Madlobster
Smash Apprentice
Wizzard foot? NP just crouch under it :D Its pretty silly what kirby can actualy get away with just crouching.
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Kirby General Discussion
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ryuu seika
Smash Master
No, that's obviously either Distortion Blade or Demonic Tiger Blade. I just call it "Final Cutter" or "Eegaa, Ay!" though, due to confusion over which tech it is.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
I like to call his upB "********," but i guess thats just me?
******** is a word I use only for people who legitimately try and use Pichu ever.
That includes you CACTUS!
That includes you CACTUS!
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
lol u mad, because pichu is cuter than kirby 
ryuu seika
Smash Master
I downloaded extra cute Kirby for Brawl so I win on cuteness grounds.
I love Pichu just because of how stupid he is as a character, though I still like to use his ability seriously after Copying.
I love Pichu just because of how stupid he is as a character, though I still like to use his ability seriously after Copying.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Pichu is cuter. But Kirby looks pretty cute right after he swallows somebody. 
Wake
Smash Master
Pichu is not cute... and neither is Kirby.
Massive
Smash Champion
Kirby is more like a force of nature than anything.
You do not call a tsunami cute, or a tornado cute (ok maybe if you're a girl).
If you take anything from kirby: food, paint, a hat, freedom, etc. He will not only destroy your home and livelihood, he will find everyone you've ever associated with and either eat or kill them. He may kill, eat, or launch you into orbit as well.
He cannot be cute, I'm pretty sure he's chaotic neutral if he's anything.
Also, pichus hatch from eggs and are thereby filthy disgusting bird-mammals. Cute license REVOKED. Go press down to sleep somewhere else.
You do not call a tsunami cute, or a tornado cute (ok maybe if you're a girl).
If you take anything from kirby: food, paint, a hat, freedom, etc. He will not only destroy your home and livelihood, he will find everyone you've ever associated with and either eat or kill them. He may kill, eat, or launch you into orbit as well.
He cannot be cute, I'm pretty sure he's chaotic neutral if he's anything.
Also, pichus hatch from eggs and are thereby filthy disgusting bird-mammals. Cute license REVOKED. Go press down to sleep somewhere else.
BunBun
Smash Master
You now realize that Kirby is actually the antagonist in almost all of his games.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Kirby is a beast. That's why I use him.
Someone once stole Kirby's cake.
He proceeded to kill everyone on the planet.
This isnt a joke, it's the story of Kirby Squeak Squad
He proceeded to kill everyone on the planet.
This isnt a joke, it's the story of Kirby Squeak Squad
Wake
Smash Master
Now you guys are getting it. Kirby is cool, and powerful, and a monster, but not cute.
And Pichu is just a giant yellow sewer rat trying to pass himself off as a Melee character.
And Pichu is just a giant yellow sewer rat trying to pass himself off as a Melee character.
BunBun
Smash Master
It gets worse, the treasure chest he thought the cake was in was actually sealing the big bad villain, and he released him.
Triple R
Smash Lord
And about that time he released Nightmare from the Fountain of Dreams. Yeah....
Hey, remember when he stole the triforce? That was pretty cool. He even got it appraised to sell.
BunBun
Smash Master
And remember that time he used the Rock power on that guy while he was rock climbing, and the dude had to cut his hand off to get out?
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that totally reminds me of a Justice League episode.
Madlobster
Smash Apprentice
A godly fluffy little pink beast :D
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Kirby isn't fluffy.
Godly? Yes. Pink? Usually. Beast? Definitely. Fluffy? No.
Godly? Yes. Pink? Usually. Beast? Definitely. Fluffy? No.
My Plush Mirror Kirby is quite fluffy.
BunBun
Smash Master
Mine is too.
So are my Angel, Hammer, Fighter, Yoyo, Plasma and Normal Kirbies.
So are my Angel, Hammer, Fighter, Yoyo, Plasma and Normal Kirbies.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
How come you all have nice Kirby Plushies?
Mines only 2 inches tall and made of paper.
Mines only 2 inches tall and made of paper
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Man. Kirby's fair and dair have so many unexplored uses. I'm going to have to start paving the way.
Wake
Smash Master
I hate Kirby's fair so much. There's like 30 hits in there.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
I use these moves alot. What would you consider their "unexplored uses"?
I tried to abuse the Dair's tumble animation like jiggs could. Not a lot that's really interesting that you can do with it, though if you're near a ledge it IS possible to do edge canceled Dair->double jump Inhale on the tumble for a swallowcide. Only on larger characters though =\
Triple R
Smash Lord
Is the tumble animation you're talking about the one where you hit with most but not all of the dair and they like lean to the side and it leads to an easy grab? Just wondering what you meant by the tumble.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Well, fair has some amazing combo potential if you understand what each of the 3 4 hits does exactly.
