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Let's talk about Link.
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KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
anyone who isn't a space animal.
HiIH
Smash Lord
Spacies to brinstar anyone?
Skler
Smash Master
Brinstar is a stage I usually avoid because it's very anti-hookshot. I take spacies to battlefield, it makes them easier to edgeguard (no wall riding to sweetspot easily) and is big enough for Link's recovery to matter. The platforms don't do him any harm either when it comes to avoiding laser spam.
I take everyone but jiggly, captain falcon and Fox to RC. Falco is pretty iffy on RC, on one hand his lasers become kind of useless, but on the other his crappy recovery doesn't really matter anymore (although his fall speed, really high jump height and average dash makes his platform to platform movement predictable). Falco also has some pretty stupid gimps there, but it's so easy to tell where he'll be that you don't need to worry about it.
I take everyone but jiggly, captain falcon and Fox to RC. Falco is pretty iffy on RC, on one hand his lasers become kind of useless, but on the other his crappy recovery doesn't really matter anymore (although his fall speed, really high jump height and average dash makes his platform to platform movement predictable). Falco also has some pretty stupid gimps there, but it's so easy to tell where he'll be that you don't need to worry about it.
HiIH
Smash Lord
(shrug) I find the sides are narrow enough that the lack of hookshot doesn't really hurt, but that's just me.
Shaeman111
Smash Ace
No.
This thread is too beautiful to be controlled by the likes of you.
Link lives on!
Err, so back on track, i think brinstar's good against fox because of his semispike (up-b) potential.
Also because link is heavy, and has good air recovery, the fire(acid or w/e it is) shouldn't be a big problem. and fox is a fastfaller, and has bad air recovery, which means if u can gimp him into the flames, and he's SCREWED!
Falco on the other hand, has good knockback and priority, which means he can knock you off pretty easily, and have good edgeguarding (the spike) so you can be pretty f'd there.
And skler...... nice combo video! epic use of link's midair jump after the short hopped bair! :D 5 stars!
This thread is too beautiful to be controlled by the likes of you.
Link lives on!
Err, so back on track, i think brinstar's good against fox because of his semispike (up-b) potential.
Also because link is heavy, and has good air recovery, the fire(acid or w/e it is) shouldn't be a big problem. and fox is a fastfaller, and has bad air recovery, which means if u can gimp him into the flames, and he's SCREWED!
Falco on the other hand, has good knockback and priority, which means he can knock you off pretty easily, and have good edgeguarding (the spike) so you can be pretty f'd there.
And skler...... nice combo video! epic use of link's midair jump after the short hopped bair! :D 5 stars!
Shaeman111
Smash Ace
ok........
Epok
Smash Ace
Here are some of the trick I use.
Double jump down throw/bomb drop out of shield
bomb drop waveland- situational but sexy
ledge cancelled-spin attack for edge guarding- it's quick and you dont have to turn around.
heres a fun one: hold sheild while bomb explodes, if you hit your opponent you can areial outta shiled. VERY situational but sweet as a random mix up.
arrow to grab- give enough stun to get a grab if short hopped, or they sheild it and you can still grab.
what do ya think????
Double jump down throw/bomb drop out of shield
bomb drop waveland- situational but sexy
ledge cancelled-spin attack for edge guarding- it's quick and you dont have to turn around.
heres a fun one: hold sheild while bomb explodes, if you hit your opponent you can areial outta shiled. VERY situational but sweet as a random mix up.
arrow to grab- give enough stun to get a grab if short hopped, or they sheild it and you can still grab.
what do ya think????
HiIH
Smash Lord
Yeah, but it gimps the ability for them to illusion to the edge on Brinstar.
Skler
Smash Master
If you short hop an arrow at somebody they will smash you, shield it and grab before Link's grab comes out or just walk away slowly, seeing as both Link and the arrow are slow.
The others are all fine.
I'll give you guys the most important Link tip you'll ever get:
NAIR.
To help remember it I like to think of the sentence "Never Attack Insane Roys", the sentence also helps remind you to camp against everyone camping works against. Now go win.
The others are all fine.
I'll give you guys the most important Link tip you'll ever get:
NAIR.
To help remember it I like to think of the sentence "Never Attack Insane Roys", the sentence also helps remind you to camp against everyone camping works against. Now go win.
Shaeman111
Smash Ace
I'm sorry skler.
But that was the best advice ive ever seen. my new signature. fo sho'
(i can relate because i probably play against the best roy player alive, and i sometimes don't know what to do. and i dont realize camping = good)
since i frequently play foxes, and falcos, im not so used to camping, but approaching!
But that was the best advice ive ever seen. my new signature. fo sho'
(i can relate because i probably play against the best roy player alive, and i sometimes don't know what to do. and i dont realize camping = good)
since i frequently play foxes, and falcos, im not so used to camping, but approaching!
