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Rate Their Chances MultiVersus Edition: Day 152 - Shang Tsung (Mortal Kombat) and Jay Gatsby (The Great Gatsby)

Do you want me to start locking in the top 14 instead of top 7?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 77.8%
  • No

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .

Sari

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The Grinch

Chance: Abstain
I'm not familiar with all of the legal background stuff with the Grinch so I'll abstain here.

Want: 100%
Both the Chuck Jones and Jim Carrey Grinch films are some of my favorite holiday movies while the Grinch himself is a very humorous character. Me and my brother would often pretend the Grinch was in Smash by playing as Wario on a custom Grinch mountain stage back in the Brawl days. Seeing him in a platform fighter would be a blast to have and would be even funnier considering the whole situation of the Grinch leak.

For which version they'd go with, I'd hope that they use the Jim Carrey version as it's one of my favorite holiday films and the one that would be the most hilarious to use. Chuck Jones version would be the next best thing with the Illumination one following far behind.

Nominations:
Numbuh 1 x5
 

DanganZilla5

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"Dastardly" Richard
Chance: 74.29%
Want: 82%

Noms List

100+

75-99

50-74
Eustace Bagge x60
Quan-Chi x59
Ed, Edd n Eddy x55
The Protagonist (Tenet) x50

25-49
Numbuh 1 x45
K.O x40
Concept: Characters with no strong Warner Bros connection x39
Zatanna x35
Agent Smith x35
Dio Brando x35
John Constantine x30
Doomsday x30
The Impractical Jokers x30
Pim and Charlie x30
Top Cat x30
Rebecca Bunch x30
Fred Flintstone x25

1-24
Harry Potter x20
Maxwell x19
Audrey II x17
Peanuts content x17
Rick Sanchez 15
Spike (Gremlins) x15
All Elite Wrestling rep x13
Citizen Kane x11
Jackie Chan x11
John Stewart x10
Rosie The Robot x10
The Gilmore Girls (as a duo) x9
Snow Miser x7
**** Grayson x6
Neo x5
Static x5
Osmosis Jones x5
Lion-O x5
Powerpuff Girls x5
Dexter x5
John J. Sheridan x4
Six Flags content x2
Shana x2
Kuroyukihime x2
Jarro x1
Godzooky x1
 

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The jerk that made that fake Smash leak
Chance: Abstain
Want: 55%
I'll be honest here, I don't want Grinch in so I can play as him or anything. I just Want him in so I can beat the crap out of him. I will have my revenge.
Noms: Rick Sanchez x5
 

GoodGrief741

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Grinch

Chance: 10%
I'm not seeing it.

The Grinch is, of course, the iconic Dr. Seuss character that tries to steal Christmas before learning what it's truly all about. Uh, spoilers I guess. He originated as a children's book but became famous through an animated special by the legendary Chuck Jones. Further incarnations of him include a live-action movie in which he's played by Jim Carrey and an animated theatrical film in which Benedict Cumberbatch plays the green grouch.

Now, WB has a complicated history with Mr. Grinch. They didn't make the original special, that was MGM. However, through Turner's purchase of part of MGM's library, they now own it. Yet, the special, to my knowledge, airs on ABC, which is a Disney-owned network. And after that, both movies were made by Universal. So Warner never made anything related to the Grinch. They have no relationship to the IP other than the fact that they license out an old short to someone else. I hardly see a franchise that WB has much of a stake in.

I saw the article about the deal with the Seuss estate. Let's leave aside the lack of information on Seuss' widow's stance on videogame crossovers, or even if the deal covers videogames at all. There's no Grinch in there. Cat in the Cat, Oh the Places You'll Go, all that stuff but no Grinch. Now that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't get the rights to the Grinch (though it's worth pointing out that Netflix recently ran a Green Eggs and Ham show, so the rights are definitely split). The lack of plans mean that either WB isn't interested, or they feel like the 2018 movie is too recent. Whatever the reason, it leaves Grinch as something that Warner has no vested interest in.

Want: 66%
Depends on the Grinch. Old school Grinch yes. Jim Carrey Grinch heck yeah. Illumination Grinch never. Either way they're never getting Carrey or Benny C for this and Karloff is dead so that takes away a lot of the excitement.

Noms: I'd say Tenet man is safe for now so let's start with the next one

Lola Bunny x10
 

DanganZilla5

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Day over.

Rate Concept: Mucha Lucha rep.

Some videos to get into the wrestling mood:
 
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Chance - 10%
It's a cartoon that ran for a couple years in the early 2000s, but it ended in 2005. It did rerun for a good while after that, but apparently even that stopped in 2010. I hadn't heard it mentioned in years. I don't have any really gadge on how popular this show was, but between the classic legacy shows and the modern promotional picks, I can't see this one being particularly high on their list. I guess I could see them wanting to include a Mexican representative to appeal to that audience, but I feel they're far more likely to go with a character like the Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle, who has a movie coming out. Only way I see this happening if someone on the dev team pushes for it to get a character.

Want - 20%
I did watch this show but I honestly don't remember much about it other than the basic premise. I do like luchador/grappler characters in fighting games so honestly I could see a character from this having a pretty fun moveset.

Noms to Spike and Gizmo.
 
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CureParfait

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Mucha Lucha rep

Chance- 50%
It's in weird spot where it is niche yet have some traction in some areas yet super popular in some areas. I think they have a decent shot if they want to appeal to an international audience. If Multiversus is doing a legacy thing like Smash then it may have a decent shot being the first flash animated series.

Want- 95%
Ever since hearing Mucha Lucha was supposed to have a fighting game I did want to see a character from there in a fighting game. It's 95% want instead of 100 due to there are some Mucha Lucha characters I wouldn't want to see making it.

