Release Grabs

[^Eclipse]

Do you use release grabs in matches? Have you found a good use for them? If you do then how often do you use them?

Does fox have any infinite release chain grabs on any of the cast?
I think Fox has a release chain grab on Wario. Could someone double check this for me please?

 

[magikguy]

nah i dont bother doing release grabs ,his grabs are too good to waste

 

[-Mars-]

Against Wario I think you can combo the release grab into a guaranteed up smash.

 

[718_ROOKI3]

Here is one Fact and Trick I taught myself with Fox.

This isn't easy to pull off but since this isn't done very often your opponent shouldn't see it coming.

As your opponent is coming back from being knocked off the stage, if you notice that their might be an opportunity to grab him, do it. Get your grab-jabs in until your opponent releases. That person is going to fall straight down being slightly stunned, in that instant YOU GO FOR THE SHINE SPIKE.

Also if you happen get your opponent cornered and can grab-jab-release him/her off the stage thats just as good.

I have done this, Its certify, Its a fact, But very very difficult to pull off due to certain Up-Bs in the game.

 

[§witch]

Meh, I usually fthrow them off instead. It's not THAT hard to do what you're saying, if for some reason they don't grab the edge, it's an easy thing to sheildgrab them of their Up B.

 

[718_ROOKI3]

Meh, I usually fthrow them off instead. It's not THAT hard to do what you're saying, if for some reason they don't grab the edge, it's an easy thing to sheildgrab them of their Up B.

Your some what right (if the opponent makes a mistake) but come down New York (Best brawl players, we don't believe in mistakes) and see if it aint as HARD as i explained it. I play competitive Smash (tournys) and if there had to be what seems to be a PRO level of skill for BRAWL, im playing it. So yea it actually is THAT HARD.
*NO SARCASM* *NO FLAMING* *NO SMART MOUTHING* Im serious about what I said.

Competitive - Its Hard
For Fun - Too easy

 

[Fenrir VII]

Your some what right (if the opponent makes a mistake) but come down New York (Best brawl players, we don't believe in mistakes) and see if it aint as HARD as i explained it. I play competitive Smash (tournys) and if there had to be what seems to be a PRO level of skill for BRAWL, im playing it. So yea it actually is THAT HARD.
*NO SARCASM* *NO FLAMING* *NO SMART MOUTHING* Im serious about what I said.

Competitive - Its Hard
For Fun - Too easy

Bit cocky, there, aren't ya?

It's pretty easy to land the grab on the ledge. either call out a ledge attack, or just wait for a landing shield out of a high-recovering upB...or fthrow cg a shielder to the edge...or land a dair grab on a ledgehop, ledge-jump, ledge attack, or stand up. >.>

If you do manage to grab them after their 2nd jump, they don't get it back...which is so nice. And yeah, the shine spike after it is tricky on some upBs...samus comes to mind...

But if you just mix up shine with Nair/Dair and just a ledge grab, it's a really quick way to get easy kills.

But please, a lot of us on the boards are "PRO" (as you say it) tournament players...many from back in the Melee day, too... so you really don't have to be so cocky. it gets annoying.

 

[718_ROOKI3]

Bit cocky, there, aren't ya?

It's pretty easy to land the grab on the ledge. either call out a ledge attack, or just wait for a landing shield out of a high-recovering upB...or fthrow cg a shielder to the edge...or land a dair grab on a ledgehop, ledge-jump, ledge attack, or stand up. >.>

If you do manage to grab them after their 2nd jump, they don't get it back...which is so nice. And yeah, the shine spike after it is tricky on some upBs...samus comes to mind...

But if you just mix up shine with Nair/Dair and just a ledge grab, it's a really quick way to get easy kills.

But please, a lot of us on the boards are "PRO" (as you say it) tournament players...many from back in the Melee day, too... so you really don't have to be so cocky. it gets annoying.

I ain't getting cocky its the truth and you act like I wasn't around in melee, don't tell me that cuz you don't even know me...and the reason for me posting the way I do is because alot of people have a tendency to post things up and explain how it's done and act like they can pull it off on any1...what im trying to explain is thats not how things work...especially if you play competitive players (especially the best of N.J./N.Y.C.) AND DO YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD ALLOW YOU TO GRAB ME OFF THE MAP AFTER MY SECOND MY JUMP? I'LL PUT MY LIFE ON IT YOU WOULDN'T DO IT IN 100 TRYS...Im so misunderstood on some of my posts but those who know me or feel where im coming from know the deal so that's all that matters to me

ANYWAY LETS GET BACK TO THE TOPIC

 

[Pierce7d]

Bit cocky, there, aren't ya?

It's pretty easy to land the grab on the ledge. either call out a ledge attack, or just wait for a landing shield out of a high-recovering upB...or fthrow cg a shielder to the edge...or land a dair grab on a ledgehop, ledge-jump, ledge attack, or stand up. >.>

If you do manage to grab them after their 2nd jump, they don't get it back...which is so nice. And yeah, the shine spike after it is tricky on some upBs...samus comes to mind...

