dawn001
Smash Ace
oh ok thanks...so does anyone give me some advice on how to play a good zelda all she does is that toe of her any advice on that?
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Mewtwo Casual ChatThread <3
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slave1
Smash Lord
because that all she gots.
dont get hit
dont get hit
dawn001
Smash Ace
well no **** i know that i meant how to approach her ?
Airo
Smash Lord
again, you have to stick to the ground. going aerial is always suicide. play patiently, space carefully.
zelda's player style has lots of holes in it. She is all about creating proper spacing between you and her in order for her Fair and Bair to hit. Your goal is to quickly sneak into her little bubble where her position is too close for her fair and bair to hit. Once you are very close to her, she becomes decently harmless and you can commence with your usual ground game and combos.
Because she has no projectiles, you are free to use wavedash and dashdance as your mindgame for approaching. Also use lots of SB to mess up her spacing and timing. Try not to stand in range of her Bair/Fair, but when you do, always have yourself up. She has no way of punishing your shield.
Its rare that you would need to edgeguard her. Usually your fair or upthrow does the kill.
But when you need to edgeguard her, i would generally grab the ledge to trick her into teleporting towards the stage. Without sweetspot, her teleport should have sufficient lag for you to catch up to her and finish the kill.
Zelda is such a simple character. Her moves are strong, but requires delicate spacing. Against faster characters, she has no chance of managing her spacing properly. I dont know why mewtwo is lower tier than her >>" (dont reply to this paragraph)
zelda's player style has lots of holes in it. She is all about creating proper spacing between you and her in order for her Fair and Bair to hit. Your goal is to quickly sneak into her little bubble where her position is too close for her fair and bair to hit. Once you are very close to her, she becomes decently harmless and you can commence with your usual ground game and combos.
Because she has no projectiles, you are free to use wavedash and dashdance as your mindgame for approaching. Also use lots of SB to mess up her spacing and timing. Try not to stand in range of her Bair/Fair, but when you do, always have yourself up. She has no way of punishing your shield.
Its rare that you would need to edgeguard her. Usually your fair or upthrow does the kill.
But when you need to edgeguard her, i would generally grab the ledge to trick her into teleporting towards the stage. Without sweetspot, her teleport should have sufficient lag for you to catch up to her and finish the kill.
Zelda is such a simple character. Her moves are strong, but requires delicate spacing. Against faster characters, she has no chance of managing her spacing properly. I dont know why mewtwo is lower tier than her >>" (dont reply to this paragraph)
quak
Smash Champion
i ****ing hate zelda
dawn001
Smash Ace
your telling me i have a mm$ with a zelda in houston i have to get prepare,,,
slave1
Smash Lord
are you countin your chickens before they hatch. you getting yourself into a MM and you dont even know if you will win
Airo
Smash Lord
thats cause you play a very aggressive mewtwo.
arrowhead
Smash Ace
i heard taj quit on shadowclaw 2 cause of wow
I didn't quit anything, I only supplied the footage, I'm not the one putting the video together. Lt. Blue and Black Mamba are the ones currently working on it, I can't help it if they've been busy for 6 months.
Airo
Smash Lord
Taj, would u ever upload those matches onto youtube?
arrowhead
Smash Ace
thats just what i heard. sorry
I have none of the footage with me anymore, they have it all, so maybe when I get my dvds back, or if they choose to.
quak
Smash Champion
wtf guys
dawn001
Smash Ace
OH NO is not that, i know ill win all i have to do is up throw her at 80 or 90% and that kills her ..but i was just asking for advice if they were other ways of get near her thats all.
quak
Smash Champion
you sound like an aspiring master of *****
while im at it, i hate everyone here, cept pdiz, lavagolem cause he plays aggro, and taj cause he's ****ing huge and im afraid of him
someone dear god flame me back, it's been sooooooo long
quak
Smash Champion
dude, thank god
people here are too ****ing nice
btw, the "*****" was kocks, master of kocks
how did you get around the censor? i'll tell you how to make a post less than 10 characters....
people here are too ****ing nice
btw, the "*****" was kocks, master of kocks
how did you get around the censor? i'll tell you how to make a post less than 10 characters....
quak
Smash Champion
> 10
I already know how to post less than ten characters. And how to break caps filter. Unless you know how to post < ten with just one word, and an immediately following period. Like the entire post being "hi." No spaces in between word and period. Do you?
quak
Smash Champion
i do not
slave1
Smash Lord
that was good
Greater than much?
quak
Smash Champion
that post got mod-ed
quak
Smash Champion
talkin about ur curse filter bypass post jonis nads
you can't make fun of my sn, it's already ridiculous
gradeschool humor, classic
you can't make fun of my sn, it's already ridiculous
gradeschool humor, classic
The___cheese
Smash Lord
Quak has the weirdest sn ever.
ShuffleTrain
Smash Journeyman
Wasn't the inspiration for Mewtwo... Giygas from Earthbound?
Sometimes when I see Giygas...I see Mewtwo curled into a ball.
Sometimes when I see Giygas...I see Mewtwo curled into a ball.
Airo
Smash Lord
i dont see mewtwo
ShuffleTrain
Smash Journeyman
slave1
Smash Lord
so i have a big tourney today wish me good luck
I've recently started using mewtwo and have gotten pretty good with him... but my greatest issue with him is that he's totally hopeless against a sword. I can't manage to get near a person using marth or link when I'm playing as him because they just knock you away before you can get close enough to attack and if you dodge behind them they grab you before you can move. My siblings have noticed this dilemma and are using it against me which is frustrating because I can no longer have any fun with mewtwo.