Noms-
Dio Brando x5
 

GoodGrief741

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Mu-cha Lu-cha, Mu-cha Lucha

Abstain on chance. I simply don't know how popular it was worldwide. Anecdotally, in my country it was huge, everybody had a favorite in Mucha Lucha and the dubbed voices were super fun to imitate so yeah.

Want: 100%
Like I said, pretty beloved. It would be pretty surprising to see this show referenced at all so a fighter would make it even sweeter. We'd probably get Ricochet or maybe the Flea but I'd take literally anyone.

Noms go to The Protagonist (Tenet)
 

KillerCage

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HONOR!
FAMILY!
DONUTS!
IT'S MUCHA LUCHA!

Abstaining on the chance score of this one. I would have given a rating had we been given a particular character from this show. The best options would have been Rikochet, Buena Girl, and The Flea. Even if we had any of these three to rate, I still would have given them a low score. No one talks about Mucha Lucha nowadays and it's very niche. It just faces too much competition to really be considered for a spot in the MultiVerses roster.

Want- 70%

I don't know about the rest of you, but I grew up with Mucha Lucha. This show is about masked kids going to school to become professional masked wrestlers in the sport of lucha libre. We don't yet have a masked wrestler in MultiVerses' roster so they can fill in a niche. It would be cool if those kids made it into MultiVerses even if they aren't part the roster.

My Noms: Agent Smith (Matrix) x10
 
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DanganZilla5

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Boy who rolls into people like a bowling ball teams up with (good) girl and a flea impersonator

Chance: 5%

Yeah I'm not sold on this. Mucha Lucha's most notable aspects are that it's the first animated kids show to be created with Flash and was successful enough for a movie. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine a timeline where this show gets picked out of all of Warner Bros' shows. There simply isn't enough for it to stand out a lot from the crowd. Now GoodGrief did say that the show was big in his country so it might be more popular in certain regions of the world than I thought and if so then I'll give it that. But for the most part I am skeptical.

Want: 1%

I gave this a pity score since I think that opening song is catchy and I would love for it to be included on the stage, plus with the characters being wrestlers I think I'd dig the moveset if Incineroar is anything to go by. But otherwise I did not care for Mucha Lucha. I don't like the animation and I only watched it when there was nothing better to watch on TV. I'm glad several of you seem to have fond memories with Mucha Lucha and that's great. Your enthusiasm made me see the show in a better light. But even then, this is just simply a pick I can't get excited for.

Noms:
Numbuh 1 x5
Fred Flintstone x5

Calcs will come probably tomorrow night.
 
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amageish

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Concept: Mucha Lucha Representative

Chance: I have been trying to avoid doing the thing I did a lot in the old RTC where I did a write-up and technically abstained on giving scores... but, uh, yeah, I am doing that for this one!

The usual questions apply here: Who is the game for? Youths or nostalgic adults? How much will they care about covering different eras? How much do they care about historical importance? And, new-ish to this one, how much do they care about regional success/failures? And for that... I do not know. I just plain don't know...

Want: I am also a little bit too young to have a serious opinion on this one, sadly. El Tigre is the flash-animation action cartoon with some vibes inspired by luchadores of my childhood...

Noms: Rebecca Bunch - x5
 

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The Grinch
Chance: 35.56%
Want: 74.60%

Noms List

100+

75-99

50-74
Ed, Edd n Eddy x65
Quan-Chi x64
Eustace Bagge x60
The Protagonist (Tenet) x50
Numbuh 1 x50

25-49
Agent Smith x45
K.O x40
Dio Brando x40
Top Cat x40
Concept: Characters with no strong Warner Bros connection x39
Zatanna x35
Rebecca Bunch 35
John Constantine x30
Doomsday x30
The Impractical Jokers x30
Pim and Charlie x30
Fred Flintstone x25

1-24
Maxwell x24
Peanuts content x22
Harry Potter x20
Rick Sanchez x20
Spike (Gremlins) x18
Audrey II x17
All Elite Wrestling rep x13
Citizen Kane x11
Jackie Chan x11
John Stewart x10
Rosie The Robot x10
Lola Bunny x10
The Gilmore Girls (as a duo) x9
Snow Miser x7
**** Grayson x6
Neo x5
Static x5
Osmosis Jones x5
Lion-O x5
Powerpuff Girls x5
Dexter x5
John J. Sheridan x4
Six Flags content x2
Shana x2
Kuroyukihime x2
Gizmo x2
Jarro x1
Godzooky x1


_________________________________

Day over.

Today we are rating two characters: Michael J. Caboose from Red vs Blue and Willy Wonka.

Some clips to get into the mood for Halo but with a twist!

And here are some clips to get into the candy mood:

So here's the gist for double days: The rules are the same. You still need 4 sentences for each character for your scores and noms to be counted. You are free to rate one character and abstain on the other. But this means that if you rate both characters, you get 10 noms. And yes, if you give each character 10 sentences for a total of 20 sentences total in your post, you get a whopping 20 noms. And considering this is the last day of this schedule, that could turn the tide for many characters.
 
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Caboose

Chance - 10%
While it is true that Warner own Rooster Teeth and thus own this franchise, there's one glaring issue, and that is that almost all the major characters in this series are just recoloured Spartans from the Halo series. Which is an IP that Warner do not own. Now the team have mentioned that this game could very well go outside of the WB world in the future, but I still feel iffy on this. Microsoft have shown to ne open to working with Rooster Teeth for Red Vs Blue related content, they did a skit for Master Chief coming to Fortnite at the Game Awards a year or two ago and the fact they allow the series to go on kind of proves that they're okay with it. But I don't know if see WB going to the trouble to use designs from a series they don't own. We don't really know how much WB is going splash out on this game. Would they really see the need in getting funny blue Halo man, especially when Rooster Teeth has a popular IP with characters that they do own in the form of RWBY?


