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mewtwo is better than lucario

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betterthanbonds9

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Chagen46 said:
No.

9000idiots.

Lame jokes aside, I'm pretty sure most americans have more intelligence coming into the world than giong out of it....
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my reactions in order:

9001 is the lame joke
wut?
I'm going on smogon shoddy, filled with OU noobs and are fun to outpredict and think that shoddy is a brand new thing. Anybody that wishes a battle btb9testing is the sn and yes, I'm gonna test out some decent (but slightly gimmicky) teams.
 
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Chagen46 said:
No.

9000idiots.

Lame jokes aside, I'm pretty sure most americans have more intelligence coming into the world than giong out of it....
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Yep. A village in Texas wants their idiot back.

No offense to anyone in Texas, found that on a card that was for sale.

And now I'm going. School starts extra early tomorrow. :urg:
 
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betterthanbonds9 said:
2 things, doubt there's any true coherent thought in the team (just a put together group of OUs), and i feel a need to shoddy.
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Its not the best team, but actually, I'll let you decide.
DD-Tar
DD-mence
Gyrados (also DD)
Blissey
Bronzong (reflect/light screen support)
Swampert

Offencively meh, and I've been having more trouble than I care to admit in 3 v. 3.
As a defencive whole, it's pretty much impregnable. Sure there might be a counter or two, but the only pokemon with common weaknesses is Tyranitar and Blissey to the fighting type.

EDIT: almost forgot about Salamence and Gyrados with their issues with the rock type. Although Gyrados not so much. Intimidate and water really helps against the rocks.
 
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The Halloween Captain said:
Its not the best team, but actually, I'll let you decide.
DD-Tar
DD-mence
Gyrados (also DD)
Blissey
Bronzong (reflect/light screen support)
Swampert

Offencively meh, and I've been having more trouble than I care to admit in 3 v. 3.
As a defencive whole, it's pretty much impregnable. Sure there might be a counter or two, but the only pokemon with common weaknesses is Tyranitar and Blissey to the fighting type.
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oh, so battle revolution?

If my dad didn't gay up the router to WAP encoding I'd be ARing my way to heaven on poke wifi making as many teams as i wish. Sadly, i have to be limited to shoddy (or i could get PBR, but too many random noobs, with an occassional awesome dude put in, plus money).

i feel like doing an RMT because it's 1am here and i haven't done these in awhile.
mence and gyarados are both SR weak and assuming that gyarados is the bulky variation it means that it loses 25% every switch. The life orb version of either loses 31% every switch plus a nifty 16% every attack after that. Meaning that your sandstorm potentially starts your team off with 2 pokemon at 69% and then 53% after one move, which if you're keeping track means that if you attack twice and they switched in with SR in the air they only get 1 more switch before they die (3 attack, 2 switches or 1 attack, 3 switches). And saying as how most stall-ish teams lead with bronzong/hippopotas (sp?)/forretres that is a nice possibility.

then all your sweepers are physical...so my favorite physical wall zapdos loves your team by roosting off the stone edges and tbolt and HP ice the other 2.

btw, you're terribly mixape fodder, except salamence, but he's only gonna be at ~38% by the time you see him anyway and then he'll just flamethrower probably and that should do it.

and now for some advice i hope to be more constructive:
-Lead with Bronzong and make sure it has hypnosis and SR
-make one of your sweepers special (think about a scarfer or just a generally good special sweeper). In fact, try a tyraniboah, it's a pretty fun set
-make either salamence or gyarados a non flying type sweeper
-different wall combos are more effective, but nvm that.
-when making a team think about different combinations of attacks they have, not just the weaknesses. Like how fighting is usually paired with rock on the physical side or how water/ice, water/electric, electric/ice, grass/fire, fire/ground, or ghost/fighting (it's a lot easier to think of special combinations because i just think of hidden power).

your team also has grass and rock weaknesses

--sorry for 90% single handedly turning this thread about pokemon canon games
 
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Thanks for the help. I don't have much trouble with grass types (Blissey absorbs special attacks, and both Salamence and Gyrados can handle physical grass attacks), but you're right about the rocks.

