokémon-the-melee-underdog-pichu-for-dlc-discussion-under-new-ownership-vote-now.324198/page-14
Now is our time! Let's get our veterans Back!
Done.I've put it on the Pichu and Young Link threads. I wasn't sure about the rest because they either have no active members (Squirtle) or may get mad at me for posting a "vote for this character" on another character's thread. You're welcome to put it on the other veteran's threads though.
I've put it on the Pichu and Young Link threads. I wasn't sure about the rest because they either have no active members (Squirtle) or may get mad at me for posting a "vote for this character" on another character's thread. You're welcome to put it on the other veteran's threads though.So do we just paste this all over other support threads?
Especially on the veterans that made it back threads?
The great thing about DLC characters is you can make the argument that they're just extra anyway, so who cares how many there are from each series, you know? If all 9 of the Pokemon appeared in this game, all I can say is...how awesome would that be?!? Before Roy came back I never would have thought it would happen, and most people would have said he didn't deserve to come back. But now that he's in the game, it feels great. GREAT. I've really been enjoying playing as him and who effing cares that it's another Fire Emblem rep or another Marth clone? He's a fun character and a Smash veteran. Bring them all back, I say!!Cut characters left are:
-Wolf
-Pichu
-Young Link
-Snake
-Ice Climbers
-Squirtle
-Ivysaur
I feel like Sakurai is trying to bring back all cut characters if possible. Ice climbers has the limitations with the 3ds and snake is going through some problems with Konami and Metal Hear sadly...
If say everyone cut were to get in down the road we'd have this for the Pokemon roster
-Pikachu
-Charizard
-Lucario
-Greninja
-Jigglypuff
-Mewtwo
-Pichu
-Squirtle
-Ivysaur
9 Pokemon characters. Is this a lot? Yes but SAKURAI DOESNT care if a series Is overrepped(Fire Emblem has 5 reps).
I can easily see Ivysaur making a return alongside Squirtle as solo fighters.
Please add me to the supporters list.IVYSAUR
^Brawl Artwork From Brawl 2008
UPDATE!! : VOTE FOR IVYSAUR NOW IN THE SMASH BROS FIGHTER BALLOT!!
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Ivysaur Is A Veteran Of Super Smash Bros Brawl who have a ton of fans who havent been included in the newest edition of Super Smash Brothers.
^By @Codex9
FREQUENTS OBJETIONS
Too many Pokemon characters!!!!
*points for the mario series (7 Chars)
Ivy Is A Trophy!
*And Mewtwo?
Why is ivysaur deserving? He isn't popular
*Besides, Ivysaur would be the same as a starter grass type, since we already have Charizard (Fire) and Greninja (Water). Ivysaur would be the grass type one.
MOVESET FROM BRAWL
^Thanks SSBWiki
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Any Idea?
Leave your thoughts in the comment section!
A few ideas were taken from this:
http://smashboards.com/threads/squirtle-drowns-the-competition.380462/
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"Middle evolution...has no representation"Please add me to the supporters list.
Here is my ballot vote. I had more to say but I condensed the best stuff I could into 500 characters.
My b, I thought of Pikachu minutes after my vote and felt bad about it. They are still basics in the TCG and picked up those evolutions in gen 2 as baby Pokemon that require certain items to even breed, so I still think Ivysaur is pretty solid representation for the middle ground, especially since she'd appeal to a lot of gen 1 fans who experienced Pika/Puff as basics."Middle evolution...has no representation"
that's not true unfortunately, also the Ivysaur was a "she"
Honestly I thought Ivysaur was the most fun out of the 3, put me on the supporters list!
He is wrong about the Ice Climber's chances, but everything else is good.New article from me:
https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/why-every-veteran-could-return-as-dlc/
It pertains to the cut veterans.
Ivysaur can be whatever gender you want it to be. Apparently in Japan, the its voice is feminine, but that doesn't hold up in English."Middle evolution...has no representation"
that's not true unfortunately, also the Ivysaur was a "she"
Honestly I thought Ivysaur was the most fun out of the 3, put me on the supporters list!