Want - Abstain
I've seen bits of the show but it's not really for me. I'm sure it's a good show and people seem to enjoy it, so i'd be happy for them if he or another character from the show got in. It's just not something I'm personally super interested in.

Wonka
Chance - 50%
Willy Wonka is an odd one as I'm not quite sure where he, or the Roald Dahl universe in general, sit rights wise. WB did put out the Nightmare fuel filed Tim Burton remake, they are putting out the upcoming Timothée Chalamet led prequel, because of course that's a thing, they even did a Tom and Jerry crossover film for crying out loud. They clearly have their grubby little hands all over this franchise. But I don't quite know if they own it outright. The TV and Film rights to Dahl's work where recently purchased by Netflix for a large sum of money, so how that all works out and where gaming fits into that I simply do not know. But rights stuff aside, is Willy really the kind of character they'd want to include? He has no shortage of memes, which is clearly something that the devs are tapped into. But would they really see him as a fighting game character, and would they feel right having him fight Batman and Steven Universe? It's not impossible, and there is a new film to promote.

Want - 80%

It all comes down to which version they choose. I don't wanna play as Johnny Depp doing a Micheal Jackson impression for some reason Wonka, nor do I really wanna play as young pretty boy twink Wonka, though the creative team involved gives me some hope for that film. No no. It's gotta be Gene all the way. They could do an actualy pretty creative moveset for the mad chocolater. Imagine throwing gobstoppers to trip your foe, or shooting upwards in the glass elevator, or summoning a horde of Oompa Loompas. And a stage set in the titular chocolate factory could be really fun with all the traps.

Noms to Pim and Charlie.
 
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amageish

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Michael J. Caboose

Chance: 5%. Okay, discussing this character's chances is going to be a bit of a walk. Red vs. Blue is an IP directly based on and animated using assets from the Halo franchise. So, while RoosterTeeth is owned by Warner Bros and therefore Red vs Blue is a Warner Bros IP, I'm unsure if you could add Caboose into Multiversus without Microsoft being involved. The webshow Red vs Blue is clearly fair use as a parody, but would Red vs Blue content in Multiversus have the same distinction? My impulse is no, but I'm also not an IP lawyer... but, either way, I don't know if it'd be worth the risk to Warner Bros to find out!

So, yeah, I think Red vs Blue isn't going to happen... at least not on its own.

Let's go back to the central question that has prevailed over most of my write-ups: What is this game trying to do?

The game is clearly designed to show off Warner Bros IPs fighting each other, but the developers seem keen to clarify that they aren't feeling beholden to stick with that branding. It could expand to other IPs... and therefore... I think there is a possibility that this game is going to turn into a Platform Fighter Fortnite. I don't know if I want Platform Fighter Fortnite, but it doesn't seem impossible to be that Multiversus will use Warner Bros IPs as a jumping off point to show off every crossover they can get... And Halo is a giant IP with a big fanbase...

That said, this conversation is still silly. It's not like Halo does fighting game crossovers!


Oh. Right.

Well... It's not like there's known demand for Halo content in a platform fighter!

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Oh. Right.

But still... It's not like Red vs Blue would be used to market any other high-profile Halo crossover!


Oh. Right.

And so, here's my hot take: Red vs Blue would probably get content in Multiversus if Halo gets any content. If they call up the big M and get some stuff in the game, then I think they'd use their powers of brand synergy to work together and put in some RvB stuff. It allows Warner to be hip and with the times with some web show content as well...



Plus, Shaggy's Uncle Shagworthy alternate costume shows that characters can get alts that turns one character into a completely different character.

Now, obviously this is speculation on top of speculation on top of speculation - I am giving a low rating for a reason. The Halo TV show being a Paramount+ Series is also not a great sign, but... I think there's a scenario where the stars align for this to happen. It's not probable, but it does strike me as technically possible.

Want: Abstain. I am not deeply attached to either of the IPs involved personally. Still, it makes for an interesting thought experiment...

Willy Wonka

Chance: 70%. Well, the Dahl Estate doesn't seem super into putting their IPs into video games in general. I guess it makes some sense - after all, the (god-awful) Warner Bros remake made Mike Teavee into a character suffering from video game addiction. That said, we do know that they're willing to work with shows every once in a while when it is a good collaboration for them...


So... I do think it is plausible! Wonka is coming out soon-ish and that's sure to be a big movie for Warner Bros. Wonka's constant stream of remakes makes him fit into the "multi-generational nostalgia" vibe that a lot of the known cast already fits into. He's iconic and he's a bit of a meme. His factory is objectively dangerous and therefore certain would provide enough sugar-coated goodness to make a moveset out of. He has dozens of adaptations for various costumes options. If all the rights holders sign off on it, then this feels like a pretty safe bet!

Want: Abstain. Willy Wonka is another character who has had so many adaptations that I do not have a particular opinion on him. The Gene Wilder movie is a classic. The book is an interesting story. Then you get the Depp movie which is both tonally and graphically a little bit of a mess... And, of course, there's the 2013 musical adaptation which reads like a Facebook post about how "Back in my day, kids didn't have mental health struggles; we walked to school uphill both ways, barefoot in the show" - like, seriously, they explicitly say Mike Teavee has a disability and then treat his struggles as a personal moral failing, which is just... super gross.

Noms: Rebecca Bunch x... 20, I guess?
 

