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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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I support her, she honestly fits into Smash perfectly with her gameplay, and she’s got a great track record as well in terms of her game series and overall appearances. (Hell I would take her for Christina Vee alone)
 

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So I recently started the Costume Pack (specifically the Mighty Switch Force police uniform) and I have 3 thoughts.

1. The gameplay, while simplified to be more arcade style, is easier yet trickier than plain ol' Shantae (No crouching makes dodging a lot harder, at least, to me it does).

2. The animation for when an enemy (or Shantae) is sent flying towards the screen is hilarious!

3. Really, the entire thing is full of humor. Especially the dialogue!

Overall, I enjoyed my time with the DLC thus far. Now... back to supporting Shantae for me!
 

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So I recently started the Costume Pack (specifically the Mighty Switch Force police uniform) and I have 3 thoughts.

1. The gameplay, while simplified to be more arcade style, is easier yet trickier than plain ol' Shantae (No crouching makes dodging a lot harder, at least, to me it does).

2. The animation for when an enemy (or Shantae) is sent flying towards the screen is hilarious!

3. Really, the entire thing is full of humor. Especially the dialogue!

Overall, I enjoyed my time with the DLC thus far. Now... back to supporting Shantae for me!
imagine if Shantae gets revealed its all in the artstyle of HGH the trailer begins with SHantae fighting off Idk Inklings or Mario or Palutena.
 

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imagine if Shantae gets revealed its all in the artstyle of HGH the trailer begins with SHantae fighting off Idk Inklings or Mario or Palutena.
Actually, I've always prefer The Pirate's Curse ArtStyle for Shantae & Risky Boots's treatments when coming in Smash 4 Future Updated Patch 3DS/WiiU & especially Smash 5 Switch!
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P.S: #Shantae4Smash5 & #RiskyBoots4Smash5
 

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Something that came to mind, when was the LAST time Wayforward or Matt Bozon or anyone on there tweeted or retweeted anything related to Smash or the idea of Shantae being in Smash like someone showing fanart or supporting her?
 

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Something that came to mind, when was the LAST time Wayforward or Matt Bozon or anyone on there tweeted or retweeted anything related to Smash or the idea of Shantae being in Smash like someone showing fanart or supporting her?
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P.S: #Haiku #Shantae4Smash5 #RiskyBoots4Smash5 #RET2GO #RaheemTheDream #NeverGiveUp #RaheemXCristinaVee #GODWILLS #DreamFearlessly #DreamBig #BelieveInYourDreams #GITGUD #AllOrNothing #GoodLuck
 
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P.S: #Haiku #Shantae4Smash5 #RiskyBoots4Smash5 #RET2GO #RaheemTheDream #NeverGiveUp #RaheemXCristinaVee #GODWILLS #DreamFearlessly #DreamBig #BelieveInYourDreams #GITGUD #AllOrNothing #GoodLuck
Not to be rude, but most of that was just your own tweets and I couldnt see if most of them were even retweeted by anyone with wayForwarrd.

it was jumbled mess that, out of context was nice to see, but in the context of what I asked for was overall not helpful
 

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Tl;dr
It was Matt Bozon thanking the fans for voting for Shantae in the Smash Ballot right after the final direct revealing Bayo. By that time Sakurai had already visited Wayforward back in October, so if anything Smash related happened then he would probably have already known she wouldn't get revealed. So either
1. He wrote the tweet to act the part
2. Nothing Smash related happened during Sakurai's visit.
I do find it a little odd that he'd write it like that though, since he probably would've known beforehand whether she'd get it or not no matter what. Still no real leads though.
 

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Tl;dr
It was Matt Bozon thanking the fans for voting for Shantae in the Smash Ballot right after the final direct revealing Bayo. By that time Sakurai had already visited Wayforward back in October, so if anything Smash related happened then he would probably have already known she wouldn't get revealed. So either
1. He wrote the tweet to act the part
2. Nothing Smash related happened during Sakurai's visit.
I do find it a little odd that he'd write it like that though, since he probably would've known beforehand whether she'd get it or not no matter what. Still no real leads though.
Thanks


Wait a minute, to put it to rest, that photo of James with Sakurai, the only thing I could see it being is an E3 situation. Is there anyway to look back and confirm via his or anyone else twitter that they were at E3 that year? I might still mean they met after but if they werent at E3...that means they met sometime after E3.
 