EDIT: actually, being a Sandstorm team, I really don't use Life orb much at all. Good guess, and if I were a better player, you might know everything about my team, but I'm not.

However, you might want to watch out for taunters - while I don't use taunt YET, I heard it was pretty common for DDers to use the move.

I know all my sweepers are physical, but didn't know it was a problem until it was brought up. I have terrible luck with special sweepers. Any advice?
 
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The Halloween Captain said:
Thanks for the help. I don't have much trouble with grass types (Blissey absorbs special attacks, and both Salamence and Gyrados can handle physical grass attacks), but you're right about the rocks.

EDIT: actually, being a Sandstorm team, I really don't use Life orb much at all. Good guess, and if I were a better player, you might know everything about my team, but I'm not.

However, you might want to watch out for taunters - while I don't use taunt YET, I heard it was pretty common for DDers to use the move.

I know all my sweepers are physical, but didn't know it was a problem until it was brought up. I have terrible luck with special sweepers. Any advice?
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If you're using a SandStream team, try Heatran. His Special Attack and pretty good stats are nothing to laugh at. Lucario has the option of being special as well.
 
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Well, by the transitive property, Lucario is a pokemon, and Lucario is awesome, so pokemon is awesome. There is no reason why we can't discuss high tier pokemon battling in the Lucario forums, after all, we don't stay on topic no matter what we discuss.
 
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Chagen46 said:
What the? What "baby talk"? I missed one hell of a show...
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started here:
Pentaoku said:
But I will only say this, no matter what Mewtwo has over Lucario stat-wise, moveset-wise, etc. Lucario has one edge over Mewtwo. And that's being able to reproduce.
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at post 30 something and has continued on at various points to questions about genetalia

edit:2^8 is the coolest number
 
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The Halloween Captain said:
Just out of curiousity, if you had a focus sash Lucario with the attacks toxic, substitute, and protect, against a standard Mewtwo, who would win?
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well, I'm guessing you'd have it so 4 subs=1hp remaining

and it's not really fair unless m2 switches in on an already subbed lucario using toxic...so

M2: 93.25
L: 75%+1HP
--next turn protect--
M2: 81.25
L: 75%+1HP
--umm, if this is made to beat M2, wouldn't it have darkpulse? w/e then it wins there, but if it's only using these 3 moves...
M2: 62.5%
L: broken sub
--L dies, M2 is at 37.5%

theoretically, bulletpunch or DP is enough i'd guess to kill M2 and at least guarantee a draw, but idk how you'd set this up without maybe a bp....

lucario will not beat M2 unless maybe it's scarfed and modest using DP, but im not sure of that, nor do i want to look it up
 
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The Halloween Captain said:
EDIT: I said substitute, but I really meant endure. That was my bad.
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then why have a focus sash? it's only effective if your poke is at 100% initially. If your gonna endure you might as well use a salac berry, and then outspeed mewtwo for the DP, you can get off 4 turns of toxic stall, which is enough, so yes, it works with salac berry
 
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Azen Zagenite said:
Competitive Pokemon looks so boring! So much memorization and stats, sounds like something M2K would love!

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Lol, QFT. I used to play it, for fun. I didn't hardcore train Pokemon 10 hours a day like some people. It gets WAY too repetitive and WAY too boring. It's fun for like, 10 minutes.
 
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Conclusively said:
Lol, QFT. I used to play it, for fun. I didn't hardcore train Pokemon 10 hours a day like some people. It gets WAY too repetitive and WAY too boring. It's fun for like, 10 minutes.
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When I played sadly I ev trained, iv trained, leveled them up all the way to 100. All those hours wasted..... I could have played Brawl instead. LOL Jk but ya time gone. But hey it was fun while it lasted am I right?
 
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Exactly. I think it's safe to say I was a top level Poke-player (until I quit), and everyone at that level used Pokesav, I think there were like 2 really good players I knew that didn't use it.
 
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