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Chance: 15%

Red vs Blue is probably the longest running machinima series at this point so it has a lot of seniority in a space that's still relatively young amongst all the books, comics, anime, cartoons, tv shows and films which you'd think would give it a leg up. But the machinima field is a weird one, they're typically a fan series created using the IP of someone else, in this instance they're using Halo to make a series about two teams of idiots stuck in opposite ends of a box canyon (and boy does it go on a trip from there).

The core of this is WB would have to go to Microsoft for the assets because Caboose is made from just being a blue multiplayer Spartan. Would they? Maybe, but RvB probably isn't very high on their priority list, even among Rooster Teeth properties you're more likely to see RWBY get all of the titular characters, the second major team, some of the antagonists and two major side characters before they'd consider RvB if only because they probably don't want to have to go to Microsoft. Now Microsoft are probably happy to play ball, Chief's in Fortnite on other systems (and they even used RvB to promote it but I will note that they used Sarge, Grif, Agent One and Raymond across both videos. Caboose wasn't used here) and they seem to be embracing a whole multi-platform, all access sort of deal and this would be another aspect of that.

tl;dr
RvB probably isn't a priority, particularly over RWBY and they still gotta go to Microsoft to get Halo assets to use for Caboose and a potential stage

Want: 100%

I love RvB even if the stuff after Season 14 has been very hit or miss. Caboose is also one of my favourites from the show. In a game focusing on teams, there's always the aspect of friendly fire and this so happens to be one of Caboose's defining traits. Would it be extremely annoying? Absolutely, but it frankly isn't Caboose if he isn't doing dumb things that accidentally gets his allies killed or put into further danger. He would be rather strong a tough to KO to compensate.

Abstaining on Wonka as a whole

Noms:
All on Deathstroke
 

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abstain on this michael as i do not know this red vs blue of which you speak

scrum diddly umptious

chances: err not sure, far as I'm aware you still have to licence the character from the dahl estate. there was a game based on the burton film, which i played, so they have no problem with him being in games. fighting games are another matter. i think im gonna go with 25% as i dont see him being to high on the priority list. as iconic as the character i get the feeling theyll go with other characters instead. dont know why i just do.

want: 90% if its gene wielder or the blake version 0% if its depp or timmothy. cause GW was at least playing willy wonka unlike JD. im not even sure whats going on with this "prequel" of theres. still a sweets based fighter is something i can get behind and some of the stuff from the books/films would be great to put in this sort of game. and a stage set in the factory would be amazing too, what else would it be? the space station from the second book? no one not even WB has made that into a film. itd be nice if they used the term sweets as opposed to candy with him as in the book.

noms to top cat
 
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PuyoWitch

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Caboose

Chance: 5%

I don't know if I should even go this high on it, if I'm being honest. This feels like a bit of a legal nightmare for a series that, while popular, is a lot more niche and limited than a few of Roosterteeth's other properties. Truth be told, I'm more willing to believe one of the real-life workers in the company from Achievement Hunter probably have a better shot. I just think that between the fact that the series literally spawned off of a machinima of Halo, and still uses multicolored Spartan designs for its characters, and the fact I don't think even Roosterteeth considers it a priority anymore compared to their other projects, there's not really a whole lot going for it. If they did include a character, I would think Caboose or Sarge would probably be who they would pick, but that's a big 'if', because I think this game would have to at least double Smash Ultimate's roster size before we got to that point.

Want: 10%

I had actually watched the series when it first came out when I was a kid, and I thought it was kind of funny. I'm sure it's still going strong, but I never felt like this was one of my all-time favorite internet series. I also never really felt like this was a series that deserved to go on as long as it did, with tons of merchandise. I know from saying that, it sounds like I'm hating on it, but I don't. One of my friends really likes it, and I have my own internet series I hold onto with nostalgic value. It just doesn't really appeal to me, and I'm mostly just shocked they're still making videos for it after becoming a massive production company now. I wouldn't be the target audience with this, but if it happened, and it made someone happy, that's good enough for me.

Willy Wonka

Chance: 30%

It's a little ridiculous, but in an "I want to see what they would do" way, that I think would get people talking, and that's a good thing. That said, there's a lot going against it. I think you would probably have to go through the Dahl estate, and I don't know if they might be as keen on the liberties WB would be taking with the license by having him beat someone up, but maybe that happens in the Great Glass Elevator and I just didn't read it. That said, he's at least not really known for being a fighter, which makes him interesting, but also makes it unlikely he's going to be one of the priority names they have to have in. That said, I think there's a lot less to work out here and it's one of those "so crazy it just might work" kind of ideas. The kind that makes you hope the devs are checking this thread for ideas.

Want: 70%

I wasn't expecting it, but honestly, I really think you have the makings of a fun character here. Truth be told, I've never really loved the original movie as much as most people I know, but I used to love the book as a kid, and I love Gene Wilder Wonka. That's probably the version they're most likely to base him off of, but I certainly wouldn't hate on an alt that made him look like the book illustrations, or even the Depp Wonka, for as weird as that movie's version of William Wonka was. My only suggestion is to maybe have a mechanic similar to Olimar but with the Oompa-Loompa as his Pikmin, where each of them have some kind of candy weapon they can use against their opponent.

Nominations:
x10 All Elite Wrestling rep
x10 Fred Flintstone
 

KillerCage

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He is Michael J. Caboose! The Vehicle destroyer!