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Guys, I've always been a Number #1 very strong passionate fan of Shantae & Risky Boots supporter since Day 1 & especially managing with this FanBase page on FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/ShantaeForSmashNXClub/ plus receiving 698 of Fan Supporters's love, so far!
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At the end of the day, Daddy Masahiro Sakurai-San
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better adds Shantae & Risky Boots in his Smash Bros. 4 Future Updated Patch on 3DS/WiiU Versions with my highest hopes to believe now & especially Smash 5 Switch!

P.S: I love y'all for making this far for Shantae & Risky Boots's case to finally be over with in this year's GOOD-LUCK 2018 perfect timing wise!
 
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Love the enthusiasm, but please spoiler tag all the links and everything because it takes a while to load all of that and it clutters up the board.
 

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Well we will find out more info on Smash 5 at this year's E3. Especially what the subtitle for it will be since now it is just one game and not two games on different consoles.

#ShantaeFor5mash
 

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Well we will find out more info on Smash 5 at this year's E3. Especially what the subtitle for it will be since now it is just one game and not two games on different consoles.

#ShantaeFor5mash
Again, everybody please hurry up to go vote for Shantae & Risky Boots 4Smash5 now on these two links: https://www.strawpoll.me/12228707 & http://www.tricider.com/brainstorming/2cPuDwLrGxJ Well, GOOD-LUCK voting y'all & especially #Shantae4Smash5 & #RiskyBoots4Smash5!

P.S: I'm fully aware of The Smash 4 3DS/WiiU versions development ended back then, but I've strongly doubted dat fun fact because Nintendo shall make Smash Bros. a Big Juggernaut Money Making Tree for DLC versions 4 Smash Bros. 3DS/WiiU & especially The Nintendo Switch! Please watch this video:

Yellowlord Yellowlord , please add my name in The Shantae Supporter List, again!
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Again, everybody please hurry up to go vote for Shantae & Risky Boots 4Smash5 now on these two links: https://www.strawpoll.me/12228707 & http://www.tricider.com/brainstorming/2cPuDwLrGxJ Well, GOOD-LUCK voting y'all & especially #Shantae4Smash5 & #RiskyBoots4Smash5!

P.S: I'm fully aware of The Smash 4 3DS/WiiU versions development ended back then, but I've strongly doubted dat fun fact because Nintendo shall make Smash Bros. a Big Juggernaut Money Making Tree for DLC versions 4 Smash Bros. 3DS/WiiU & especially The Nintendo Switch! Please watch this video:

Yellowlord Yellowlord , please add my name in The Shantae Supporter List, again!
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voting risky boots is pointless and also unneeded.
 

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voting risky boots is pointless and also unneeded.
Actually, you're Wrong Sir:

Technically speaking, Risky Boots is pointful & especially needed to be voted in 4Smash5! Because, she'll be the very First Antagonist Female Rep Villian from WayForward's Shantae Franchise in Super Smash Bros. Franchise Roster in history with great potential movesets could be based on her boss fights throughout the series, the pirate gears from Pirate's Curse/Half-Genie Hero, can summons her minions of Tinkerbats in Smash Bros. to rekt up damage to her opponents for wise strategy mindset combos, hopefully can change from her Pirate Hat to her Scarf when down taunt & especially is voiced by @CristinaVee while voicing Shantae!

P.S:
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#GODWILLS #Haiku #RaheemXCristinaVee #NeverGiveUp #Shantae4Smash5 #RiskyBoots4Smash5 #RET2GO #RaheemTheDream #BelieveInYourDreams #GITGUD #DreamBig #DreamFearlessly #AllOrNothing
 

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Actually, you're Wrong Sir:

Technically speaking, Risky Boots is pointful & especially needed to be voted in 4Smash5! Because, she'll be the very First Antagonist Female Rep Villian from WayForward's Shantae Franchise in Super Smash Bros. Franchise Roster in history with great potential movesets could be based on her boss fights throughout the series, the pirate gears from Pirate's Curse/Half-Genie Hero, can summons her minions of Tinkerbats in Smash Bros. to rekt up damage to her opponents for wise strategy mindset combos, hopefully can change from her Pirate Hat to her Scarf when down taunt & especially is voiced by @CristinaVee while voicing Shantae!

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#GODWILLS #Haiku #RaheemXCristinaVee #NeverGiveUp #Shantae4Smash5 #RiskyBoots4Smash5 #RET2GO #RaheemTheDream #BelieveInYourDreams #GITGUD #DreamBig #DreamFearlessly #AllOrNothing
You almost make me embarrassed to be a Shantae Supporter.
 