Does anyone have any mewtwo advice for fighting against people who's attacks are all long range?
Does anyone have any mewtwo advice for fighting against people who's attacks are all long range?
quak
Smash Champion
heh, YOU had a big tourney
the "norcal's ultimate biweely" had something like 100+ entrants with people from 3 states
lasted till 2ish i heard
...i got to leave at 11:00
slave1
Smash Lord
i have mentioned this once before get close and stay close to link. that is the best way for me, you move faster than he does. marths are harder i dont have much experience with really great marths, you would need advice from quak or Airo
quak
Smash Champion
for marth, basicly, once u have the skill to play decent against one, you'll know what to do
That's not particularly helpful... I watched some pro Mewtwo players fight against Marth and they have some good strategies but it's not so easy to replicate... I'd like to practice but every time I choose Mewtwo they just pick Marth. SIGH*
quak
Smash Champion
it's not helpful, but it's true
once you are able to overcome the overwhelming counter of marth, ur probably smart enough to not have to ask for advice on the matchup.
once you are able to overcome the overwhelming counter of marth, ur probably smart enough to not have to ask for advice on the matchup.
Airo
Smash Lord
im afraid im gunna agree. With enough experience, you will be able to figure out the strength and weaknesses of your opponents and henceforth come out with your own solution. Since mewtwo is almost always at a disadvantage in his matchups, every match needs to be played strategicly and differently. While in cases of falco and sheik, what they usually do, works on everyone.
The strategies could go very deep for each character matchup. But on the other hand, each character could have different playing styles even at a competitive level, and so an analysis for each character matchup might not apply in all cases.
In general... "Play More" is practically the answer to anything.
Once you are experience enough with your character and able to analyse a battle by yourself, you will find that you have become capable of playing lots of other characters, simply because "mindgames" and alot of other "advance tecniques" are all transferable skills. Being able to play a wide range of characters is usually an indication of how good a player is.
with that aside
Heres my analysis against marths.
You must stick to the ground. All aerial approaches will fail because mewtwo's aerial attacks have significantly less range than marth's aerials. So while staying on the ground, you are left with wavedashes and dashdances.
Spacing is key in almost all matchups, especially this one. Your goal however is not to make him miss a move. But to make him hit your shield with bad spacing. When opportunity comes, throws or dtilt to multiple fairs are your best choices for racking up damage. With that in mind, simple strategies like running up to him and suddenly holding up your shield works well.
When you need to edgeguard. Bairs work very well when hes in a distance. When hes aiming for sweetspot, dont try to dsmash because his UpB will hit you. Instead you could use the "roll towards ledge with light sheild aiming outwards" edgeguard. (you can ask me more about this). SUNC is also hard to do because you put yourself in danger of stage spiking.
when recovering from the ledge, watch his spacing carefully to figure out your best options in evading his fsmash. Sometimes it may mean that you should teleport horizontally directly onto the stage. Sometimes it means that you should sweetspot first then act accordingly. From grabing the ledge, dont do rising ledgehop aerials because you will always get fsmashed.
Upthrow is usually a good kill at around 120% on FD. If you are playing on a stage with platforms, try and stick to the ground.
And again, marth IS top tier, so if you loose, dont go too hard on yourself. Meanwhile, what is stated above probably are your best options.
Await taj for a more experienced answer.
The strategies could go very deep for each character matchup. But on the other hand, each character could have different playing styles even at a competitive level, and so an analysis for each character matchup might not apply in all cases.
In general... "Play More" is practically the answer to anything.
Once you are experience enough with your character and able to analyse a battle by yourself, you will find that you have become capable of playing lots of other characters, simply because "mindgames" and alot of other "advance tecniques" are all transferable skills. Being able to play a wide range of characters is usually an indication of how good a player is.
with that aside
Heres my analysis against marths.
You must stick to the ground. All aerial approaches will fail because mewtwo's aerial attacks have significantly less range than marth's aerials. So while staying on the ground, you are left with wavedashes and dashdances.
Spacing is key in almost all matchups, especially this one. Your goal however is not to make him miss a move. But to make him hit your shield with bad spacing. When opportunity comes, throws or dtilt to multiple fairs are your best choices for racking up damage. With that in mind, simple strategies like running up to him and suddenly holding up your shield works well.
When you need to edgeguard. Bairs work very well when hes in a distance. When hes aiming for sweetspot, dont try to dsmash because his UpB will hit you. Instead you could use the "roll towards ledge with light sheild aiming outwards" edgeguard. (you can ask me more about this). SUNC is also hard to do because you put yourself in danger of stage spiking.
when recovering from the ledge, watch his spacing carefully to figure out your best options in evading his fsmash. Sometimes it may mean that you should teleport horizontally directly onto the stage. Sometimes it means that you should sweetspot first then act accordingly. From grabing the ledge, dont do rising ledgehop aerials because you will always get fsmashed.
Upthrow is usually a good kill at around 120% on FD. If you are playing on a stage with platforms, try and stick to the ground.
And again, marth IS top tier, so if you loose, dont go too hard on yourself. Meanwhile, what is stated above probably are your best options.
Await taj for a more experienced answer.