I liked it. It was fun. I liked exploring. That was fun too. Catching Pokemon was also fun, and I liked training Pokemon. Music was nice and everything, and I liked the graphics.
I thought it was a fun game.
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I thought it was a fun game.
Helsong
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I think my favorite "oooh a mystery" moment in Pokemon was when I found the friggin braille walls in Gen 3. That deepsea cave was weird as heck, and I didn't know something like that existed in the game. I ended up looking up a braille chart online, and went on to catch the Regi trio without using a guide, just piecing together what I needed to do. Felt cool, actually, finding out what the hell those weird rock mountain things were in all the routes. Looking back on it, it's one of the reasons I loved Gen3 so much.
The first cool moment I had was Ruins of Alph in Gen 2, though. Solve the sliding block puzzle, fall through the floor, and...wait, where is everyone? And why are there suddenly encounters here? And what the **** are these things? Incredibly spooky for a little kid.
The first cool moment I had was Ruins of Alph in Gen 2, though. Solve the sliding block puzzle, fall through the floor, and...wait, where is everyone? And why are there suddenly encounters here? And what the **** are these things? Incredibly spooky for a little kid.
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Binary Clone
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I mean it's only a problem if you've played past games.
But the new ones just haven't brought anything of substance to the table. It's just the same game. The exploration doesn't pay off as much as it has in the past, routes are more linear and there are fewer really rewarding puzzles or secrets, meaning there's less of that exploration in the first place.
It's fine for a Pokemon game. The problem is that it's like the sixth generation and barely does anything new. It's just stale by now.
Helsong
Smash Ace
I think my lessening enjoyment of Pokemon is a combination of it being iterative, and a result of me just kinda growing up. I really got into Gen 2 and Gen 3 because I was younger and the idea of going on an adventure just captured me right off the bat. New Pokemon, new region, new routes, new secrets, etc. I don't know if the actual quality of the puzzles and exploration has degraded at all compared to older generations(because nostalgia is a *****), but the games certainly don't capture me like they used to. I don't get the thrill of adventure from them anymore, even if the actual combat and gameplay is still largely solid, and I think this might just be a result of not being an overly imaginative kid anymore.
When I really think about it, what made me fall in love with Pokemon wasn't the whole mon-collecting thing, it was the adventure that happened to involve the mon-collecting. And the adventure lost it's charm after a while. I mean, it's suuuper obvious in retrospect, but I didn't think about that at the time.
When I really think about it, what made me fall in love with Pokemon wasn't the whole mon-collecting thing, it was the adventure that happened to involve the mon-collecting. And the adventure lost it's charm after a while. I mean, it's suuuper obvious in retrospect, but I didn't think about that at the time.
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Lizalfos
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I'll make you a game about being an adult and how ****ty it is. It should be really compelling to you since you are growing up.
Helsong
Smash Ace
I mean, we've had a bunch of AAA games with protagonists acting as father figures, so it's kinda already happening.
Gimme a game where I can be a beleagured TA and just crush simpering undergrads with criticisms and terrible grades. And then feed off of their despair and crushed dreams.
I'll play it once, nod at all the inside jokes and pretentious theming that'll no doubt get thrown in, then just boot up Hotline Miami so that I can descend into an electronica fueled orgy of violence, heart-pounding action, and zany colors.
Gimme a game where I can be a beleagured TA and just crush simpering undergrads with criticisms and terrible grades. And then feed off of their despair and crushed dreams.
I'll play it once, nod at all the inside jokes and pretentious theming that'll no doubt get thrown in, then just boot up Hotline Miami so that I can descend into an electronica fueled orgy of violence, heart-pounding action, and zany colors.
good evening, thread
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Vashimus
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I kind of find it funny Nintendo likes to innovate on the hardware front, but play more conservatively when it comes to their best franchises. The regular Pokemon campaigns are great and all, but I will agree it's been gotten stale for a long while now, and feels more like going through the motions now. Gen 3 making the box legendaries central to the game's plot with the evil team trying to harness their power was pretty novel at the time, but now it's just been overdone to hilarious extremes.