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I just wanted to drop in to say that, while I do believe her chances are extraordinarily low, I support the half genie on her quest to Smash...is 'phrasing' still a thing?

Anyway, I think she'd be a welcome representative to become among the first indies to make it.
 

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Not really related to Smash Bros., but I made something with Shantae and figured I'd share it here.
I almost thought she was flipping the bird lmao. Guess that'd be her reaction to the Smash Ballot, huh?

Regardless, good work. I'd look into making your own personal watermark rather than using DA's, because their watermark is god-awful and really takes away from the image.
 

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I almost thought she was flipping the bird lmao. Guess that'd be her reaction to the Smash Ballot, huh?

Regardless, good work. I'd look into making your own personal watermark rather than using DA's, because their watermark is god-awful and really takes away from the image.
Thanks! Yeah, the DA watermark can be a bit distracting at times... I just kinda left it there so people know it's mine in case it's reposted anywhere. But I'll get around to making my own watermark soon.
 

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I never played Shantae before. But, I definitely support this. She sounds interesting!
 

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I never played Shantae before. But, I definitely support this. She sounds interesting!
If you ever do get into Shantae, make sure to play Pirate's Curse first, Half-Genie Hero next, Shantae GBC to get your history on, and maybe Risky's Revenge but I personally think you can skip that game.
 

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In my personal opinion, I'm giving Shantae a rating of 100% wise! Anyways, please watch this video:
& especially #Shantae4Smash5 #RET2GO
 
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I want Shantae more than Shovel Knight. I think Shovel Knight has no reason to be in smash 5 because Shovel Knight is in every indie crossover and spin offs too. And Shovel Knight still has a long way too go he doesn't reach that gaming history. Shanate is a old character that got back from the dead and shes a classic it help Shanate chances a bit.
 

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Besides karate Joe Shantae is my dream pick <3
 
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Sorry everyone for kind of dropping off the map for a while, real life has been kind of a ***** lately.


I have created a Shantae support server on Discord for anyone interested to join, feel free anytime.

https://discord.gg/kscPfqs
Nice, I'm not on Discord often, but the next time I log on I'll be sure to join.
r/smashbros recently did a poll over what characters they'd like to see in Smash, and Shantae finished 18th
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Not what I was hoping for, but not surprising. 18th isn't too bad, but it's a far cry from the sorts of results she was pulling a couple years ago. Reddit definitely has some community bandwagoning, so who knows how much these results really mean. On the other hand, I am pretty sure the Shantae hype has died down since the ballot ended and HGH released (still significantly above her pre-ballot level of support though I think). I doubt it matters now anyway, they probably finished picking out the new roster a long time ago. If they do DLC characters, there is a chance that current popularity will influence their choices, but even then I kind of doubt it.

Keep in mind Sakurai actually visited Wayforward the day before the Smash Ballot ended to play an early build of HGH. Not many people hold any stake in that, but I think it means something especially since Wayforward and Yacht Club Games are located 10 miles apart from each other. He could have visited the two most promising indie characters' homes on the same day. Now according to SourceGaming the period of development for Smash Switch didn't start until May 2016, or about 7 months later, but I think giving that the Smash Ballot was already a thing by the time of his visit and it was right near the end of the polling period it is possible he flew to Valencia, California to scout the two big Western names that ranked high on the Smash ballot.
I remember reading about that tour by Sakurai too, but I went looking for a source for it a while ago and couldn't find anything other than the same tweet that you shared:


My conclusion is that someone saw that tweet and the picture shared by James Montagna, and then jumped to the conclusion that Sakurai must have been there touring their studio. We don't actually know when that picture was taken though, so unfortunately there is no solid evidence that the tour took place at all, at least not to my knowledge. It may have, the tweet is certainly still suggestive, but we just don't know.

It may not have helped during the ballot, but post ballot the localization (more than likely) helped spread awareness of the series.
Yeah exactly this. Shantae (and Shovel Knight for that matter) probably got close to zero votes in Japan during the ballot, which doesn't do her chances any good, but if they discussed Shantae at all, her localization and initial fan response in Japan would have definitely come up in that conversation.

