Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[Borskaboska]

I can agree with All-Star being a tad overdone but I have to disagree with the second half. It's not just a fighting game thing after all, but a naming convention across multiple genres.

Having some sort of descriptor in the title isn't necessarily a bad thing. It helps to tell you what the game is about when you're going in with zero knowledge.

They're not the most creative names a lot of the time but what else would you call Mario Party or Mario Kart for example? Or to use your own example of Street Fighter, what's a good alternative? No matter what, you're going to allude to fighting somehow. World Warrior is the most appropriate alternative that comes to mind for me at least. That still doesn't pass your criteria though.

Neither does Tactics Ogre for that matter. Let Us Cling Together is the subtitle. Nor does it's series: Ogre Battle.

It's a tactical/strategy RPG with tactics in the name. Triangle Stategy has strategy in the name. Final Fantasy is a fantasy RPG with fantasy in the name.

I think you get the idea by now, but descriptors don't make a name bad, it's about how it's used and in some cases simply the perception of overuse due to repeated exposure.

I mean it's just a personal preference, I just think it's boring. I came to this conclusion when I heard Persona 5 Tactica and Warhammer Tacticus around the same time, i just thought "wow, people really can't come up with other names for tactics games?"

Is the Party game genre not named after Mario Party? I feel like before mario party came out, games like that would've just been called "board game simulator"

Triangle Strategy is actually a horrendous name. Like up there with the worst. There are parents naming there children after long dead war criminals, and Triangle Strategy is still a worse name. I MUCH prefer evocative gibberish names like "Octopath Traveler".

Final Fantasy isnt really what i'm talking about, game genre and setting genre aren't the same thing.

I'm fine with street fighter, and World Warrior would be OK too, mostly because those refer to the characters more than the game itself. Like, ryu is the guy who fights in the streets, he's the street fighter. It just works for me, maybe i just think its funny that its so on-the-nose generic. But a lot of fighting games have really bland names. Like Fighter's History and Art of Fighting.

I think titles should either provide a hook by alluding to some plot detail or create a tone to set the stage for the experience. Like, Super Smash Bros is a great name. For one, it's a play on super mario bros because it has platforming elements. Secondly, it uses a comparatively silly word like 'smash' instead of something serious like Fight or Combat, which makes it feel like its actually play fighting instead of an actual death match. It perfectly sets the tone of a silly game where you smash around your friends and the violence is just cartoon slapstick.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

For anyone who's interested, I did put up a video on my channel where I interviewed community lead, TO, and commentator Cherry about his experience with the series, what it's like being a TO and commentator, and more. The recording software did not like my mike haha

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

NASB1's getting its PM. Current patch is just bug fixes and restoration of certain earlier patch changes.

 

[Ze Diglett]

For a bit of fun, I challenged myself to think of the most contentious possible pick for a theoretical NASB3, and I've come to the conclusion that it'd have to be Mr. Hock-Tooey. He'd mean adding a "meme pick" (for a meme no one's gonna remember in a year), randomly prioritizing a side character (who only appears in a single flashback), AND snubbing Arnold again all in one character. That's like, the trifecta of NASB roster hate. Bonus points if they cut Gerald and Gertie, but re-add Helga somehow. Discourse would be unsalvageable, but it sure would be funny for about a week.

These are the things you think about when your game has no foreseeable future.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

For a bit of fun, I challenged myself to think of the most contentious possible pick for a theoretical NASB3, and I've come to the conclusion that it'd be Mr. Hock-Tooey. He'd mean adding a "meme pick" (for a meme no one's gonna remember in a year), randomly prioritizing a side character (who only appears in a single flashback), AND snubbing Arnold again all in one character. That's like, the trifecta of NASB roster hate. Bonus points if they cut Gerald and Gertie, but re-add Helga somehow. Discourse would be unsalvageable, but it sure would be funny for about a week.

These are the things you think about when your game has no foreseeable future.

All the kids will think it's a Hawk Tuah reference and that thought makes me want to punch a wall

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

For a bit of fun, I challenged myself to think of the most contentious possible pick for a theoretical NASB3, and I've come to the conclusion that it'd be Mr. Hock-Tooey. He'd mean adding a "meme pick" (for a meme no one's gonna remember in a year), randomly prioritizing a side character (who only appears in a single flashback), AND snubbing Arnold again all in one character. That's like, the trifecta of NASB roster hate. Bonus points if they cut Gerald and Gertie, but re-add Helga somehow. Discourse would be unsalvageable, but it sure would be funny for about a week.

These are the things you think about when your game has no foreseeable future.

And he's a gross-out joke too, so that's a quadfecta at that! Don't know how people with a low tolerance for fart jokes would end up becoming Nickelodeon devotees, but it seems to happen a lot somehow.

 

[Ze Diglett]

All the kids will think it's a Hawk Tuah reference and that thought makes me want to punch a wall

Well yeah, that's what I was getting at with the whole "meme pick" bit. The only reason I even know who this guy is is thanks to someone reposting the clip now that Hawk Tuah's the new Big Chungus.