I really liked how Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD shook things up during a time when the Pokémon craze first starting dying down. It wasn't about collecting 8 gym badges and beating the Pokemon League, but actually taking part in a full-fledged adventure. Game Freak didn't develop those games and they're pretty adamant with keeping the Pokemon series on the handhelds for obvious reasons, and while they certainly had their flaws, I and many others genuinely enjoyed these games for bringing something different, and it's a shame they never really did anything like them again after the Gamecube era. Maybe it seemed too alienating for their core audience of young children? I don't know.
I really liked how Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD shook things up during a time when the Pokémon craze first starting dying down. It wasn't about collecting 8 gym badges and beating the Pokemon League, but actually taking part in a full-fledged adventure. Game Freak didn't develop those games and they're pretty adamant with keeping the Pokemon series on the handhelds for obvious reasons, and while they certainly had their flaws, I and many others genuinely enjoyed these games for bringing something different, and it's a shame they never really did anything like them again after the Gamecube era. Maybe it seemed too alienating for their core audience of young children? I don't know.
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no instruction manual included at all?
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At this point, playing each Pokemon game has become more of a chore than anything else. It's like how I went to see Episode 7, it's something I have to do. If it happens to be a great experience, that's just incidental.
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standardtoaster
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I installed everything in the new comp. I don't have an Ethernet connection for some reason though. No missing cables or connections AFAIK. Using an asus z97-a atx lga 1150 motherboard
Helsong
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Network adapter drivers installed?
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Kurri I caught you red handed!
i dunno, she looks pretty surprised herself there. consent might not have occurred.
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She is blushing!
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kendrick lamar is gonna help me win this melee tournament tomorrow
i don't give a **** about hamlin or wobbles, you can't beat kendrick
i don't give a **** about hamlin or wobbles, you can't beat kendrick
standardtoaster
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i completely forgot that's a thing. just did that and it's working now
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Vashimus
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Cancerous cacophony in the pages and pages of stupid arguments Project M has endured over the years.
****, I ruined it.
****, I ruined it.
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wait I just realized, since you can now pokebank from a gen 1 game:
get a machamp with fissure from gen 1
transfer it to a newer game
give it an ability capsule
no guard fissure machamp is a thing. no guard fissure machamp is a thing
get a machamp with fissure from gen 1
transfer it to a newer game
give it an ability capsule
no guard fissure machamp is a thing. no guard fissure machamp is a thing
PMS | Tink-er
fie on thee
i clicked like on your post because of C.C before clicking the link.
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W E E B
Binary Clone
Easy Money since 1994
Dude I ****ing learned to read playing Pokemon.
I just agree with
Vashimus
in that Pokemon functions too conservatively. A lot of the coolest stuff has just been the spin-offs recently, like Mystery Dungeon and Coliseum, while the main games have stagnated and staled themselves out pretty badly.It's just kind of become "churn out a couple hundred new pokemon, slap a new map on it, and have Team Evil try to catch Legendary #38 on a mountain but oh no they were foiled and you can try to catch it now good job beat the elite four and then **** around a bit before realizing that catching them all is no longer a realistically attainable goal and there's not really any other endgame content"
Helsong
Smash Ace
Why are you trying to argue with a snarky one-liner with little to no actual argument behind it? It's an argumentative dead end. It's like arguing politics and ideologies on facebook or reddit or twitter. Run awwwaaaayyy.
Binary Clone
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Binary Clone
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u a middle aged neckbeard, ye scurblord
enough bout this dramaboi
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Smooth Criminal
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I like the newer games just fine, tbh (still think DexNav from ORAS is one of the best additions to the franchise ever). But, even after all these years and all the quality of life improvements, Pokémon is still pretty damn formulaic.
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Bleck
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Saito
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??? I've played every generation lol. Kind of presumptuous to assume that to be honest.
You can literally say that about every franchise ever though, including Smash, Zelda, Mario, Dark Souls, etc. That doesn't inherently make them bad games.
Pokemon gets a lot of flak, but it's hard to perfect what was already a very polished idea right from the get-go since 1996.
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Saito
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If that's the case with pokemon then you've got to draw your playerbase in with it's other features that pokemon games have.