Chances- 2.5%

I'm going to be blunt. Caboose has very little chance of joining MultiVerses' roster. Red vs Blue may be a Rooster Teeth IP, but it is mostly animated in the Halo multiplayer engines. If Caboose has any chance of entering MultiVerses, Warner Bros would have to go through Microsoft (which might not be a problem considering Microsoft's relationship with Nintendo.) Even if Microsoft wasn't a problem, Caboose has two other issues. The first issue is that he has competition with Rooster Teeth's more IP RWBY. I can see getting a character from both RvB and RWBY as the former is Rooster Teeth's first major hit and its longest running series. The second (and argubly bigger) issue is that Caboose's VA, Joel Heyman, is no longer at Rooster Teeth due to being laid off in 2019. Since then, RvB no longer follows the Reds and Blues which includes Caboose. While he did a new VA for Death Battle's "Red vs Blue" episode, that does very little to help Caboose's chances.

Want- 100%

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I grew up with Red vs Blue. Caboose is easily one of my favorite characters in Red vs Blue. He is one of the few rare examples of flanderization actually improving a character. His childlike idiocy makes him very charming and wholesome with plenty of heartfelt moments throughout the series. It would be amazing if Michael J. Caboose joined MultiVerses in any form.

As for Willy Wonka... I'm abstaining on both his chance and want scores.

My noms: Agent Smith (Matrix) x5 and Neo (Matrix) x5
 
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Michael J. Caboose (Red vs Blue)

Chance:
35%

I feel if Rooster Teeth were to get a character in MultiVersus, it would be Ruby Rose. Caboose is an....interesting case. Reds vs Blues seems to be canon to the HALO universe at this point. WB does not own HALO obviously. However, the dev team is open to adding their party characters. HALO has been open to crossovers. Look at Master Chief in Fortnite and the demand for Master Chief in a future Smash Bros title. If HALO were to get anything in MultiVersus, Caboose would be an alternate costume for Master Chief. However, this is going to take a while for sure.

Want: 70%

I have only seen a few episodes of Red vs Blue with an old friend that introduced me to the show. It is extremely iconic to internet culture. However, I would rather have more iconic WB names in this game first. Once we get all the big names in, then I can consider Caboose's inclusion. MultiVersus seems to be centered around internet culture so Caboose could work, but not for a while for me. I'm down for him.

Willy Wonka

Chance:
60%

Roald Dahl's IPs are a weird case. I do not recall many video games where the Wonka franchise had a crossover outside from Poptropica. However, with there being a new Wonka movie coming out soon, there's potential for marketing here. WB does own their movie adaptations of Wonka which they can use. It just depends on the Roald Dahl Estate's feeling on it. The devs seem to be down for pretty much anything.

Want: 100%

I remember reading Charlie and The Chocolate Factory as a fourth grader. Seeing Willy Wonka himself in MultiVersus would just be nostalgic for me. I have seen both versions of the movie that are out. I think a Wonka Chocolate Factory stage would be cool or Wonkatania. Overall, a character to represent children's literature (besides a Seuss rep). I'm all in for Wonka.

Noms:
Maxwell (Scribblenauts) x10
Peanuts content x10
 

CureParfait

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Michael J Caboose- Abstain on both because I've heard of his series but I don't really know about him.

Willy Wonka
Chance- 15%
I think Dahl Estate would make things rather hard to get Willy Wonka into Multiversus. Also Willy Wonka himself not appearing in crossover games as much despite being fairly iconic seems like a rather ominous sign for his chances.

Want- 5%
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory didn't particularly piqued my interest in general. Although him summoning Oompa Loompas would be hilarious to see.

Noms
Dio Brando- x5
 

DanganZilla5

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Halo but not Halo...but it's still Halo

Chance: 25%

It's difficult for me to pinpoint his chances. Let me get this off the bat: Ruby Rose would certainly be the first Rooster Teeth character to get in. It's by far their most successful IP and it has the advantage of being 100% owned by Warner Bros. And that's the other thing, Microsoft would have to be brought on board. Not that it's a big deal or anything, Microsoft has been very chill when it comes to working with other companies in recent years so they shouldn't be a problem. But when they have Ruby Rose right there and even other candidates like Wiz and Boomstick, it gives me pause, especially since my gut tells me Rooster Teeth probably won't be getting that many reps. Still, Red vs Blue has its merits. It's still relevant and is popular enough that Microsoft has acknowledged it and even worked with it in the past. That's kind of a big deal.

Want: 80%

I've never watched a single episode of Red vs Blue so I don't have any attachment to Caboose himself. So why the high score? Well to be honest, this is as close as we are going to get to Master Chief being in Smash for the time being, so I'll take the next best thing. Besides Red vs Blue is canon to Halo and having Halo content in the game would be sick.

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You get nothing! You lose! Good day Sir!

Chance: 25%

Another tough one for me to decipher. To my knowledge Wonka hasn't made any crossover appearances so it's hard to tell what the Dahl Estate would think in regards to adding him to MultiVersus. Another thing to consider is that there is going to be a prequel film released soon and with Wonka being iconic I think Warner Bros may just go for it. It's true that he is not a fighter but at the same time he's very wacky so they can lean into that with stuff like oversized candy canes and some of the technology from his factory. There is also the Oompa Loompas he can summon too. Overall, I don't have a lot to say on Willy Wonka actually. I just think he's a solid candidate with some merits.

Want: 55%

I watched the 1971 and 2005 films when I was younger. I enjoyed them but was never a huge fan. I wouldn't be hyped for Wonka but he is a very charismatic and sometimes insane character so I'll take him, whether it be the Gene Wilder or Johnny Depp incarnations.