And dair has ... a lot of possibilities. Around 85%, a super late dair (so that only the first hit connects) will pop floaties up perfectly for an u-tilt/bair/whatever you want. Also, you can space a dair so that the grounded hit doesn't connect, and then you get a free grab or anything. Plus, I'm starting to think that if you dair someone who's on a platform, but DI yourself away so that you fall below the platform, you can take advantage of that hitstun.
And dair has ... a lot of possibilities. Around 85%, a super late dair (so that only the first hit connects) will pop floaties up perfectly for an u-tilt/bair/whatever you want. Also, you can space a dair so that the grounded hit doesn't connect, and then you get a free grab or anything. Plus, I'm starting to think that if you dair someone who's on a platform, but DI yourself away so that you fall below the platform, you can take advantage of that hitstun.
Yes .
BunBun
Smash Master
Doing a super late dair against a grounded opponent is like saying "COME HIT ME PLEASE, BEFORE MY MOVE STARTS"
Triple R
Smash Lord
Well, I presume you wouldn't try to do it if your opponent is just standing there lol. Frankly any move with Kirby you're asking to get punished. All the more tools, situational or not, are need with Kirby.
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Hmmmm.... I see you!
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
@ BunBun: Correct. I was just throwing out stuff that I've been in the lab with.
By the way, SH retreating non-fastfallen dair is amazing because if they run into it, they get frozen in place (since the grounded hit doesn't connect when you're moving backwards enough).
By the way, SH retreating non-fastfallen dair is amazing because if they run into it, they get frozen in place (since the grounded hit doesn't connect when you're moving backwards enough).
Wake
Smash Master
Ocho is a stalker.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Man. I miss having people to practice with.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
You can do Dair > tumble > F-smash on a lot of characters and it's kind of cute
You'd never do late Dair, there's no point (unless they're at 100%+ and you can 1st hit Dair > free move for the KO). You just do it early and then drift according to how you think they'll DI (or away, if you think they'll hold down) until they get hit by enough hits to go into the "tumble" animation. Then you do a move. And it *****. Kind of. Sort of. Not really.
It's got the issue of being totally ruined by DI and other things (if they somehow move into you because of SDI or other crap, you'll hit the last hit and push them away and break them out of the tumble animation) but alas such is Kirby's fate. He's not allowed great combo starters. Except up tilt.
edit:
You can try to delay the Dair to avoid things like SDI shenanigans, but then you might not hit enough hits of the Dair to flip them into the tumble animation either. Which is sucky, because then there's insufficient stun to do much but a tilt / grab. And because you have to drift away to avoid hitting the last hit, you're probably too far for up tilt. Lame.
You'd never do late Dair, there's no point (unless they're at 100%+ and you can 1st hit Dair > free move for the KO). You just do it early and then drift according to how you think they'll DI (or away, if you think they'll hold down) until they get hit by enough hits to go into the "tumble" animation. Then you do a move. And it *****. Kind of. Sort of. Not really.
It's got the issue of being totally ruined by DI and other things (if they somehow move into you because of SDI or other crap, you'll hit the last hit and push them away and break them out of the tumble animation) but alas such is Kirby's fate. He's not allowed great combo starters. Except up tilt.
edit:
You can try to delay the Dair to avoid things like SDI shenanigans, but then you might not hit enough hits of the Dair to flip them into the tumble animation either. Which is sucky, because then there's insufficient stun to do much but a tilt / grab. And because you have to drift away to avoid hitting the last hit, you're probably too far for up tilt. Lame.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
That's a very informative post. I didn't know how the tumble animation worked, but it makes sense now.
Isn't it true, though, that if you connect with Kirby's dair in such a way that the "grounded" hit doesn't hit them, it won't knock them out of the "stun" (for example, by retreating as you do the dair, or by hitting them from below a platform, without landing on the platform)?
Isn't it true, though, that if you connect with Kirby's dair in such a way that the "grounded" hit doesn't hit them, it won't knock them out of the "stun" (for example, by retreating as you do the dair, or by hitting them from below a platform, without landing on the platform)?
Massive
Smash Champion
I mostly use dair to lock their shield for free utiltgasm.
If you're in the air and they're on the ground/below you, they can't do much at all against a dair. The hitbox is disjointed enough that it is safe to use on utilts/uairs and it's nearly unpublishable if you land behind and l-cancel correctly.
I'd say it's probably kirby's safest approach.
If you're in the air and they're on the ground/below you, they can't do much at all against a dair. The hitbox is disjointed enough that it is safe to use on utilts/uairs and it's nearly unpublishable if you land behind and l-cancel correctly.
I'd say it's probably kirby's safest approach.
Nashun
Smash Ace
I 100% disagree. Move is too slow. Kirby has to be too close to the dude for him to be able to land a dair behind. Opp isn't going to shield in that case rofl.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Dair is pretty safe when used correctly. It has fewer gaps between than fair, obviously. Gotta know when to use it though.