I finished my play-through of Shantae 1/2 hero genie. It was an enjoyable little game for something I cleared in 5 and a half hours. I can entirely understand her appeal and moveset possibilities. I wouldn't say I'd support or clamor for her per say but I will say I would not be disappointed if she were to be included.
Half Genie Hero isn't bad, but to be honest I don't think I would support Shantae for Smash either if that was the only Shantae game I played. I would tell you that you've gotta play the original Shantae game first, but everyone else will tell you that Pirate's Curse is the one to base your decision on. Storyline-wise it doesn't really matter that much, there is an overarching story but it's not that big of a deal.

So I recently started the Costume Pack (specifically the Mighty Switch Force police uniform) and I have 3 thoughts.

1. The gameplay, while simplified to be more arcade style, is easier yet trickier than plain ol' Shantae (No crouching makes dodging a lot harder, at least, to me it does).

2. The animation for when an enemy (or Shantae) is sent flying towards the screen is hilarious!

3. Really, the entire thing is full of humor. Especially the dialogue!

Overall, I enjoyed my time with the DLC thus far. Now... back to supporting Shantae for me!
Maybe I'll have to give this one a try after all. I played through the rest of the DLC, and it was nice, but I've played those levels sooo many times already.

Raheem The Dream Raheem The Dream I gotta be honest man, I think supporting Risky Boots for Smash is not just pointless but probably counterproductive. It's totally cool to want her in Smash, and to think she'd make a cool fighter. I'm with you on that: Risky obviously has great moveset potential, she's a distinctive and recurring character, and she'd be the first female villain (no Wendy doesn't count). But remember that even the Sonic series only has one rep. It's a big deal to include any third party character in Smash, let alone an indie character. Two characters from a single third party franchise is unheard of. Shantae in Smash is a realistic possibility, even if the likelihood is hard to gauge. Risky Boots in Smash is not a realistic possibility. Most people don't take non-realistic character requests seriously, so if you advocate for Risky alongside Shantae, you risk people dismissing your whole message. Of course there's probably no point in campaigning now anyways, so maybe that doesn't matter, but I would keep it in mind all the same.
 
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Sorry everyone for kind of dropping off the map for a while, real life has been kind of a ***** lately.



Nice, I'm not on Discord often, but the next time I log on I'll be sure to join.

Not what I was hoping for, but not surprising. 18th isn't too bad, but it's a far cry from the sorts of results she was pulling a couple years ago. Reddit definitely has some community bandwagoning, so who knows how much these results really mean. On the other hand, I am pretty sure the Shantae hype has died down since the ballot ended and HGH released (still significantly above her pre-ballot level of support though I think). I doubt it matters now anyway, they probably finished picking out the new roster a long time ago. If they do DLC characters, there is a chance that current popularity will influence their choices, but even then I kind of doubt it.


I remember reading about that tour by Sakurai too, but I went looking for a source for it a while ago and couldn't find anything other than the same tweet that you shared:


My conclusion is that someone saw that tweet and the picture shared by James Montagna, and then jumped to the conclusion that Sakurai must have been there touring their studio. We don't actually know when that picture was taken though, so unfortunately there is no solid evidence that the tour took place at all, at least not to my knowledge. It may have, the tweet is certainly still suggestive, but we just don't know.


Yeah exactly this. Shantae (and Shovel Knight for that matter) probably got close to zero votes in Japan during the ballot, which doesn't do her chances any good, but if they discussed Shantae at all, her localization and initial fan response in Japan would have definitely come up in that conversation.


Half Genie Hero isn't bad, but to be honest I don't think I would support Shantae for Smash either if that was the only Shantae game I played. I would tell you that you've gotta play the original Shantae game first, but everyone else will tell you that Pirate's Curse is the one to base your decision on. Storyline-wise it doesn't really matter that much, there is an overarching story but it's not that big of a deal.


Maybe I'll have to give this one a try after all. I played through the rest of the DLC, and it was nice, but I've played those levels sooo many times already.

