Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Gorgonzales]

OK, just out of curiosity…

How do you guys feel about scrolling stages?

Overall they aren't great, but IMO they're important to have. It's fun to see all kinds of options explored for a platform fighter's stages, and scrolling stages seem like a logical next step in that.

Mushroomy Kingdom was cool but I think it's time to stop bringing it back. Rainbow Cruise, on the other hand, is my favorite scroller since it's an actual platforming challenge that starts off slow enough and has a fun layout. It's genuinely one of my favorite stages in the series.

I don't think scrolling stages are bad, they're just very easy to execute wrong. Pac-Land and Rumble Falls are prime examples of that.

 

[Wario Bros.]

In Nintendo's fiscal Q&A, it says they are continuing with new mobile game and app development.

I don't have an idea what they could be making as there hasn't been a clear pattern visible from their previous works but I'm doubtful for something Smash (won't say it's impossible though).

 

[Ivander]

In Nintendo's fiscal Q&A, it says they are continuing with new mobile game and app development.

I don't have an idea what they could be making as there hasn't been a clear pattern visible from their previous works but I'm doubtful for something Smash (won't say it's impossible though).

Well, something interesting to note in regards to mobile game and apps. After this year's CYL and near the start of February for Fire Emblem Heroes, the FEH team sent out a survey to the players. Supposedly, the one and only time they ever sent out a survey for the players was around the first or second year of the game.

 

[Thegameandwatch]

In Nintendo's fiscal Q&A, it says they are continuing with new mobile game and app development.

I don't have an idea what they could be making as there hasn't been a clear pattern visible from their previous works but I'm doubtful for something Smash (won't say it's impossible though).

There are still series left without mobile games such as Zelda but that wouldn't work in my opinion.

One thing that is notable is Super Mario Run is still getting updates for events despite that game not being that relevant.

 

[ninjahmos]

It'll probably never happen, and I've said this before, but I'd love to hear music from Sonic 3D Blast (Both Genesis and Saturn) in the next game, especially this masterpiece:

Oh, and I'd also love to hear this song if Eggman ever gets in:

 

[dream1ng]

What I mean by ‘new age’ is created after Smash 64.

For a lot of fans, it seems the series that have been created after Smash 64 aren’t a priority compared to the series that were in Smash 64 (looking at ). Some people seem to view newer series as ‘lesser’ compared to the Original 12.

You could even put Fire Emblem in this boat, considering it debuted in the West with Smash Melee.

For a lot of newer series, it will likely be a priority for Nintendo to cultivate their recent successes with .

I think it's just that once a series is added, how it could expand is always going to be part of the conversation.

But let's be real, the only pre-Smash series that are regular points of conversation regarding newcomers are the (currently) big ones.


There's really not much serious conversation regarding

growing. Especially in comparison to the four you list.

The first-party conversation is mostly going to hinge on recency, as that's the criteria most newcomers share. So the fanbase priority is based around the newer games, which some pre-Smash series have, and some pre-Smash series don't.

For example if Pikmin stopped getting games, but Star Fox started again, the former would eventually reduce in speculation, while the latter would flourish.

Before Smash 64 and after Smash 64 isn't a signifier most people use... as it doesn't really determine anything apart from how many Smash games a franchise has existed for, and therefore how many opportunities a series has had to expand.

And that's the main reason some big series have lower numbers... they've just had fewer games to be around for, within a crossover that generally expands IPs in a measured pace, with exceptions being infrequent.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Mushroomy Kingdom was cool but I think it's time to stop bringing it back.

They need to bring it back at least once more so they can give the 1-2 version the justice it deserves.

-The only person who thinks the 1-2 version was cool.

 

[dream1ng]

OK, just out of curiosity…

How do you guys feel about scrolling stages?

Some are worse than others (if New Donk counts as scrolling that one's fine) but I would far prefer stages like Skyloft or Delfino that simply move locations or Hollow Bastion or Umbra Clock Tower where the background scrolls but the stage stays (mostly) static.

 

[Wonder Smash]

Mushroomy Kingdom was cool but I think it's time to stop bringing it back. Rainbow Cruise, on the other hand, is my favorite scroller since it's an actual platforming challenge that starts off slow enough and has a fun layout. It's genuinely one of my favorite stages in the series.

I disagree with that. I love Mushroomy Kingdom and I want it to be a series regular from now on.

 

[RileyXY1]

I think it's just that once a series is added, how it could expand is always going to be part of the conversation.

But let's be real, the only pre-Smash series that are regular points of conversation regarding newcomers are the (currently) big ones.


There's really not much serious conversation regarding

growing. Especially in comparison to the four you list.

The first-party conversation is mostly going to hinge on recency, as that's the criteria most newcomers share. So the fanbase priority is based around the newer games, which some pre-Smash series have, and some pre-Smash series don't.

For example if Pikmin stopped getting games, but Star Fox started again, the former would eventually reduce in speculation, while the latter would flourish.

Before Smash 64 and after Smash 64 isn't a signifier most people use... as it doesn't really determine anything apart from how many Smash games a franchise has existed for, and therefore how many opportunities a series has had to expand.

And that's the main reason some big series have lower numbers... they've just had fewer games to be around for, within a crossover that generally expands IPs in a measured pace, with exceptions being infrequent.

The only exception is Earthbound, and really only two names are even brought up anymore. Porky was brought up quite a bit, especially after he didn't get a Spirit in Ultimate. The other is Ninten, the protagonist of the first game, who is also occasionally brought up, although the community is divided over whether he should be an Echo of Ness or an entirely unique fighter.

 

[dream1ng]

The only exception is Earthbound, and really only two names are even brought up anymore. Porky was brought up quite a bit, especially after he didn't get a Spirit in Ultimate. The other is Ninten, the protagonist of the first game, who is also occasionally brought up, although the community is divided over whether he should be an Echo of Ness or an entirely unique fighter.

Porky was brought up mostly because people were reading too much into the spirit situation. Now that that doesn't really matter, you barely see him raised.

And Ninten is brought up as echo material, specifically when that's the purpose. And as every conversation about echoes goes, people argue that character should instead be unique. Divorced from that, seldom is Mother raised with serious expectation towards a new character.

 

[RileyXY1]

Porky was brought up mostly because people were reading too much into the spirit situation. Now that that doesn't really matter, you barely see him raised.

And Ninten is brought up as echo material, specifically when that's the purpose. And as every conversation about echoes goes, people argue that character should instead be unique. Divorced from that, seldom is Mother raised with serious expectation towards a new character.

Yeah. Porky was also brought up because people thought that the game would have a theme of Heroes vs. Villains solely based on the beginning of King K. Rool's reveal trailer. Now that and the whole Spirit situation ended up not being the case Porky's stock plummeted. Ninten is really the only new Mother rep who's even brought up anymore, and out of those series you listed Mother is the only one I can see getting a new rep, mostly due to how easy it would be to add Ninten to the game, even if he isn't an Echo Fighter.