Noms:
Numbuh 1 x10
Eustace Bagge x5
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Mucha Lucha rep
Chance: 21.67%
Want: 57.20%

Noms List

100+

75-99

50-74
Ed, Edd n Eddy x65
Quan-Chi x64
Eustace Bagge x60
The Protagonist (Tenet) x55
Agent Smith x55
Numbuh 1 x55

25-49
Top Cat x45
Dio Brando x45
K.O x40
Rebecca Bunch x40
Concept: Characters with no strong Warner Bros connection x39
Zatanna x35
John Constantine x30
Doomsday x30
The Impractical Jokers x30
Pim and Charlie x30
Fred Flintstone x30
Maxwell x27

1-24
Peanuts content x24
Spike (Gremlins) x21
Harry Potter x20
Rick Sanchez x20
Audrey II x17
All Elite Wrestling rep x13
Citizen Kane x11
Jackie Chan x11
John Stewart x10
Rosie The Robot x10
Lola Bunny x10
The Gilmore Girls (as a duo) x9
Snow Miser x7
**** Grayson x6
Neo x5
Static x5
Osmosis Jones x5
Lion-O x5
Powerpuff Girls x5
Dexter x5
John J. Sheridan x4
Gizmo x4
Six Flags content x2
Shana x2
Kuroyukihime x2
Jarro x1
Godzooky x1
 

GoodGrief741

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Pokemon Red and Blue

Chance: 0%
Sure, Rooster Teeth might own the RvB IP, in the sense that they own the character names and personalities and the original videos. But it's still a machinima, so to visually represent the characters in a commercial product you need to pay Microsoft. Microsoft isn't likely to charge a low price for what is basically palette swap Master Chief, and that's if they even allow it. After all, homeboys are campaigning for him in Smash, a much more prestigious institution, and they might see an appearance in this as detrimental to that. Plus, would WB even care about RvB? It's one thing to promote the obviously marketable RWBY; it's another for the very old-school (outdated?) format of machinimas that has nothing to offer commercially because it would violate fair use.

Want: abstain
I watched some of these back in the day but I didn't think they were anything special

Willy the slave owner

Chance: 35%
Now this is a dark horse right here. Everyone knows Wonka, the mad lad himself, eccentric child-endangering corporate overlord (but, like, the cool version, not the real 2022 version we have many examples of).

The original Gene Wilder version was actually not distributed by WB but by Paramount. However, for some stupid reason, they let the rights lapse, which made them default back to Quaker Oats (????) who sold them to WB where they remain today. WB also made the (underrated) Tim Burton/Johnny Depp version. They are currently working on a prequel/origin story starring one Mr. Timothee Chalamet. So! Three incarnations of Wonka, all owned by Warner Bros.

The story of Charlie, Wonka's Chocolate Factory, the Oompa-Loompas, and the karmic punishment of a bunch of awful kids is iconic and well known to children all over the world. It's full of recognizable imagery and locations and nearly limitless potential for visuals and storytelling. All this to say that, in the eyes of a WB exec, we have a winner here.

Of note is the recent sale of the Roald Dahl bibliography to Netflix. While this definitely means WB can't start a Roald Dahl Cinematic Universe ("nooooooooo!" yelled nobody), the fact remains that WB owns the rights to the Willy Wonka books and they're not very likely to lose them so I don't see that mattering much (especially because Netflix definitely doesn't have the gaming rights which is what matters here anyway).

Want: 100%
Whatever this guy does for a moveset, it'll be bonkers. I'm all in. Gene Wilder would be great but as I grew up with the 2005 version my Wonka will always be Johnny Depp. But given Depp's recent... uh, acrimonious separation, let's say, with WB, he's not likely to be the Wonka incarnation picked. At best he'll be a skin for another version. Either way the most likely incarnation is Chalamet because synergy, and I obviously haven't seen the movie yet so I can't judge him on performance. But if he's voicing Wonka in this game he might as well stick around for a few more hours to voice my man Paul Atreides soooo I see that as a win.

Noms go to Lola Bunny
 

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Day over.

Rate Ed, Edd n Eddy.

Some clips to get into the scamming mood:
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THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOW LOCKED DOWN. NOMINATIONS FOR THEM ARE NULL AND VOID.
Day 22 - Ed, Edd n Eddy
Day 23 - Numbuh 1 (Codename Kids Next Door)
Day 24 - Eustace Bagge (Courage The Cowardly Dog)
Day 25 - Quan-Chi (Mortal Kombat)
Day 26 - Rebecca Bunch (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend)
Day 27 - Agent Smith (The Matrix)
Day 28 - The Protagonist (Tenet) and Top Cat

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Michael J. Caboose
Chance: 12.19%
Want: 72%

Willy Wonka
Chance: 38.75%
Want: 68.33%

Michael J. Caboose is now the least likely character.

Noms List

100+

75-99

50-74
Pim and Charlie x50
Dio Brando x50

25-49
K.O x40
Fred Flintstone x40
Concept: Characters with no strong Warner Bros connection x39
Maxwell x37
Zatanna x35
Peanuts content x34
John Constantine x30
Doomsday x30
The Impractical Jokers x30
Lola Bunny x25

1-24
All Elite Wrestling rep x23
Spike (Gremlins) x21
Harry Potter x20
Rick Sanchez x20
Audrey II x17
Citizen Kane x11
Jackie Chan x11
Deathstroke x10
John Stewart x10
Rosie The Robot x10
Neo x10
The Gilmore Girls (as a duo) x9
Snow Miser x7
**** Grayson x6
Static x5
Osmosis Jones x5
Lion-O x5
Powerpuff Girls x5
Dexter x5
John J. Sheridan x4
Gizmo x4
Six Flags content x2
Shana x2
Kuroyukihime x2
Jarro x1
Godzooky x1
 
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Ed, Edd and Eddy

Chance:
40%
I do not think MultiVersus will be getting many Cartoon Network characters aside from the main ones. But, Ed, Edd and Eddy are definitely a nostalgic pick. I don’t think CN remembers the show as much. But, they are a fan favorite. Given the dev team are very active in listening to fan requests, they have a shot. However, there are characters like Ben 10 that are in their way. Not the highest chance, but definitely not to the lowest.