 

[RileyXY1]

My idea for a new Hey Arnold character is actually Phoebe Heyerdahl.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Pretty surprising news: Nick al star Brawl is the 6th most downloaded eshop games of 2024 in Japan link. I'm guessing this is because the game is often in sales, but still very surprising.

 

[Borskaboska]

Pretty surprising news: Nick al star Brawl is the 6th most downloaded eshop games of 2024 in Japan link. I'm guessing this is because the game is often in sales, but still very surprising.

how popular is nick in general in japan? Fingers crossed that the continued sales of nasb could justify a 3rd game, even if 2 didnt reach expectations.

 

[Guynamednelson]

how popular is nick in general in japan?

Nick Japan shut down in 2008, and when it comes to Nicktoons they only mostly like SpongeBob and MLaaTR.

 

[RileyXY1]

Japan is a place where Nickelodeon barely even exists, so for it to be in the Top 10 best selling Eshop titles there is a massive deal.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I know way too much about Japanese perception of American cartoons, so here's some info - keep in mind I'm not Japanese and have never been to Japan, so I may be wrong on some things:

SpongeBob is popular, but mostly known as a Hello Kitty-style merchandising character first and cartoon character second; TMNT is very popular; MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings; Garfield is known as "an American thing" (I am ESPECIALLY unsure on this one); and Avatar is a non-entity and disliked by most who have seen it.

Anyway... iterativebros.... NASB1 will never be a memory.

 

[Ze Diglett]

MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings

This one in particular comes as a shock, though I guess I can see it being true in a Westaboo kind of way.

NASB having any sort of presence in Japan in the year of our lord 2024 is kinda baffling. Basically no one seems to remember it only a year out from its last installment in the West, so I gotta wonder what Japan's doing to keep the name alive.

 

[Opossum]

I know way too much about Japanese perception of American cartoons, so here's some info - keep in mind I'm not Japanese and have never been to Japan, so I may be wrong on some things:

SpongeBob is popular, but mostly known as a Hello Kitty-style merchandising character first and cartoon character second; TMNT is very popular; MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings; Garfield is known as "an American thing" (I am ESPECIALLY unsure on this one); and Avatar is a non-entity and disliked by most who have seen it.

Anyway... iterativebros.... NASB1 will never be a memory.

Anecdotal as well, but I think the best Garfield comparison might be like how Doraemon is in the west? Just based on what I've seen, anyway.

Where the character is sort of vaguely known as "oh that's (an American/a Japanese) character" but not usually anything more than that, but you occasionally see people who know a bit more about it. But mostly they're still exclusive to like, merchandising in storefronts.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

This one in particular comes as a shock, though I guess I can see it being true in a Westaboo kind of way.

Despite what certain subsectors of anime fandom would have you believe, gross-out humour and "ugly" character designs are - to my knowledge - quite popular in Japan - a lot of Akira Toriyama's early works featured constant poop references, and Shin Chan had a lot of vulgar elements even before the adult gag dub - so it makes sense R&S would translate. There are characters in Shaman King that are literally just Ren & Stimpy - these aren't background characters like the Nostalgia Critic/AVGN anime characters that resurface every now and then, they're talking characters with personalities.

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[Borskaboska]

I know way too much about Japanese perception of American cartoons, so here's some info - keep in mind I'm not Japanese and have never been to Japan, so I may be wrong on some things:

SpongeBob is popular, but mostly known as a Hello Kitty-style merchandising character first and cartoon character second; TMNT is very popular; MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings; Garfield is known as "an American thing" (I am ESPECIALLY unsure on this one); and Avatar is a non-entity and disliked by most who have seen it.

Anyway... iterativebros.... NASB1 will never be a memory.

im surprised avatar wouldnt be popular. any particular reason why?

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

im surprised avatar wouldnt be popular. any particular reason why?

I'm not Japanese, and not all too familiar with either Avatar show, so take this with a grain of salt, but I've heard it attributed to a sort of cultural uncanny valley, the characters have Asian customs on a mostly-superficial level, but act essentially as Americans would - unlike a Disney movie where everyone is basically just American for all extents and purposes but happens to live in a foreign country.

 

[fogbadge]

I'm not Japanese, and not all too familiar with either Avatar show, so take this with a grain of salt, but I've heard it attributed to a sort of cultural uncanny valley, the characters have Asian customs on a mostly-superficial level, but act essentially as Americans would - unlike a Disney movie where everyone is basically just American for all extents and purposes but happens to live in a foreign country.

that makes a kind of sense. I knew a woman from Belgian who described the character Hercule Poirot as a very British Belgian.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Character modding for NASB2 has been figured out.

Cherry 🔜 Frosty Faustings (@cherrynasb.com)

Markaccino a talented modder for #nasb2 has cracked custom character modding. KRATOS ENTERS THE BATTLE! #platsky

bsky.app

 

[Donaldtoon]

Roster prediction for the third game

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

View attachment 397515Roster prediction for the third game

TBH this would be really disappointing. Lincoln's back, only one 90s show gets new reps, all 4 TMNT instead of Shredder/Rocksteady/a new villain, 52 characters... Ugh.