Raheem The Dream Raheem The Dream I gotta be honest man, I think supporting Risky Boots for Smash is not just pointless but probably counterproductive. It's totally cool to want her in Smash, and to think she'd make a cool fighter. I'm with you on that: Risky obviously has great moveset potential, she's a distinctive and recurring character, and she'd be the first female villain (no Wendy doesn't count). But remember that even the Sonic series only has one rep. It's a big deal to include any third party character in Smash, let alone an indie character. Two characters from a single third party franchise is unheard of. Shantae in Smash is a realistic possibility, even if the likelihood is hard to gauge. Risky Boots in Smash is not a realistic possibility. Most people don't take non-realistic character requests seriously, so if you advocate for Risky alongside Shantae, you risk people dismissing your whole message. Of course there's probably no point in campaigning now anyways, so maybe that doesn't matter, but I would keep it in mind all the same.
It is confirmed at least the the last date the photo was "modified" which is when it was last changed or...when it was taken. the date in its metadata was 2 minutes before it was posted on twitter. There is also the matter of WHERE it was taken, as the only place I can see Sakurai and WF staff being at the same place would be E3...which was 4 months ago from the time of the photo being put up and well..why would James wait 4 months to post a photo like that?
 

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Completely support this. You can add me to the support list. Her, Geno and Krystal are the characters I want the most in the next smash game. Shantae in particular makes sense and is the most deserving considering how long she has been a part of Nintendo and that every Shantae game has been in a Nintendo console. On top of that, not only would she be another female character (that there are not many of in Smash) but she has the potential for a very unique moveset. Not to mention the Shantae games' aesthetics and tone would fit well with Smash.

To me it's kind of ludicrous that she still hasnt made it in. She's a major character in a long running franchise that up until recently was exclusively on Nintendo consoles.
 
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Surprisingly this thread has almost quadruple times more views than the Shovel Knight thread.
 
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OK so Shantae HGH Ultimate has launched in Japan, and her "Amazon JP rating for Switch titles" at time of post is 15. Thats impressive in its self, but you gotta remember the Preorders for Mega Man 11 have gone live and 3 different Bundles of MM11 are above her (the amiibo bundle is Number 1.) so her number could be seen as 13 instead.

But if anything this shows that Shantae can even hold her own against Mega Man himself.

 

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Pretty good article, even if indie characters are slim to get into smash I'm hoping Sakurai will recognize that indies are a big part gaming history and will at least consider putting 2 indie characters which I am hoping for Shantae & Shovel Knight.
Hey, don't forget about our Pirate Queen: Risky ♥♪Juicy Booty♪♥
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Sorry everyone for kind of dropping off the map for a while, real life has been kind of a ***** lately.



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Not what I was hoping for, but not surprising. 18th isn't too bad, but it's a far cry from the sorts of results she was pulling a couple years ago. Reddit definitely has some community bandwagoning, so who knows how much these results really mean. On the other hand, I am pretty sure the Shantae hype has died down since the ballot ended and HGH released (still significantly above her pre-ballot level of support though I think). I doubt it matters now anyway, they probably finished picking out the new roster a long time ago. If they do DLC characters, there is a chance that current popularity will influence their choices, but even then I kind of doubt it.


I remember reading about that tour by Sakurai too, but I went looking for a source for it a while ago and couldn't find anything other than the same tweet that you shared:


My conclusion is that someone saw that tweet and the picture shared by James Montagna, and then jumped to the conclusion that Sakurai must have been there touring their studio. We don't actually know when that picture was taken though, so unfortunately there is no solid evidence that the tour took place at all, at least not to my knowledge. It may have, the tweet is certainly still suggestive, but we just don't know.


Yeah exactly this. Shantae (and Shovel Knight for that matter) probably got close to zero votes in Japan during the ballot, which doesn't do her chances any good, but if they discussed Shantae at all, her localization and initial fan response in Japan would have definitely come up in that conversation.


Half Genie Hero isn't bad, but to be honest I don't think I would support Shantae for Smash either if that was the only Shantae game I played. I would tell you that you've gotta play the original Shantae game first, but everyone else will tell you that Pirate's Curse is the one to base your decision on. Storyline-wise it doesn't really matter that much, there is an overarching story but it's not that big of a deal.


Maybe I'll have to give this one a try after all. I played through the rest of the DLC, and it was nice, but I've played those levels sooo many times already.

Raheem The Dream Raheem The Dream I gotta be honest man, I think supporting Risky Boots for Smash is not just pointless but probably counterproductive. It's totally cool to want her in Smash, and to think she'd make a cool fighter. I'm with you on that: Risky obviously has great moveset potential, she's a distinctive and recurring character, and she'd be the first female villain (no Wendy doesn't count). But remember that even the Sonic series only has one rep. It's a big deal to include any third party character in Smash, let alone an indie character. Two characters from a single third party franchise is unheard of. Shantae in Smash is a realistic possibility, even if the likelihood is hard to gauge. Risky Boots in Smash is not a realistic possibility. Most people don't take non-realistic character requests seriously, so if you advocate for Risky alongside Shantae, you risk people dismissing your whole message. Of course there's probably no point in campaigning now anyways, so maybe that doesn't matter, but I would keep it in mind all the same.
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Hey, don't forget about our Pirate Queen: Risky ♥♪Juicy Booty♪♥
aka ♥Risky♡Boots♥!
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Haiku: I've ★☆(BELIEVES)☆★, Risky♀Boots in SMASH & Cristina Vee will ♥marry♥ me!
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Happy 16th birthday to the original Indie darling Shantae! She first debuted 16 years ago today on the Game Boy Color!