Want: 85%
Ed, Edd and Eddy would be a nostalgic pick. I’m down for more old school CN reps. However, there’s other characters I’d rather see come first. I can imagine Plank being used in their moveset a lot. But, overall, they would be interesting. I want to see them fight to the Ed.

Noms:
Maxwell (Scribblenauts) x5
Peanuts content x5
 

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Ed, Edd, and Eddy, are there any more Eds here?

Chances- 35%

I feel that Ed, Edd, and Eddy have too much competition to make it into MultiVerses. We already have Steven, Garnet, and Jake in the game. We also already Tom & Jerry, Shaggy, and Bugs Bunny in the roster. Yes the former two (really three) belong to Hanna-Barbera while Bugs comes from Looney Tunes, but they were critical to Cartoon Network's early success. I also feel other Cartoon Network series have higher priority than Ed, Edd, and Eddy. In particular I'm thinking Ben 10, Samurai Jack, PPG, and Gumball have a greater shot at joining MultiVerses' roster than the con artist trio.

Want- 10%

I anti-grew up with Ed, Edd, Eddy. It was one of the few shows my parent active discouraged me from watching. Even if I did watch the show, I don't think I would be excited for their inclusion. I would prefer Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup as our trio over these con artists. Sorry if I dashed their want score.

My noms: Neo (Matrix) x10
 
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"Life has many doors, Ed-boys!"

Chance- 45%
It all depends on how much Cartoon Network content they're going to include. These three are certainly bevloved by fans, and i have heard their names come up a lot when people talk about most wanted characters for this game. But the issue is there is a lot of competition for Cartoon Network characters. I find that in crossover games like these, the 2000s era of CN is often treated sort of like an ugly step child, a trait shared with their rival Nickelodeon. The Ed boys also didn't make it into the last CN platform fighter for unknown reasons. I do think there's a chance they get in if this game gets content for ages, but there are other characters I think we'll see first.

Want - 90%

Loved this show as a kid. It had a huge impact on my sense of humour, as It did with with lot of kids from my generation. I love wacky characters with Oddball movesets, and these three knucleheads would certainly have that.

Noms to Pim and Charlie.
 
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amageish

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Ed, Edd and, additionally, Eddy

Chance: 60%. We currently have a lot of evergreen IPs and then a bunch of modern IPs, without really any old shows that aren't currently alive. Ed, Edd n Eddy doesn't, to my knowledge, have a reboot planned. There's a lot of competition in the Cartoon Network library in particular and Warner Bros' cartoon collections in broader terms.

However, the show is still successful! It is a long-running show with a lot of ties to animation history. It has a pretty active fandom. It continues to get merchandise - CN knows they can still make money off of it.

Now, this show is in the awkward middle era of the 2000s which doesn't tend to be used for nostalgia fodder to the degree of 90s shows and isn't used for modern advertising to the degree of '10s shows... but, hey, times are changing and 2000s nostalgia will probably be becoming more relevant in the next few years anyway (see: all the live-action reboots of 2000s shows we've been seeing get announced and get trailers in the past few years). This game is seemingly aiming to be relevant for a long period of time too, so I can see this becoming a trendier choice with time, if that makes sense?

TL;DR - If this game keeps going for several years without notably altering its scope (i.e., continuing to focus on Warner IPs primarily and not becoming the Fortnite of platform fighters where any crossover is plausible), then I think these three are pretty likely - in some form, at least.

Want: 80%. I'd enjoy seeing these three! I can't say my memories of this show are particularly well-retained, but I'd be nice to have them here, especially after Punch-Time Explosion left them to the wayside.

Noms: Ellie Williams (The Last of Us) x 10
 

CureParfait

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Dor-er I mean Ed, Edd, n Eddy

Chance- 40%
They are definitely the classic mainstays of Cartoon Network and due to that they may have an upper hand regarding to chances. The issue I see with them are since Multiversus is a 2v2 game I am not sure if the Ed trio would work. It feels kind of off it is one Ed only as well.

Want- 40%
I am not too fond of the Ed,Edd,n Eddy series in general. How memey those trio are makes me not mind their inclusion as much. Also there are a lot more worse inclusions than them so yeah.

Noms
Dio Brando- x5
 
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This shall be a fight to the Ed!

Chance: 40%

Multiversus seems to be focusing on both modern and evergreen franchises, which hurts the Eds since they came on the air in 1999, the turn of the millennium. However the show does have a active fanbase and the devs are active on social media platforms so perhaps fan demand could get the Eds in.

Another problem the Eds may have is how many? Without a doubt all three are equally important which leads to the problem of how to portray them moveset wise. Fellow Cartoon Network duo Finn and Jake are separated into unique characters for this game which somewhat hurts the Eds chances since all three would need to be playable if separated. Alternatively the devs could try a Pokémon Trainer style solution for the Eds where all three share one slot.

Want: 100%

My personal favorite Cartoon Network show, and thus my overall most wanted for the game. I always enjoyed the show from it's fourth wall humor to it's jazz style soundtrack, the show never fails to make me laugh. If we don't get the Eds, some of the show background music should be included.