Despite the formula staying the same, the best pokemon games have been the ones that included a lot of content to do after the main game is finished.
Gold / Silver
Emerald
Platnium / HG/SS
Black 2 / White 2
The formula is pretty much going to stay the same but lately we've been seeing games that keep giving us less content than the previous games which isn't a good thing for a series that has a tried and true formula.
Do you wonder why most people harp on X and Y being a bad game? The difficulty overall is lowered compared to other games which makes for a no stress and quick to blow through main story. This is okay because the main game isn't really that big of a deal for most people who are veterans anyway. So they look to the endgame challenges.
All we got was the battle tower essentially in the form of the battle mason. It does nothing to really spruce up the gameplay and strategies like the battle frontier, nor was as interesting as a tournament styled set of matches filled with past trainers like the PWT.
X and Y was filled to the brim with tons of content that wasn't battle related, but in the end pokemon is about battling. Without appealing battling content, it's harder to stay interested in the game.
This rings true for ORAS as well because while it was a remake of an older game, so was HGSS (Which touched on the original games, and brought a ton of content) but ORAS managed to bring even LESS content to the table than X and Y. I mean you could compare secret bases, but with that you lose character customization, PR videos, skates (and the tricks associated with them), Gym leader rematches (The battle villa in X and Y had those. Emerald also had those) , and we didn't even get the battle frontier. We got the delta episode which was a nice little after portion along with access to most of the legendaries which was cool. But after the delta episode and you capture the legendaries, you're essentially still in X and Y as far as what you can do.
Tutor moves have been added but those take BP which goes back to a lack of interesting content that actually rewards those.
Having contests back was nice though because **** pokemon musicals.
In my honest opinion X and Y was a better game than ORAS.
Despite the formula staying the same, the best pokemon games have been the ones that included a lot of content to do after the main game is finished.
Gold / Silver
Emerald
Platnium / HG/SS
Black 2 / White 2
The formula is pretty much going to stay the same but lately we've been seeing games that keep giving us less content than the previous games which isn't a good thing for a series that has a tried and true formula.
Do you wonder why most people harp on X and Y being a bad game? The difficulty overall is lowered compared to other games which makes for a no stress and quick to blow through main story. This is okay because the main game isn't really that big of a deal for most people who are veterans anyway. So they look to the endgame challenges.
All we got was the battle tower essentially in the form of the battle mason. It does nothing to really spruce up the gameplay and strategies like the battle frontier, nor was as interesting as a tournament styled set of matches filled with past trainers like the PWT.
X and Y was filled to the brim with tons of content that wasn't battle related, but in the end pokemon is about battling. Without appealing battling content, it's harder to stay interested in the game.
This rings true for ORAS as well because while it was a remake of an older game, so was HGSS (Which touched on the original games, and brought a ton of content) but ORAS managed to bring even LESS content to the table than X and Y. I mean you could compare secret bases, but with that you lose character customization, PR videos, skates (and the tricks associated with them), Gym leader rematches (The battle villa in X and Y had those. Emerald also had those) , and we didn't even get the battle frontier. We got the delta episode which was a nice little after portion along with access to most of the legendaries which was cool. But after the delta episode and you capture the legendaries, you're essentially still in X and Y as far as what you can do.
Tutor moves have been added but those take BP which goes back to a lack of interesting content that actually rewards those.
Having contests back was nice though because **** pokemon musicals.
In my honest opinion X and Y was a better game than ORAS.
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Off to a tournament, let's see how many of those still exist when I get back
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To be perfectly honest, I didn't even know that there is a majority that harps on X and Y for being a bad game.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
There is, and it's for the exact same reasons that
Saito
went on about.Still, I'm kind of in your camp. I liked X/Y and ORAS quite a bit despite all of that. Pokémon does what it does and does it well even after all these years of staid-ness.
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Bleck
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check, 1 2 3
that's because there's not
the series remains popular and profitable because it doesn't pander directly to moron twenty-something Gamers™ that are incapable of understanding that they are not the center of the universe
Helsong
Smash Ace
Heaven forbid people share opinions about games!