But if you just mix up shine with Nair/Dair and just a ledge grab, it's a really quick way to get easy kills.

But please, a lot of us on the boards are "PRO" (as you say it) tournament players...many from back in the Melee day, too... so you really don't have to be so cocky. it gets annoying.

I believe his point was in the bolded section, and that he was simply trying to say that when he's done this, it has reaped fruitful rewards, but it's not easy to do in a competitive match. I believe what you interpreted as cockiness was merely misplaced emphasis, and that he was simply pointing out that the best use that he new for a release grab would actually be difficult for him to perform.

Of course, this isn't really a reason to flame or start an argument for anyone.

Anyway, though I don't main Fox, depending on my position on the stage, I might attempt a release grab to a dashing pivot regrab, since I'm reckless. After getting off free grab hits to refresh my moveset, a pivot grab places me behind you, leaving you open if you attempted a frontal retaliation.
Of course, this works best on opponents that like to shield after a release grab, so make sure you mix it up.

 

[§witch]

It's because your grammar sucks, we can't take you seriously. Oh, and just because you don't want to get grabbed doesn't mean you won't. BTW, the best smash players come from SoCal, az , and texas, just a heads up.

 

[718_ROOKI3]

It's because your grammar sucks, we can't take you seriously. Oh, and just because you don't want to get grabbed doesn't mean you won't. BTW, the best smash players come from SoCal, az , and texas, just a heads up.

Says the dude from Canada. Listen don't get me started on that like i said NYC/NJ best players hands down.

You know im done posting in the Fox threads because obviously all ya'll seem to be in some fairytale land where nothing seems to be straight forward or blunt...I hope to see all ya'll at a tourny someday...So i can see if you can run your mouth when im in your face...One

 

[§witch]

Yeah, I know canada doesn't have the best...I just told you where they are...k, I can't say I'll miss you.

 

[718_ROOKI3]

Na, i aint going nowhere just curious what someone would say, i'll just let whomever decides to criticize stare at the wall because im not paying any mind to them

 

[^Eclipse]

Can we get back on topic please?

Has anyone tested the Wario chain grab? I tested it again and it seems to work.....

Edit: Fox seems to have a release chain grab on bowser as well.

 

[Acex27]

Listen, it doesn't matter where the player is from, imo, it matters what thier skill level is. I go to tournies too, so don't call me a noob, and don't give me the NY/NJ crapline either cuz im from NY. All I wanna say is that this doesn't have to become a region war. Oh and BTW if you lost your second jump its hella easy to get shield grabbed if you're facing someone with any skill.

Yeah the wario chingrab works well for me too, of course I haven't mastered it yet.

 

[Rayo1]

the wario chaingrab works but the timing is alittle tricky.Why are people trying to start a region board for no real reason.-_-

 

[Ace55]

Listen don't get me started on that like i said NYC/NJ best players hands down.

I'm from Amsterdam and even I know that's bullsh*t. I guess I live in Fairyland too.

And you can't release grab chainthrow Wario, Fox isn't tall enough for the regrab.

 

[^Eclipse]

Release chain grab seems to work against Charizard and Jigglypuff too.

And you can't release grab chainthrow Wario, Fox isn't tall enough for the regrab.

Could you elaborate please?

 

[Fenrir VII]

I'm from Amsterdam and even I know that's bullsh*t. I guess I live in Fairyland too.

And you can't release grab chainthrow Wario, Fox isn't tall enough for the regrab.

Release chain grab seems to work against Charizard and Jigglypuff too.




Could you elaborate please?

Fox doesn't have a grab release regrab chain on Wario. He has a combo that many people are considering to be inescapable now.

Grab, release, dair, regrab.

I can't say for sure if it's inescapable because I haven't tested it yet. I'll probably do that tonight or tomorrow. This is actually the first I've heard about Charizard and Jiggs, though.

And let's not start a region war in here...please

 

[Ace55]

Could you elaborate please?

All I know is that a few characters (Falcon, Ganon, ZSS, Yoshi, Peach) can infinite us with a regrab after the release. The timing for the regrab is pretty insane though and the damage building will be incredibly slow. Don't know anything about the dair to grab, but sadly that sounds plausible.
No more telling other characters how to **** us, figure it out yourself.

 

[^Eclipse]

Fox doesn't have a grab release regrab chain on Wario. He has a combo that many people are considering to be inescapable now.

Grab, release, dair, regrab.

I can't say for sure if it's inescapable because I haven't tested it yet. I'll probably do that tonight or tomorrow. This is actually the first I've heard about Charizard and Jiggs, though.

And let's not start a region war in here...please

I did a quick test against the whole cast. Wario, Bowser, Charizard, and Jigglypuff are the only characters that slide close enough so that Fox can try to regrab.

However, I can't judge off of my eye whether those character are still in the recovery animation long enough for fox to successfully chain grabs.

I still think chain works on Wario.....but I will test him and those three other characters later tonight.