Noms: All to Steve Urkel from Family Matters
 

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SO!
When are we gonna do Numbuh 1 DanganZilla5 DanganZilla5 ?
There are a couple reasons why I waited this long. One, I like to give each day at least 48 hours. Two, I was waiting for a few regulars to post but it looks like they aren't going to and it's been 48 hours. But first....

Ed bois

Chance: 25%

As much as it pains me to say, I don't think their chances are looking as bright as jawbreakers right now. We've already got some Cartoon Network characters on the roster and while we'll probably get some more, it's a tough field. I will bet that we'll get Ben 10 next and after that it's a toss up. You got recent successes like Regular Show and classics like Powerpuff Girls that got a revival show. The Ed boys do have some merit, their show is a classic in every sense of the word and they do have some demand. Plus they even got a finale movie which not many Cartoon Network shows can say they got. But otherwise I feel that they struggle to stand out and have an uphill battle. Oh yeah, and in terms of how they would work, a Pokemon Trainer type moveset would work well. So I don't think that aspect is an issue for them.

Want: 100%

Ed, Edd n Eddy is my top favorite comedy show of all time, and my third favorite show overall. I grew up enjoying the **** out of this show and even as a 22 year old I still watch it from time to time. It still cracks me up and brings me back to simpler times. If we could get any kind of content for this show I would be exhilarated.

Noms: Neo x10
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Day over.

Rate Numbuh 1 from Codename: Kids Next Door.

Some clips to get into the mood to discuss a show that is a kid's wants and fears gone amok:
 

GoodGrief741

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Ed x3

Chance: 25%
Want: 100%

Ed Edd and Eddy is a beloved cartooN Network show remembered fondly by many. However a couple of factors really hold back the trio in my book. First and foremost they're from an era that we don't have any fighters representing. Maybe it's a matter of time, or maybe it'll be snubbed because it's neither relevant nor nostalgic. Whatever the case, even within the 2000s CN shows, they lag behind some heavy hitters like Ben 10. Though they aren't that far down the line either.One also wonders how much focus CN will even have in this game as there are several verticals of Warner vying for attention. Finally, I don't know if a trio fighter would work. It's a lot of characters, not even Smash has done it, and the Eds are pretty sizeable humanoids rather than the small Ice Climbers (or the Chorus Kids, the commonly speculated trio fighter). Multiversus only has Tom & Jerry as a duo so they still have a ways to go and this might be technically too difficult to conceptualize for the devs at this point. However the score is high because they're notorious enough that on a long enough timeline they'll get in, I'm sure.

Noms: Lola Bunny x10
 
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Chance - 48%
Pretty similar rating to Ed, Edd and Eddy. Though slightly higher because CKND has had slightly better treatment in crossovers through the years. We've yet to really see any representation for the 2000s era of Cartoon Network. Numbah 1 does seem a little bit more fighting game ready than some other potential options. Main issue is the show has been finished for while, and while a sequal series has been pitched a couple of times, nothing has ever came of those talks. Personally I see him as possible, but there are other CN characters I think we'll see first.

Want - 90%
I really liked this show growing up. I remember following it and getting invested in the storylines. While I think all the kids have their merits. Nigel really should be the playable character should the series receive one. Its pretty easy to imagine a moveset for him with all the gadgets from the series.

Noms to Samurai Jack
 
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In the word of Numbuh 1, "Kids Next Door! Battle stations!"

Chances- 40%

Numbuh One is in a very familiar situation to Ed, Edd, and Eddy. He faces the same competition as them, particularly Ben 10. One thing the con artist trio have over Nigel Uno is that their show lasted significantly longer than his. What pushes Nigel's chance score ahead of the con artists is that he has more tools in his arsenal that he can use for his moveset in MultiVerses. Aside from the better moveset potential, the leader of the Kids Next Door is going to have a up-hill battle getting into the biggest crossover game since Smash Ultimate.

Want- 90%

Unlike Ed, Edd, and Eddy, I actually grew up with Kid Next Door. I remember seeing the show being advertised in Cinemax threaters in 2003 back when I lived in Texas. I even saw the tv movie where Nigel teamed up with his father to save the world. Like I said earlier, Numbuh 1 has plenty of material to make a solid moveset. The makeshift weapons and gadgets would make him a versatile fighter. I'll be very pleased to see Nigel Uno in MultiVerses.

My noms: Neo (Matrix) x10
 

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Numbuh 1

Chance: 30%
A popular CN show from the 2000's with a lot of fun moveset potential. K.N.D. got multiple reps in Punch Time Explosion so I can see it getting more than one character for Multiversus. The main issue here is that I don't see K.N.D. having much priority compared to other CN shows like Ben 10 or additional Steven Universe reps.

Even if we do get a K.N.D. rep, it isn't guaranteed to be Numbuh 1. So far we have multiple cases of series heads/mascots being put on the waiting list while other characters get in instead (Shaggy over Scooby being the prime example of this). K.N.D. is sort of an ARMS situation where although Numbuh 1 is the head of Sector V, pretty much any of the main 5 will have a roughly equal shot at getting in. On top of all of this, there are some villains like Father and Stickybeard that could be the surprise rep for K.N.D.

It'll mainly depend on what the devs want, though Numbuh 1 being the only Sector V kid to get into PTE is why I think he has the best shot of the bunch.

Want: 100%
Out of all of the Cartoon Network shows, K.N.D. is the one I want to get repped the most. It was my favorite CN show as a kid and pretty much any character from the series would be a ton of fun to play as.

If only one character had to get in then it should be one of the main 5 kids, and out of them I feel like Numbuh 1 is the best suited. He's the leader of the bunch and is generally the most well-rounded of the Sector V kids.

Nominations:
Lola Bunny x10
 
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