KoSa!'s DK matchups

[itsthebigfoot]

metaknight is 90 -10 in metaknight favor if the mk spams the tornado and if he spams the nado when u have no jumps left ur bg

dk's moves that beat the nado

running attack
pivot grab
utilt
ftilt
usmash
dsmash
punch
downb (if they're that low)
bair
uair (from above)
nair (from above)

you'll be fine, get better at the game

nado isn't even what makes mk good, mk's best moves are uair, dtilt and his dashgrab

 

[crifer]

fsmash, dair from above
Best: Upangled ftilt

 

[Veggi]

Wait, up tilt knocks him out of it? What does the spacing have to be like for it to work? Mine get eaten by it.

I'll try the super armor punch though, thanks.

 

[crifer]

show them your back then uptilt

 

[Cyphus]

dk's moves that beat the nado

running attack
pivot grab
utilt
ftilt
usmash
dsmash
punch
downb (if they're that low)
bair
uair (from above)
nair (from above)

you'll be fine, get better at the game

nado isn't even what makes mk good, mk's best moves are uair, dtilt and his dashgrab

not exactly true. those are moves that 'can' beat the tornado. But if the MK uses Tornado correctly (not starting it in DK's face) its priority will have gained to not be beaten the majority of those, plus he can space/angle it easier quicker than DK can respond to.

DK's best option is up angled F.tilt, though.

 

[DK_047]

LOL Why does it say 55:60 on the match-up against mario?

 

[KoSa!]

LOL Why does it say 55:60 on the match-up against mario?

55:45 or 60:40... It was kinda obvious.

 

[DK_047]

oh ok. Makes sense

 

[itsthebigfoot]

oh crap, its bizarro 740

 

[Veggi]

Super friends assemble!

 

[Darknid]

Hey if Luigi is a bad matchup, so is Mario, hear me out. The cape is so **** and Mario is actually HARDER for DK to gimp than Luigi, plus he has a more spammable fireball and is faster. Combos just as well. Mario is 55-45 Mario adv. IMO. You talk about Luigi killing early..how about Mario's gimps, those kill even earlier. Also has superior range to Luigi so you can't space him as well(though you can still space the hell out of him).

Also, Bowser..Probably 60-40 DK advantage, but Bowser is no one to mess with. Maybe closer to even. Also, DK Snake is 60-40 DK, and I believe he has an advantage over game and watch as well. As far as MK goes..you can slap a 50-50 on that but man, it's still gonna be your second toughest matchup.

 

[KoSa!]

Bowser doesn't have much. He has great vertical KO moves but they don't KO DK early in the match. DK has range on his Ftilt and Dtilt. Approaching Bairs can beat out all of Bowser's aerials I believe maybe not Nair. Easy to gimp.

Snake gets the head in that one. I just don't see why DK should have the advantage. Snake can out camp him. I fought matches were I got completely walled by snake via motars/nades/c4s/An AK47 that he magical pulls out/etc.

Toughest matchups are MK,Snake,Mario,Diddy,Wario. Olimar has the advantage but maybe with some more thought you can actually get the upper hand in the match.

 

[daisho]

Strategy vs snake.

Grab. Cargo D throw at the edge. Spike. Spike. Spike. I think is almost dead wait... Spike.

Repeat.

 

[Ripple]

Strategy vs snake.

Grab. Cargo D throw at the edge. Spike. Spike. Spike. I think is almost dead wait... Spike.

Repeat.

try that stategy against ally and see how far it gets you

 

[Darknid]

As far as Bowser is concerned, you may not want to approach with bairs because he can shield to dash grab a perfectly spaced bair and in that case he may as well have a tether grab because his dash grab, like all of his moves, is quick with a lot of ending lag. Also, a grab means a lot for Bowser what with his CGs(though DK is the hardest to ground break CG). Also, the flamethrower is extremely underrated and he will deal massive damage on you by predicting your DI so he can keep you away with it. As far as aerials go, he probably won't be challenging you there although his fair has underrated range as well. It has enough range to pop you after an avoided bair. He can also move around a stage faster than you, if you can believe that. He can also have some fun with your recovery. He won't gimp you but he can deal a lot of damage.


As for Snake..again it's just up to you to avoid his traps while still pressuring him. Great trap placement is hell for DK but that's not so easy to achieve with the monster running you down. Just abuse down B, not much Snake can do against it if you use it intelligently. Your weight also doesn't mean much to him because he racks up damage oh so well, but you'll notice if you play smart and use your down B to nullify his entire ground game, avoiding his projectiles means you won't take any damage. The only thing I find hard is getting the kill with anything but giant punch because of Snake's amazing tilts preventing you from getting many smashing opportunities.

But all of this doesn't mean it will be easy by any means, just that DK has an advantage.

 

[daisho]

try that stategy against ally and see how far it gets you

If i try any strategy against ally i will lose...

 

[Ragnar0k]

Strategy vs snake.

Grab. Cargo D throw at the edge. Spike. Spike. Spike. I think is almost dead wait... Spike.

Repeat.

try that stategy against ally and see how far it gets you

It worked on chillin. B moves are especially useful against snake as well.

 

[Paroxium]

Olimar Is 60:40? O.o

 

[daisho]

Some threads are dead for a reason...

 

[Jmex]

Yes 60-40....

If you dont believe me, play a good Olimar... You will learn the ****.

 

[ZxChrono]

Hey if Luigi is a bad matchup, so is Mario, hear me out. The cape is so **** and Mario is actually HARDER for DK to gimp than Luigi, plus he has a more spammable fireball and is faster. Combos just as well. Mario is 55-45 Mario adv. IMO. You talk about Luigi killing early..how about Mario's gimps, those kill even earlier. Also has superior range to Luigi so you can't space him as well(though you can still space the hell out of him).

Also, Bowser..Probably 60-40 DK advantage, but Bowser is no one to mess with. Maybe closer to even. Also, DK Snake is 60-40 DK, and I believe he has an advantage over game and watch as well. As far as MK goes..you can slap a 50-50 on that but man, it's still gonna be your second toughest matchup.

if your going off of theory about marios cape, you shouldnt be getting gimped by it till about 90% since thats about how much dmg you would have for him to knock you off far enough from the stage to get a successful gimp. if you get gimped around 40% then you obviously made a big mistake while trying to go off stage and gimp him or you did upb near the edge and he caped you. him gimping you should happen late in your stock, it might be a little earlier than you usually live but its not a huge loss. I played socal marios before Ronin, supaTony, vatobreak and some other marios. I play Ronin the most and he uses both Mario and Luigi, i also play others that use luigi extensively as well. Believe me Mario is even if not 55-45 DK, for Luigi its 55-45 Luigi.

 

[KoSa!]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

don't bring this thread back up. I already made new matchups.

 

[ZxChrono]

lol ok my bad. hey is that anime pic from that Boxing anime, the guy with the corkscrew punch? i forget the name of that anime.

 

[Jmex]

Should we just tell Susa to lock this? OR delete it since hes back to the DK's again?

 

[Imainlowtier]

Lock. People can still garner info from this thread.