Um, yoshi sucks. Sorry all you yoshi lovers, but a seriously competitive yoshi player will never never ever beat a seriously dedicated marth, fox, gannondorf, samus...etc. I have yet to see yoshi in any of those tournament level matches and yoshi being a candidate. Characters like yoshi need some serious work. I have played with him, and i tried, but he's "better" moves are seriously weak, because all these moves everyone's listing on here (egg toss, huge second jump) are definately cons. His egg toss is a waste of time and death wish from you to me if you use it. And his second jump will only keep him alive so long vs. my gannondorf's meteor smash. I hope they do make yoshi a more "playable" character, if you will, because i hated how some characters were just clearly worse then the others. See, i use bowser too, but i don't think he needs that much improvment..seriously. If they make him faster with faster recovery in brawl...well, there'd be a serious chance of me making him my main then. Characters like ness got the can, because, he's only "sooo" good, he can't reach tournament level play. I guess on that note, i'm glad ice climbers and game and watch and young link are totally gone from brawl. They were weak too, but rightfully so, they were paper in the wind vs. a master.