New Smash Bros for WiiU

[PsychoIncarnate]

ROB reminds me, I think we need to be more creative with the movesets

If ROB's moveset had been made by one of us, he's be in a mario kart or some stupid thing. Yet, Sakurai gave him a jet and laser eyes

 

[Artsy Omni]

I just think it's silly to glorify the dog when it's the player who is the true main character of the duck hunt games. The dog is just the player's companion.

In the case of ROB, ROB is an integral part of the gyromite experience. Whereas the dog is just scenery. The fame of duck hunt is the concept of shooting at your screen with a fake gun. That's the element that spread like wildfire.

Had the dog not been there, duck hunt would have been just as popular because of the novelty of the concept of the Zapper.

The dog wasn't the novelty.

ROB WAS the novelty of what he was involved in.

 

[Oasis_S]

If ROB's moveset had been made by one of us, he's be in a mario kart or some stupid thing. Yet, Sakurai gave him a jet and laser eyes

Yeah, Sakurai finds some kind of PERSONALITY or QUIRK in each character and kind of runs with it.

That's why Captain Falcon is a Japanese superhero now.

 

[Barbasol]

I just think it's silly to glorify the dog when it's the player who is the true main character of the duck hunt games. The dog is just the player's companion.

In the case of ROB, ROB is an integral part of the gyromite experience. Whereas the dog is just scenery. The fame of duck hunt is the concept of shooting at your screen with a fake gun. That's the element that spread like wildfire.

Had the dog not been there, duck hunt would have been just as popular because of the novelty of the concept of the Zapper.

The dog wasn't the novelty.

ROB WAS the novelty of what he was involved in.

I actually disagree, Duck Hunt is known for the Laughing Dog. Having a character actually go ahead and mock the player was something people had never seen. DHD is integral to the experience of Duck Hunt.

Other Light Gun games were better than Duck Hunt, like Hogan's Alley, have mostly fallen from memory, while duck Hunt is still relevant THANKS to the Dog.

 

[Metal Overlord]

What would Duck Hunt Dog's Final Smash even be lol? Call his master to come shoot everyone off the screen?

 

[Oasis_S]

So then why go an extra ridiculous mile to make the Laughing Dog a playable character instead of just making a Duck Hunt stage where he laughs at you when you die. Y'know, THE THING HE IS KNOWN FOR. You don't need a playable character to represent every little thing~

 

[Artsy Omni]

I agree. A stage would be better suited to remember Duck Hunt's legacy. That way, you can get shot at by the zapper.

 

[Barbasol]

What would Duck Hunt Dog's Final Smash even be lol? Call his master to come shoot everyone off the screen?

How about...

Open Season: DHD looks around and laughs as a massive flock of Ducks fly across the screen, pelting any enemies hit in the process. A trigger appears on the screen, DHD controls the trigger. Can shoot Ducks to regain health, or enemies for moderate damage.

So then why go an extra ridiculous mile to make the Laughing Dog a playable character instead of just making a Duck Hunt stage where he laughs at you when you die. Y'know, THE THING HE IS KNOWN FOR. You don't need a playable character to represent every little thing~

Right, you don't. But this is an iconic piece of Nintendo's history. DHD is actually a very widely requested character, just look around the net. You'll find plenty of want groups, more than the Smash Boards groups combined.

Or.... simply allow his taunt to be a laugh, like what he's known for.

 

[Metal Overlord]

How about...

Open Season: DHD looks around and laughs as a massive flock of Ducks fly across the screen, pelting any enemies hit in the process. A trigger appears on the screen, DHD controls the trigger. Can shoot Ducks to regain health, or enemies for moderate damage.

Hey, this idea actually isn't bad at all, I like it a lot. I admit that he has more of a chance to get in than someone like Takamaru, if he and Little Mac got in they'd definitely be the Ice Climber/Game and Watch or the Pit/R.O.B of Smash 4.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Dog Hunt Dog has potential, if Sakurai wants him in it WILL happen. Period.

/doghunt dog debate

 

[MechaWave]

This doesn't relate to SSB4.