Here's to hoping your present is a smash Invitation!
 

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Hard to believe we're just over a week from seeing what this new Smash is all about. The wait has been ridiculous. I can't believe we've learned nothing at all since that first teaser. No Directs, no credible leaks, no nothing.

Whether Shantae has a chance depends in no small part on what vision Sakurai has for this new Smash game. So far, each entry in the series has topped the previous one by having a bigger, more star-studded roster. All the big Nintendo stars are already in the game though, and even third party presence in the game has lost its shock value. What are they going to do to keep this next Smash new and surprising?

One possibility is for them to once again look for new and surprising ways to expand the roster. Indie characters, especially Shantae and Shovel Knight, would certainly fit the bill. Maybe even more than one. A flood of high profile third party characters could also do it, but they probably don't want to get too carried away with third party characters either. The game still has to feel Nintendo-focused, after all. Putting in a bunch of big fan favorites from the ballot would also be effective - this would also bode well for Shantae - but many of the popular character requests would generate less excitement outside of their fanbases.

They could also find other ways to freshen things up as well. Instead of focusing on big surprises in the roster, perhaps they add some significant new single player content, some very new game mode, or change/add to the gameplay formula in a significant way. With something like that as the hyped main feature for the new Smash, there would be less pressure for the roster they reveal to be so groundbreaking. If they go in this direction, that could portend more conservative roster selections, which would not be such good news for candidates like Shantae.





Actually, the next new Smash after this one will face a pretty serious dilemma with the roster. In Smash on the Switch, they can get away with expanding the roster by another 20 or so characters without roster size being totally outrageous, though even that will be pushing it. That would bring the roster up to ~75-80 characters though. For the next one down the road, Sakurai is going to have to abandon on one of the following three goals:
  1. Not cutting lots of veterans
  2. Adding a bunch of newcomers
  3. Keeping the roster size somewhat reasonable
It's really hard for me to imagine them abandoning any of those, but it seems clear that they will have to. What do you guys think would be the best approach?
 
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Actually, the next new Smash after this one will face a pretty serious dilemma with the roster. In Smash on the Switch, they can get away with expanding the roster by another 20 or so characters without roster size being totally outrageous, though even that will be pushing it. That would bring the roster up to ~75-80 characters though. For the next one down the road, Sakurai is going to have to abandon on one of the following three goals:
  1. Not cutting lots of veterans
  2. Adding a bunch of newcomers
  3. Keeping the roster size somewhat reasonable
It's really hard for me to imagine them abandoning any of those, but it seems clear to me they will have to. What do you guys think would be the best approach?
I think the Vet goal would probably be the first to go, Example, as popular as Fire Emblem is due to the nature of the series everyone is kinda disposable, Are Corrin, Lucina, and Robin even going to be relevant in a few years? Is Ike relevant now? How many new characters is Fire Emblem gonna churn out that could take any of their places? Is Wii Fit Trainer relevant in the switch Era?
Smash would have to follow the same pattern that all long running fighting games kinda have to do, Sit people out from time to time. Smash is always gonna have whats relevant to Nintendo in the moment, but sorta Rotate out a few vets every title.

You can't stop making newcomers because those are the hype wagons, they are what people get excited for buying smash

and having a huge roster is a nightmare for balance reasons.
 

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I think the Vet goal would probably be the first to go, Example, as popular as Fire Emblem is due to the nature of the series everyone is kinda disposable, Are Corrin, Lucina, and Robin even going to be relevant in a few years? Is Ike relevant now? How many new characters is Fire Emblem gonna churn out that could take any of their places?
I get that everyone likes to dump on Fire Emblem at times like these but with Heroes still going strong and Warriors existing, all these characters are still reasonably relevant. Hell, there are six versions of Robin in Heroes. And we haven't seen what FE Switch will do.
 
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