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I really think people should be considering Mr. Game and Watch and Pikachu to go somewhere inside top tier.
Toon Link...I'm not so sure about him any more. I used to think he was the best character in the game, but I realise that a lot of his best KO moves (Fsmash particularly) don't have as much range or speed as you'd hope, and many of them are unsafe on block. In fact, a lot of his moves are suprisingly unsafe on block I find. I'd still say he's in the top tier, but Mr. Game and Watch should certainly be higher due to his insane...everything.
People really seem to be underestimating Pikachu. If you think aobut it, what weaknesses does Pikachu really have? He has plenty of range and priority on his attacks, even the non-disjointed ones. He has very little lag on just about everyhing, including thunder, which is just a nasty, nasty KO move now against everyone but those with reflectors. He has plenty of ways to close in on campers (Quack, crawling, etc.) and has a projectile of his own which can get very annoying. Oh yes, and he's frikkin' POWERFUL too.
I could say the same for Mr. Game and Watch on most accounts. His only weakness is that he's light. Besides that, he has excellent hitboxes, great approaches, great shield pressure, great power, a great deterrant against energy projectiles...which accounts for some of the most commonly spammed attacks from popular characters, ie lasers, Palutena arrows, PK Fires.
You'll also find most Lucas players being very modest about their character and placing him in mid or high tiers. Since the top tier list can't be too big or else that'd be redundant, Lucas should defintely be near the top of high for many of the same reasons Mr Game and Watch and Pikachu are good. He's very fast, very tricky, has loads and loads of options and advanced techniques to play with, awesome recovery, super powerful smash attacks, even the fast ones, and he has not one, but TWO ways to deal with incoming projectiles of any kind, as well as a pseudo-pillar that eats away at shields. He also has landing Nair combos, and one of the most lethal edge guarding projectiles in the game. And up smash, which is pretty much like detonating an Ike Fsmash all around your character, one that hits twice and is very hard to air dodge while coming down. He also has priority and disjointed hitboxes...lol, as if the rest wasn't enough. And as of now, frame data suggests that his jab combo's initial hitbox comes out on FRAME 1. Shine plz?
Toon Link...I'm not so sure about him any more. I used to think he was the best character in the game, but I realise that a lot of his best KO moves (Fsmash particularly) don't have as much range or speed as you'd hope, and many of them are unsafe on block. In fact, a lot of his moves are suprisingly unsafe on block I find. I'd still say he's in the top tier, but Mr. Game and Watch should certainly be higher due to his insane...everything.
People really seem to be underestimating Pikachu. If you think aobut it, what weaknesses does Pikachu really have? He has plenty of range and priority on his attacks, even the non-disjointed ones. He has very little lag on just about everyhing, including thunder, which is just a nasty, nasty KO move now against everyone but those with reflectors. He has plenty of ways to close in on campers (Quack, crawling, etc.) and has a projectile of his own which can get very annoying. Oh yes, and he's frikkin' POWERFUL too.
I could say the same for Mr. Game and Watch on most accounts. His only weakness is that he's light. Besides that, he has excellent hitboxes, great approaches, great shield pressure, great power, a great deterrant against energy projectiles...which accounts for some of the most commonly spammed attacks from popular characters, ie lasers, Palutena arrows, PK Fires.
You'll also find most Lucas players being very modest about their character and placing him in mid or high tiers. Since the top tier list can't be too big or else that'd be redundant, Lucas should defintely be near the top of high for many of the same reasons Mr Game and Watch and Pikachu are good. He's very fast, very tricky, has loads and loads of options and advanced techniques to play with, awesome recovery, super powerful smash attacks, even the fast ones, and he has not one, but TWO ways to deal with incoming projectiles of any kind, as well as a pseudo-pillar that eats away at shields. He also has landing Nair combos, and one of the most lethal edge guarding projectiles in the game. And up smash, which is pretty much like detonating an Ike Fsmash all around your character, one that hits twice and is very hard to air dodge while coming down. He also has priority and disjointed hitboxes...lol, as if the rest wasn't enough. And as of now, frame data suggests that his jab combo's initial hitbox comes out on FRAME 1. Shine plz?
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Most characters have a slight advantage against him, while he doesn't really have much advantage over anyone. At best he goes even against some characters. So how can a character with no notably good match-ups possibly be high tier? And you know something is wrong when Bowser mains even disagree with him being anywhere near high tier. Why do you think he's so good when he clearly doesn't have many good match-ups?