Okay guys. This is my Paper Mario fansite that took me forever to actually do. It started in 2008 and then I took it down a few months after that. Due to incredible laziness and lack-of-interest I didn't reboot it. But then something happened etc. etc. it's up now. Just have to finish the content and forums and it's done!

Feedback would be nice but I'm just showing y'all it for the time being.
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[OmegaXXII]

so is that site made by you???

 

[MechaWave]

Yes, of course. All by me.
The only difficult and tedious part is rewriting the coding in the forums. I had to re-install the forums about thrice now.

 

[OmegaXXII]

So, are you admin with forums on there?

Or is it just a fan site? I believe all the maintainance must be alot of work, so when does it open??

 

[MechaWave]

Well yeah. I did everything.
It'll be open next month, maybe earlier. Depends if I mess up the forums yet again.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yes, I remember the good ol' days of being a co-admin at an invision website dedicated to Brawl's release back in 07', I sure do miss those days.

It looks nice to say the least, what skins are you using on there?

 

[MechaWave]

Everything on the website, including the forums, is custom-made by me. So that means my forum's skin was also made by me.
It'll take forever to make people visit the site and regularly post there but I enjoyed making it.

Other than the Paper Mario website, I'm doing another project for all of us that regularly visit this thread.

 

[Oasis_S]

Other than the Paper Mario website, I'm doing another project for all of us that regularly visit this thread.

I better get a throne made of Toad skulls.

 

[Gallowglass]

Okay Samurai Goroh is nearly complete. I just need to think of a Foreword B and Final Smash. I do like Captain Falcon's Foreword Smash and Goroh could do the same with his Fire Stingray but I don't want this to be another Landmaster effect.

His current specials are

B: Stingray Slash: Hold the sword over head with the blade up. He stabs down on the ground in an arch. A flaming sting ray tail appears from the blade and whips out in front of him.

UP B: Spin Out: Goroh holds his sword out about chest height and start spinning wildly. He can move side to side similar to DK’s Up B.

Down B: Wave Cutter: Goroh charges his attack and then slashes in the direction he’s facing. Moon shape pieces of fire are launch to one side. The longer he charges the more waves are launched. No more then 3 waves per charge.

 

[Kantrip]

Goroh's side B should definitely be throwing sand at the opponent.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Everything on the website, including the forums, is custom-made by me. So that means my forum's skin was also made by me.
It'll take forever to make people visit the site and regularly post there but I enjoyed making it.

Other than the Paper Mario website, I'm doing another project for all of us that regularly visit this thread.

That's nice to hear, I can't wait to see how you're hard word looks like.

I'll be on there at least, hopefully if we can get people like Star and Hex on there.

 

[Starphoenix]

Why does the Samurai Goroh moveset description bring Zero to mind?

 

[OmegaXXII]

Also, Master Rapier should do a Samurai blog lol...

That Krystal blog is lulz..

@Star: because he has a sword or katana, it's really dumb IMO, I just rather have Black Shadow.

 

[Sonic Poke]

Why does the Samurai Goroh moveset description bring Zero to mind?

I can think of one! But now I'm a little out of time! tomorrow I make and send you!

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yes, somebody needs to make a good, convincing moveset.

 

[Thino]

this is the best possible roster , you know u want it

 

[OmegaXXII]

Landmasters?? PLEASE!!!!!!

How about 100 characters instead?? Mugen style ya.

 

[Gallowglass]

I don't see why people like Black Shadow so much.

Samurai Goroh has been in nearly every game and is constant villian.

Black Shadow was transported into the void and is presumed Dead. Even if he isn't dead the person who sent him was destroyed.

Also Black Shadow is just a peon for Deathborn while Samurai Goroh is the leader of his gang.

Maybe they like Black Shadow because of his skin tight one piece outfit.

 

[Oasis_S]

I think people like Black Shadow because he seems like a way to get a de-cloned Ganondorf. So any love Black Shadow gets is only indirect love for Ganondorf.

Poor Black Shadow.