Ya, whenever im link I just spam shffld nairs to approach, and if you can get falco off the ledge even at low percents he is pretty much gone so focus on getting him off the stage and your life becomes a lot easier than if you are trying to like up+b him from mid stage or w/e.
Skler
Smash Master
The rang can't cancel Link's upB in mid move or else Link's recovery would be really broken. Are you sure you weren't just about to upB and ended up catching the rang instead?
yeah i think it was about to up B then it canceled.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
I heard dope likes to CP rainbow cruise alot?
Maybe it's just his personal taste though, rather than falco being good on that stage
Maybe it's just his personal taste though, rather than falco being good on that stage
Shaeman111
Smash Ace
well, when i took ur advice flip, i got carried away!
i grabbed falco, threw up, up tilted, then followed DI and shffl naired, which knocked him off the cliff at like 60%
then i knocked him out of his midair jump by up-b edge cancelling at the edge, so i just knicked him with a couple weak up-b slashes (if u kno what im talking about)
then he charges up-b just under me, and i bair from the edge (without jumping) and then hooked myself back on for an edgehog.......
I WENT CRAZY WITH IT lol.
i grabbed falco, threw up, up tilted, then followed DI and shffl naired, which knocked him off the cliff at like 60%
then i knocked him out of his midair jump by up-b edge cancelling at the edge, so i just knicked him with a couple weak up-b slashes (if u kno what im talking about)
then he charges up-b just under me, and i bair from the edge (without jumping) and then hooked myself back on for an edgehog.......
I WENT CRAZY WITH IT lol.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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I heard scrah out of shield gets you ***** if your opponent is at like zero.
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I heard Scraaaaa at zero gets you ***** cause IT'S A BAD IDEA.
usually when my opponent is at low percent i use Links projectiles to rack up damage cause if you sword fight them, they can CC to Usmash (assuming your facing fox)
I'm usually playing defensive against any fox. I've asked skler countless times and he has told me jabs and uptilts. Jabs **** a lot of approaches, and up tilt juggles would be grrrrrrreat but you can't juggle fox till 40% ish (I Think) I know you can't do it at 0 at least.
Spacing fairs against Fox is my favskies too.
yeah everytime i land an arial i usually jab.
so like Nair Jab Jab Wavedash back twice, i use this sometimes and it works nicely.
It creates space =D
I aerial -> dsmash way to much. It's okay but aerial -> jab has so many more options.
I can't say though that I've ever done well against a very good fox. Skill>Tiers so I destroy people who are worse than me though (there aren't many now thanks to brawl .-.).
Against Fox at low percents I drop nairs on their approach, throw out some retreating nairs if they're rushing or just jab. Direct projectile's are a bad idea imo because if they reflect it it cuts off your approach lane.
My favorite to do though is pull a bomb and read their movements. It's usually pretty obvious when they realize you have a bomb and they're waiting for you to throw it so they can block (reflect in this case). Dash dance around, jump towards them and up throw, then you can go punish.
Chances are they aren't moving as you're coming down and/or very confused. It should only work once (if it even works). If it doesn't work it's put a projectile in a different place that they'll have to watch out for anyway.
Er yes. Go Link.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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...it seemed like a good idea at the time =(
lmfao.
*grabs fox, back throw, fox illisions .. SCRAHH!!"*
0-10 death combo lol
this really sucks.
Stage: low ceiling platform stage: Yoshis Island and FoD
Links percent: low.
Fox waveshines Link twice. Instead of waveshining you across, Fox decides to Usmash. Not done yet, Fox follows with Uair, hits. lands on PLATFORM, Uair x 2.. Link dies.
this more ****ed up that Fox waveshining you or fox camping you for a Usmash kill.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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You could learn to SDI out of the uair...
AlcyoNite
Smash Champion
Advice from a fox: create space; it' s ur primary objective considering fox's objective is to box out ur space.
Link NEEDS this space to take advantage of all the **** he has anyways
Link NEEDS this space to take advantage of all the **** he has anyways
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Cheesecake with graham crackers. Mmm Cold Stone.
Shaeman111
Smash Ace
Yummy yummy
whats better than a skraaaaaaaaaa???
A skraaaaa and then a nice trip to dairy queen.
this is madness.
Link boards is soo dead =(
French Vanilla
lmfao.
K um so when Link is getting shield pressured with shines what are we suppose to do?
i find buffer rolling but sometimes they still get me =(
also i nair out, works when it hits.
Link boards is soo dead =(
French Vanilla
lmfao.
K um so when Link is getting shield pressured with shines what are we suppose to do?
i find buffer rolling but sometimes they still get me =(
also i nair out, works when it hits.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Depends on how you're getting shined. Multishine, or just pillaring?