No Sakurai officially stated it was female somewhereIvysaur can be whatever gender you want it to be. Apparently in Japan, the its voice is feminine, but that doesn't hold up in English.
Give me the source.No Sakurai officially stated it was female somewhere
Even if he did (which I doubt), it would be hard for him to prove it to me. Peach is clearly female. I suppose Shulk is male. But Pokemon? Genders don't look different at all. And if we're going off of voice, Ivysaur sounds male in our localization.No Sakurai officially stated it was female somewhere
You suppose? lol. (Pictures Shulk as a girl in his own game.) That would be very awkward considering his relationships with the other characters in the game.Even if he did (which I doubt), it would be hard for him to prove it to me. Peach is clearly female. I suppose Shulk is male. But Pokemon? Genders don't look different at all. And if we're going off of voice, Ivysaur sounds male in our localization.
Give me the source.
Huh, I was so sure it was officially stated but apparently people accepted Ivysaur as a girl through the Japanese voice Actress. Nevermind then, but I'll still consider Ivysaur a girl myself.Even if he did (which I doubt), it would be hard for him to prove it to me. Peach is clearly female. I suppose Shulk is male. But Pokemon? Genders don't look different at all. And if we're going off of voice, Ivysaur sounds male in our localization.
Okie Dokie. :3Huh, I was so sure it was officially stated but apparently people accepted Ivysaur as a girl through the Japanese voice Actress. Nevermind then, but I'll still consider Ivysaur a girl myself.
Pokemon Gender
Yes and no. Some animals have a trait, and loose it when they get older. For example, a tadpole looses it's tail. Male Ivysaur could loose the pistil when they evolve into a Venusaur, and the female Ivysaur's pistil grows larger when it evolves. Since we don't know how this works, we can't really say what gender it is.FemaleMale
pistil=femaleno pistil = male
This shows how definitely Pikachu is Male for example! Jigglypuff should be female simply due to the female protagonist hats
Ivysaur depends on if a pistil can be seen(original sprites doesn't have them obviously, but since the evolution has it...well it would make sense no?)
I don't know what the heck sexual dimorphism is (or what you meant by that whole reply) so let's just agree to disagree.@ SMAASH! Puppy Metamorphosis isn't a trait, furthermore sexual dimorphism exists in the Pokemon Universe, that is my point. Venusaur has it two, so if in whatever case Ivysaur's visible, it is female. Otherwise male (except obviously what the creators expected)
I have an idea for the OP. I don't think any of your arguments are very convincing. (Except for the trophy one, but that isn't really said anymore.)Guys,Im Updating the thread now!
You should put something like "The franchise should not determine what character would be a good DLC option" because the majority thinks we have too many Mario characters as well. I don't think it would be the most influential of counter arbuments, but I think it would be better than saying we have a lot of Mario "reps".*points for the mario series (7 Chars)
You should put...Um...I got nothin'. Sorry. I would say to put something along the lines of "Some people like the character, and if he was DLC, they could play him again/at all." but people don't really care about that. But I don't think the whole "trinity" thing is all that influential either since some people (including me) think that characters should stand on their own merits, not some gimmicky thing. Maybe you could say something about abandoning a unique veteran? I dunno.*Besides, Ivysaur would be the same as a starter grass type, since we already have Charizard (Fire) and Greninja (Water). Ivysaur would be the grass type one.
I have an idea for the OP. I don't think any of your arguments are very convincing. (Except for the trophy one, but that isn't really said anymore.)
I think instead of:
You should put something like "The franchise should not determine what character would be a good DLC option" because the majority thinks we have too many Mario characters as well. I don't think it would be the most influential of counter arbuments, but I think it would be better than saying we have a lot of Mario "reps".
Also instead of:
You should put...Um...I got nothin'. Sorry. I would say to put something along the lines of "Some people like the character, and if he was DLC, they could play him again/at all." but people don't really care about that. But I don't think the whole "trinity" thing is all that influential either since some people (including me) think that characters should stand on their own merits, not some gimmicky thing. Maybe you could say something about abandoning a unique veteran? I dunno.
You don't have to put these in if you don't want to. They are just suggestions.