 

[Gallowglass]

I think people like Black Shadow because he seems like a way to get a de-cloned Ganondorf. So any love Black Shadow gets is only indirect love for Ganondorf.

But why do they have to keep the old ganondorf moveset? I agree he needs to be de-cloned but I don't see anything special about the old ganondorf worth keeping.

 

[Oasis_S]

That is the question, isn't it.

Probably just because Sakurai seems to like keeping movesets like that around so as not to alienate people who enjoyed them. So if it has to be kept, it should be given to a different character so Ganondorf can get a new moveset.


But yeah, Goroh is pretty clearly the... Well, he's not exactly iconic or all that popular, but after Captain Falcon he's the most notable character no doubt. He's been presented as such at least.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yea..pretty much what Oasis said, Sakurai might not want to do unique movesets this time around, but then again, why wouldn't he?

 

[Gallowglass]

I could understand using Black shadow as a sub if Ganondorf was a high tier character but he isn't.

Goroh has been featured in Smash more often then Black Shadow

He has a trophy in both Melee and Brawl

He was featured in the Melee Intro

Of course he's an AT

Also in the end of Ike's All Star mode finish Samurai Goroh is back to back with Ike.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yea, I think most of us know that Goroh is indeed more popular, but you have to understand that Sakurai's bias towards a certain character may also take effect towards his inclusion, just like Ridley, if he doesn't feel like he shouldn't be a playable character the he will most likely not add him at all, but again, if he wouldn't consider such a thing, why wouldn't Samurai Goroh be at least considered?

 

[Gallowglass]

My statement above shows that Goroh is more popular in Sakurai's eyes then Black Shadow. Besides having a trophy in Brawl Black Shadow isn't featured in Smash at all (Well if you count big blue level which has every F-zero character).

So I believe Samurai Goroh deserves a character concept in my blog.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Do a blog!! I want to see all tbe stupid comments people will write.

On Topic: Like I said, Ridley was popular, he had his own theme, his own trophy and his own intro in Melee, yet he wasn't added as a playable character at all in Brawl, people were positive about his inclusion, what makes you think just because Sakurai recognizes a character means he is deserving at all? Also popularity isn't everything, othe factors such as revevance, Sakurai's bias and interest, demands and such other factors also play roles
as well.

 

[Artsy Omni]

This doesn't relate to SSB4.

Okay guys. This is my Paper Mario fansite that took me forever to actually do. It started in 2008 and then I took it down a few months after that. Due to incredible laziness and lack-of-interest I didn't reboot it. But then something happened etc. etc. it's up now. Just have to finish the content and forums and it's done!

Feedback would be nice but I'm just showing y'all it for the time being.
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I don't want to be harsh, but if you want some honest feedback, I'll offer some.

Read at your own discretion? =P

[COLLAPSE="Constructive Criticisms"]In my honest opinion, the layout looks very dated. Rainbow headers on overcrowded navigation is very early internet, where design principles were nonexistant. It seems to suffer from "everything gets a spot on the front page" syndrome. The navigational sidebars being larger than the content area is also a bad thing. ANd having 2 sidebars is a bit overkill. Overall, the layout needs to be streamlined.

The background is... a little diffuse. Like a hodge podge of Paper Mario art without any real deliberate placement of elements.

The semitransparency of the content and sidebars adds insult to injury in an already scattered looking layout.

But then again, I don't know how much flexibility you have with layout, so I won't go suggesting specific layout changes unless you want me to.[/COLLAPSE]

 

[army man]

you can't expect ANY character to be on sb4, it all depends on sakurai's choosing, he could put tingle instead of mario for all we know.(dear God, please don't let him do that)

 

[Gallowglass]

If I can think of a good foreword B move I would (It seems I'm not too good at Foreword B). And I know it's not a 100% garantee that he will be in but I feel he has the best chance then any other F-Zero character. Just like Ridley has the best chance then any other Metroid character.

I just thought of something. Will be up soon.

 

[Deleted member]

What I really want to see is a full move set of Samurai Goroh. If Master Rapier can convince me that Samurai Goroh would make a good character, then I'll consider supporting him.